Manhattan vs Reeve’s Superman vs Thor vs Silver Surfer

Originally posted by Epicurus
Galactus was a planet-destroying entity in those movies, who had already destroyed countless worlds prior to the attack on Earth. Surfer still blew that shit up. In an explosion in space which dwarfed the whole of planet Earth. Not to mention the whole range of exotic powers like energy blasts, phasing, and matter manip.

😂 Being annoyed by someone isn't the same thing as being slow. The Surfer travelled at ftl speeds to reach the Earth, and was able to easily outmaneuver missiles.

I'm sure Surfer is ftl, being he traveled to Earth to prepare it for Galactus. However, the movie didn't show any of that. I was jyst arguing based on screen feats, not implied feats. We did see Galactus moving slowly past Saturn. I'm sure Torch keeping up with Surfer was just CIS/PIS, but it is all we have to go on based on screen feats.

I'm not exactly sure how how Surfer defeated Galactus. The writers were not sure either, so they left it ambiguous. In any event, Big G had a low showing there, as he was technically one shotted by Surfer...something that wouldn't happen in comics.

Originally posted by Tattoos N Scars
I'm sure Surfer is ftl, being he traveled to Earth to prepare it for Galactus. However, the movie didn't show any of that. I was jyst arguing based on screen feats, not implied feats. We did see Galactus moving slowly past Saturn. I'm sure Torch keeping up with Surfer was just CIS/PIS, but it is all we have to go on based on screen feats.

I'm not exactly sure how how Surfer defeated Galactus. The writers were not sure either, so they left it ambiguous. In any event, Big G had a low showing there, as he was technically one shotted by Surfer...something that wouldn't happen in comics.

He defeated him by supercharging and imploding his power cosmic. It was Jupiter-sized explosion. Galactus being destroyed by that level of power isn't unreasonable.

Originally posted by Epicurus
Galactus destroyed a planet in the very first scene of the movie. Lol, it wasn't an implied feat. We saw him covering interstellar distance in the blink of an eye in the same scene.

He defeated him by supercharging and imploding his power cosmic. It was Jupiter-sized explosion. Galactus being destroyed by that level of power isn't unreasonable.

I stand corrected, haven't seen that movie in forever. A planet destroying blast shouldn't harm Galactus though. He's abstract level when fed. I understand Galactus had to be stopped, but Surfer isn't powerful enough. Big G smacks Thanos around who smacks Surfer around...power differencd is too large.

Originally posted by Tattoos N Scars
I stand corrected, haven't seen that movie in forever. A planet destroying blast shouldn't harm Galactus though. He's abstract level when fed. I understand Galactus had to be stopped, but Surfer isn't powerful enough. Big G smacks Thanos around who smacks Surfer around...power differencd is too large.

Thanos isn't part of the FF movies in which Surfer and Galactus appeared.

Originally posted by Epicurus
This isn't comic book Galactus.😂 Abstract characters haven't even been introduced in any Marvel-based movie so far anyways.

Thanos isn't part of the FF movies in which Surfer and Galactus appeared.

Yeah I know. I wish the movies stayed true to the comics

Originally posted by Tattoos N Scars
She teach you how to get a girlfriend? The importance of having a job? You can't do much with the allowance your mommy gives ya!!

Originally posted by Kotor3
LOL. At least there is reasoning in it.

I believe you said this line about three times already. Great argument!

Originally posted by quanchi112
You denied him needing help to avoid the supercomputers attacks. You lied numerous times.

Quan, how bout no bashing fir a few days out of respect for Guy. That goes for both of us.

Originally posted by Tattoos N Scars
Quan, how bout no bashing fir a few days out of respect for Guy. That goes for both of us.

Manhattan almost instantly blinks them all out of existence.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You denied him needing help to avoid the supercomputers attacks. You lied numerous times.

You are starting to sound like a child. You said he needed, I say he didn't how is that a lie? So if Superman receives help he needs it?

Alright this conversation is over.

Originally posted by Arachnid1
Manhattan almost instantly blinks them all out of existence.

Or Superman uses his speed to distort time and send Manhattan to the stone age.

Or Superman sucks up Manhattan essence fly to the Sun and blows Manhattan into the Sun.

Manhattan has walked on the surface of the sun with no issue. He can also teleport and create clones

Didn't know he did that in the movie. I don't remember him doing so.

Anyway I don't see Manhattan simply wiping out any of the contenders here.

I am going with Superman on this one.

Still, I see no definite proof that Manhattan powers could destroy Superman. He has never used them on someone as powerful as Superman.

Superman probably could do two things:
Go back in time and take out Manhattan before he become Dr. Manhattan or perhaps put him in the phantom zone.

I find it hard to believe that Superman who’s body in constantly healed and replenished by the Sun and who travels through time using the speed of this own body could be disintegrated.

If Superman is made of matter, he can be vaporized by Manhattan. Since we know Superman is not comprised if exotic matter, he gets vaped easily by Manhattan.

Also, I should point out that it is literally impossible to kill Dr. Manhattan. Even if his opponents succeed in destroying his body, he can just reform it.

Dr. Manhattan is functionally a god. He doesn't belong in threads like these.

Agreed. Manhattan could matter manipulate the rest. The only one who has a possible chance of harming Manhattan is the Surfer via his suicide attack that destroyed Galactus, but that won't matter.

I keep hearing that Superman gets vaped easily. Based on? I already gave an example that proves Superman body/intrinsic field must be almost if not indestructible.

He did not use a tool, spaceship, or kryptonian technology. He used his own speed and body to create a rift in space and time. That alone should have killed him or rip his body or intrinsic field apart.

Maybe I need to read up on Manhattan more. I just can think of an example of him doing something that would have the same force of creating a rift in space and time.

Originally posted by dadudemon
If Superman is made of matter, he can be vaporized by Manhattan. Since we know Superman is not comprised if exotic matter, he gets vaped easily by Manhattan.

Also, I should point out that it is literally impossible to kill Dr. Manhattan. Even if his opponents succeed in destroying his body, he can just reform it.

Dr. Manhattan is functionally a god. He doesn't belong in threads like these.

Originally posted by Kotor3
I keep hearing that Superman gets vaped easily. Based on? I already gave an example that proves Superman body/intrinsic field must be almost if not indestructible.

He did not use a tool, spaceship, or kryptonian technology. He used his own speed and body to create a rift in space and time. That alone should have killed him or rip his body or intrinsic field apart.

Maybe I need to read up on Manhattan more. I just can think of an example of him doing something that would have the same force of creating a rift in space and time.

Molecular manipulation. If Superman's body is too durable to assplode, then Manhattan converts it to something that is less durable and then assplodes that.

If the thought of that still has you saying "nope, not Superman.", then Manhattan also has the ability to teleport Superman into the nearest super-massive black hole where if he isn't torn apart by the gravity that is so strong that not even light can escape, he'll he effectively trapped, ie win via BFR.

Another way too look at it: Superman can do nothing to harm Manhattan, who sees time (past, present and future) all at once and who can exist sans a body; as a consciousness alone. While Manhattan has options in ways to kill or dispose of Superman.