Red Viper vs. Hound

Started by Robtard30 pages
Originally posted by quanchi112
No, it hasn't. Continuing to ignore my counters isn't debating.

The fallback "no you!" retort when you know you've been defeated. You're so easy.

Originally posted by Robtard
Not countering a single point I made again. That’s not how debating works.

Originally posted by Robtard
The fallback "no you!" retort when you know you've been defeated. You're so easy.
Cutting out the part that addresses the debate is a concession. It is quite cowardly as well.

Oberyn wins.

And the expected "concession accepted" bit. We're right on schedule, predictable one.

Originally posted by Robtard
And the expected "concession accepted" bit. We're right on schedule, predictable one.
I agree. You concede right on cue every time. You are cowardly like Sandor when he sees fire.

A "no you!" followed by a "concession accepted". How lovely and totally not expected.

Oh look, quantroll is lying about people conceding again.

Originally posted by Robtard
A "no you!" followed by a "concession accepted". How lovely and totally not expected.
I already agreed you concede virtually every debate you find yourself in. One day you'll start to stand up for yourself against someone other than focus.

Originally posted by focus4chumps
You are creepy but back to the topic.

Oberyn wins.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I already agreed you concede virtually every debate you find yourself in. One day you'll start to stand up for yourself against someone other than focus.

"irony"

Originally posted by Robtard
Not that Sandor would stomp Oberyn, but Sandor's strong enough to cut through a sword and he's not nearly as lumbering as his brother. So how hard do you think connecting with and breaking a wooden spear will be for him?

A proper wooden spear is actually very hard to break, especially with a sword. A sword, even a greatsword just doesn't have the weight and balance to chop through decent wood. It might make some nicks and maybe gouge the wood, but unless Sandor is cutting at the exact same spot every time he strikes he ain't breaking that spear.

Originally posted by FrothByte
A proper wooden spear is actually very hard to break, especially with a sword. A sword, even a greatsword just doesn't have the weight and balance to chop through decent wood. It might make some nicks and maybe gouge the wood, but unless Sandor is cutting at the exact same spot every time he strikes he ain't breaking that spear.

Oberyn's spear broke in his fight with Gregor and Sandor is strong enough to cut through a sword. So not sure how you can so adamantly say "spear won't break", when it's clearly possible as shown.

Originally posted by Robtard
Oberyn's spear broke in his fight with Gregor and Sandor is strong enough to cut through a sword. So not sure how you can so adamantly say "spear won't break", when it's clearly possible as shown.

Because Sandor is not as strong as Gregor (who is described as near superhumanly strong) and if I'm not mistaken, Sandor wields a longsword and not a greatsword.

Besides, fire weakens a blades tempering, meaning a sword on fire is a lot easier to break than a sword not on fire.

Of course, if we're assuming that Oberyn's spear in this match is made of crappy wood then it's definitely breakable.

Originally posted by FrothByte
A proper wooden spear is actually very hard to break, especially with a sword. A sword, even a greatsword just doesn't have the weight and balance to chop through decent wood. It might make some nicks and maybe gouge the wood, but unless Sandor is cutting at the exact same spot every time he strikes he ain't breaking that spear.

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Originally posted by Robtard
"irony"
What debates have I conceded ?

Originally posted by FrothByte
A proper wooden spear is actually very hard to break, especially with a sword. A sword, even a greatsword just doesn't have the weight and balance to chop through decent wood. It might make some nicks and maybe gouge the wood, but unless Sandor is cutting at the exact same spot every time he strikes he ain't breaking that spear.
You make a valid point. Robbie also agreed Gregor is stronger as well so he can't say that Sandor is equal to his brother now thus further muddying the waters.

I honestly see this as another Oberyn stomp. Too quick, too skilled for the Clegane brothers.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Because Sandor is not as strong as Gregor (who is described as near superhumanly strong) and if I'm not mistaken, Sandor wields a longsword and not a greatsword.

You're insisting that to break Oberyn's spear, one must be at least as strong as Gregor. Which is silly. Considering Sandor (with a lighter longsword) single-arm-swing cut right through another sword and through armor as if it were butter.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying "Sandor will definitely break his spear", but to insist it's an impossibility as you seemingly are, is silly.

Oberyn still stomps the physically weaker brother.

Originally posted by Robtard
You're insisting that to break Oberyn's spear, one must be at least as strong as Gregor. Which is silly. Considering Sandor (with a lighter longsword) single-arm-swing cut right through another sword and through armor as if it were butter.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying "Sandor will definitely break his spear", but to insist it's an impossibility as you seemingly are, is silly.

I never said it's impossible. Just ridiculously hard and highly unlikely, especially if Oberyn is moving around and not just standing there tanking blows with his spear.