Gradiator with the ebony blade Vs. Morg with WOL

Originally posted by Galan007

Cripes, what's with all the haterade in this thread?

Originally posted by Galan007

I forgot about that first scene(CM v1 #26.) That is definitely an example of him transmuting organics.

Originally posted by Galan007

Dunno if I'd call the second set matter manipulation(in the conventional sense), though. Either way, I'm glad writers nowadays(inc. Starlin) seem to have forgotten about and/or ignore that part of his powerset. Thanos is haxxed enough as it is--he doesn't need to run around transmuting his opponents into silly putty, ffs.

The CM scene: Rick, and Marvell make a molecular exchange when jumping from the Negative Zone and vice-versa.
I'm not absolutely certain what Thanos did there, but that's the only way for Rick to become Marvell, via molecular exchange.

Ah, yes. That first scan is from CM v1 not from Secret Defenders. My bad about that.

Originally posted by Galan007
Cripes, what's with all the haterade in this thread? 😑

I forgot about that first scene(CM v1 #26.) That is definitely an example of him transmuting organics. 👆

Dunno if I'd call the second set matter manipulation(in the conventional sense), though. Either way, I'm glad writers nowadays(inc. Starlin) seem to have forgotten about and/or ignore that part of his powerset. Thanos is haxxed enough as it is--he doesn't need to run around transmuting his opponents into silly putty, ffs. 😛

Originally posted by abhilegend

Haha, hating on you? For what? Posting out of context scans?
There's the famed ego again.

Originally posted by abhilegend

The only example you provided was from Secret Defenders which is written by Ron Marz.

The Mar-vell scene is too ambiguous to call it matter manipulation since Rick and Mar-vell could change their positions from negative zone.

Nice try on the fallacy.

The Marv-vell scene is from the same issue.

"Secret Defenders?" ... Again, you're fallacious efforts are humorous.

Originally posted by abhilegend

Are you ****ing kidding me or what? BRB is duplicating the energy of Demonstaff which had transported them in the past. He said that in the very same scan. Bill was mistaken into believing he was in an alternate dimension when he was actually in past due to reality going haywire. Them being thrown around in time was due to that reality warping, not due to dimensional portals.

Demonstaff, transported them to "Elsewhen" (a world in another dimension) It was Kargul that bfr'd them to the Past:

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Next page after the scan you posted fallaciously:

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And while located in the Past, (1942) BRB manages to open a dimensional portal that leads to another point in Time (time-travel) via a Dimensional Portal:

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We know this is true, Masterson literally enters the year 2020 via the Dimensional Portal above:

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We know this is true, Masterson is pulled out the year 2020 via the Dimensional Portal created by BRB:

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Here BRB creates ANOTHER Dimensional Portal (in another Time period) to escape & return to Elsewhen:

"Bill scored. We made it back to Elsewhen"

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This, NONE of the above actually, has anything to do with "reality going haywire." ... Nice try.

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Meh, to seal this crap already. Here we have Ellene opening more Dimensional Portals via tech:

... And of course, like all the examples above, Dimensional Portals lead to other Time Periods. (time-travel)

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Originally posted by abhilegend

For ****'s sake, do you always lie this much? Demonstaff had eroded the walls of realities/timelines and that's how the Thor Corps were thrown in various timelines. Just a summarily reading of that mini can tell you that.

Kargul, sent the Thor Corps to the Past, then afterwards BRB was responsible for time traveling via Portals/Rifts.

This had nothing to do with Demonstaff or the eroding walls of realities/timelines.

(except for Bill duplicating his energy signature,
which doesn't remove the FACT that Dimensional Portals are being used to travel through Time)

Anyway, yea, yea, curse, insult, whatever. You've been owned in this discussion my son.

Originally posted by abhilegend

Hahaha, the gall of this guy! Tell me, do you honestly believe whatever crap you say?

Yeah you're done here with whatever respect I had for you. Good job.

You decided to shit in your pants, dive in and swim.

"respect?" ... Coming from you? ... Now you must be taking hits of crack if you think it means something to me.

^^^

In fact, the only time that Demonstaff endangered all reality, and was causing Alternate UniverseS to blur,

... was when he ripped into Eternity itself. (in-between Dimensions)

Do your rep a favor, and let this go now.

Originally posted by Mr Master
The CM scene: Rick, and Marvell make a molecular exchange when jumping from the Negative Zone and vice-versa.
I'm not absolutely certain what Thanos did there, but that's the only way for Rick to become Marvell, via molecular exchange.

I opened this thread and seen Mr. Masters destroying someone. Dangerous guy.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Gibberish.

Wut? ... Thanos re-arranged Skraag's atoms in Captain Marvel #26 written by Jim Starlin!

"respect?" ... Coming from you? ... Now you must be taking hits of crack if you think it means something to me.

Originally posted by Mr Master
^^^

In fact, the only time that Demonstaff endangered all reality, and was causing Alternate UniverseS to blur,

... was when he ripped into Eternity itself. (in-between Dimensions)

Do your rep a favor, and let this go now.

Kargul said the same thing that he was weakening the dimensional walls and timelines by just using his staff.

Anyway, I've said all I've wanted. Adios grampa.

Originally posted by Stoic
No he wouldn't get the chance. All Heralds of Galactus are able to fly at greater than light speeds through asteroid fields without hitting one of them. He would catch Gladiators arm, and rip his face off. Morg with the Power Cosmic, and Waters of life, was able to, and would have killed all of Galactus' Heralds if not for plot. Gladiator would have been railroaded by that group. Just remember, Gladiator wouldn't be facing a landlocked opponent here, but one that could fly just as fast as he is, and has cosmic awareness.

Travel speed doesn't equate to combat speed in general. Movement of traveling isn't movement of limbs and torso. Plus it takes time to accelerate to light speed for Morg (he doesn't reach it near instantaneously). As far as reflexes, space is pretty big. There are more than planetary distances between asteroids. Traveling at light speed and avoiding the sun only takes 8 min reflexes (not even 1 sec reflexes).

Strike that. The average distance between asteroids are over 2 AU (1AU = distance from Earth to Sun).

Originally posted by abhilegend

I accepted that I made an error just one post before..
Errors like that happen. Not all of us have written down essays to copy/paste.
Suuuuuure.

Originally posted by abhilegend

I never said Demonstaff did that. It was due to reality being tempered that threw them to different timelines and their futures.

I can't believe after I posted unquestionable proof, you dare return with straight up lies.

Originally posted by abhilegend

Haha, no. That portal led to Elsewhen due to BRB duplicating the energy of Kargul which was temporal BFR.

I just posted the scans for all to see right above.

Anyone is free to check out "Thor Corps #1-4.

Originally posted by abhilegend

He entered the future of an alternate timeline. That's stated in black and white in the very same scan FFS.
Wow, portals work both ways! Who knew that?
Again, he was duplicating the same energy he was duplicating earlier.

Actually it does. The portal was throwing them adrift in timestream because of that.

Originally posted by abhilegend

That was due to Elsewhen being the void between time and space and the fracture in reality was making the distinction between time/space blurred.

Those scans are from the middle of book #3, when my scene takes place at the end of book #2. 😆

These over-sized scans have absolutely NOTHING to do with Ellene using Elsewhen tech
to open Dimensional Portals to send them into separate Time Periods.

Originally posted by abhilegend

Kargul said the same thing that he was weakening the dimensional walls and timelines by just using his staff.

I guess you figured if you post HUGE scans from different parts of the story to fit your fallacy you'd get away with it.

Anyway, What Kargul is saying there, and what BRB said above, has NOTHING to do with Kargul bfring them to the Past,
has NOTHING to do with BRB creating Dimensional Portals to enter different Time periods,
and it had NOTHING to do with Ellene using tech to open DImensional Portals to send them to separate individual Time periods.

Again, it wasn't until past the middle of book #3, that universeS were actually blurring,
due to Demonstaff going bananas in-between Dimensions breaking up Eternity.

.... "Thor Corps" #1-4 ...

Originally posted by abhilegend

You sound like Jellyrobes. Never a good sign.
Way to miss the forest for trees.
You can't read well, I presume.
Not by any chance grampa.
And like I said you're too predictable for your own good.
Heh, you even insults like a granny.
Obviously it doesn't. Grampa.

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Originally posted by carver9

I opened this thread and seen Mr. Masters destroying someone. Dangerous guy.

That dude is a piece of dirt to me, he's literally lying after I corrected him with the scans.

He's using over-sized scans and lying about the context and how it fits with the story-line.

That's really pissing me off, so blatant. I reported him for trolling.

"Thor Corps" #1-4

Originally posted by h1a8
Travel speed doesn't equate to combat speed in general. Movement of traveling isn't movement of limbs and torso. Plus it takes time to accelerate to light speed for Morg (he doesn't reach it near instantaneously). As far as reflexes, space is pretty big. There are more than planetary distances between asteroids. Traveling at light speed and avoiding the sun only takes 8 min reflexes (not even 1 sec reflexes).

Strike that. The average distance between asteroids are over 2 AU (1AU = distance from Earth to Sun).

I'm now convinced that you were dropped on your head several times.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Gibberish.

100% bullshit! .. again.

I can't believe after I posted unquestionable proof, you dare return with straight up lies.

False, yet again.

I just posted the scans for all to see right above.

Anyone is free to check out "Thor Corps #1-4.

You're not saying anything here, only deflecting with a lie at the end.

Wut the hell are you lying about son?

Those scans are from the middle of book #3, when my scene takes place at the end of book #2. 😆

These over-sized scans have absolutely NOTHING to do with Ellene using Elsewhen tech
[b]to open Dimensional Portals to send them into separate Time Periods.

And the lies continue, it's just unbelievable.

I guess you figured if you post HUGE scans from different parts of the story to fit your fallacy you'd get away with it.

Anyway, What Kargul is saying there, and what BRB said above, has NOTHING to do with Kargul bfring them to the Past,
has NOTHING to do with BRB creating Dimensional Portals to enter different Time periods,
and it had NOTHING to do with Ellene using tech to open DImensional Portals to send them to separate individual Time periods.

Again, it wasn't until past the middle of book #3, that universeS were actually blurring,
due to Demonstaff going bananas in-between Dimensions breaking up Eternity.

.... "Thor Corps" #1-4 ...

Just more deflection cloaked in what you believe to be belittling humor.

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👆 ... and with pleasure I might add.

That dude is a piece of dirt to me, he's literally lying after I corrected him with the scans.

He's using over-sized scans and lying about the context and how it fits with the story-line.

That's really pissing me off, so blatant. I reported him for trolling.

"Thor Corps" #1-4 [/B]

This is all great and good. I am so happy that you nailed all of the finer details down, but most of the things mentioned have nothing to do with the main topic. If i was wrong about Thanos, that's fine. I'm sure you can understand how people could be confused since the writing was full of shit in that book, and looking at it closer, anyone could draw whatever conclusions that they imagined from it. Now perhaps we can get back to the actual thread.

Morg rips his face off.

Originally posted by carver9
I already agreed with you in thus thread...He didn't tank it.

😂

Yuh-huh...

Originally posted by -Pr-
😂

Yuh-huh...

And yet he continued saying that he did in this very thread. Very curious to say the least.

abhi vs masters??? how has this not happened before??? 😂 anywho, eb has been getting loads of luv lately it seems. regardless, morg obliterates him.

Originally posted by Stoic
And yet he continued saying that he did in this very thread. Very curious to say the least.

Do you not give up? I destroyed you in this thread...completely annihilated you and no one agreed with anything you said. I think you are cool Stoic and I would prefer if we dropped this argument. I think your pride is destroyed which is the reason you keep coming back with petty arguments. Move on.

How did you destroy me? yeah that's right, you didn't. You actually hid by only posting a scan to strengthen your flimsy argument, but refused to post the Surfer grabbing the Rhino's horn, and leaving out the context behing the Surfer never taking him seriously in the first place until he finally shows him how small he really was.

You misrepresented Gladiator tanking half a solar system destroying blast, and even admitted that you did, but continued to bring it up in this thread.

You never once considered the fact that Morg would be able to obliterate Gladiator before he got close, and that it is within his powers to do so.

Gladiator was stated as doing many things but then gets busted by Gambit's deck of cards, which completely undermines him tanking forces that would make the deck of cards feat look miniscule by comparison.

What happened with Thanos could have easily been seen in a different light, which was proven over the last several pages when everyone involved had to place the scene under a microscope, and they still may not have gotten it completely straight, because the events that came after it made no sense at all.

This does not remove the fact that you are wrong, and Gladiator will not win. You even attempted to place Gladiator close to Morg in power, when Gladiator would have trouble against the least of Galactus' Heralds, but you keep coming back for more.

The Ebony Blade would only be an extension of Gladiator arm, and even if he got in close enough to hit Morg with it Morg has his own weapon that he could parry with.

Morg is an experienced warrior with swords and axes, while Gladiator has yet to be seen using one. For all we know Gladiator may be inexperienced using a sword, there is no proof to show that he is an expert after all. Do you know of any time that gladiator used a sword in combat?

Morg also has more raw power than Gladiator to the point of a no contest. So again How does Gladiator win? I proved that all of the Heralds created ny Galactus were granted Cosmic Awareness, and they use it to locate planets. You on the other hand chose the slimy route, and asked what my proof of this was, while knowing full well that they all possess it. So no you didn't destroy anything.

Morg wins.

Originally posted by leonidas
abhi vs masters??? how has this not happened before??? 😂 anywho, eb has been getting loads of luv lately it seems. regardless, morg obliterates him.

Originally posted by leonidas
abhi vs masters??? how has this not happened before??? 😂 anywho, eb has been getting loads of luv lately it seems. regardless, morg obliterates him.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Gibberish.

These over-sized scans have absolutely NOTHING to do with Ellene using Elsewhen tech
[b]to open Dimensional Portals to send them into separate Time Periods.

And the lies continue, it's just unbelievable.

I guess you figured if you post HUGE scans from different parts of the story to fit your fallacy you'd get away with it.

Anyway, What Kargul is saying there, and what BRB said above, has NOTHING to do with Kargul bfring them to the Past,
has NOTHING to do with BRB creating Dimensional Portals to enter different Time periods,
and it had NOTHING to do with Ellene using tech to open DImensional Portals to send them to separate individual Time periods.

Again, it wasn't until past the middle of book #3, that universeS were actually blurring,
due to Demonstaff going bananas in-between Dimensions breaking up Eternity.

Just more deflection cloaked in what you believe to be belittling humor.

Anyway, that's a lot of deflection just to cover up the fact that Thanos was using all the gems.

👆

Originally posted by Stoic
How did you destroy me? yeah that's right, you didn't. You actually hid by only posting a scan to strengthen your flimsy argument, but refused to post the Surfer grabbing the Rhino's horn, and leaving out the context behing the Surfer never taking him seriously in the first place until he finally shows him how small he really was.

You misrepresented Gladiator tanking half a solar system destroying blast, and even admitted that you did, but continued to bring it up in this thread.

You never once considered the fact that Morg would be able to obliterate Gladiator before he got close, and that it is within his powers to do so.

Gladiator was stated as doing many things but then gets busted by Gambit's deck of cards, which completely undermines him tanking forces that would make the deck of cards feat look miniscule by comparison.

What happened with Thanos could have easily been seen in a different light, which was proven over the last several pages when everyone involved had to place the scene under a microscope, and they still may not have gotten it completely straight, because the events that came after it made no sense at all.

This does not remove the fact that you are wrong, and Gladiator will not win. You even attempted to place Gladiator close to Morg in power, when Gladiator would have trouble against the least of Galactus' Heralds, but you keep coming back for more.

The Ebony Blade would only be an extension of Gladiator arm, and even if he got in close enough to hit Morg with it Morg has his own weapon that he could parry with.

Morg is an experienced warrior with swords and axes, while Gladiator has yet to be seen using one. For all we know Gladiator may be inexperienced using a sword, there is no proof to show that he is an expert after all. Do you know of any time that gladiator used a sword in combat?

Morg also has more raw power than Gladiator to the point of a no contest. So again How does Gladiator win? I proved that all of the Heralds created ny Galactus were granted Cosmic Awareness, and they use it to locate planets. You on the other hand chose the slimy route, and asked what my proof of this was, while knowing full well that they all possess it. So no you didn't destroy anything.

Morg wins.

Gladiator getting FATIGUED from a solar system wrecking blast is nothing. Right after being hit by the blast he defeats the fantastic four. You brought up Morg destroying a planet, trying to use it as a reference of Morg raking out Gladiator and I proved you wrong by posting Gladiator withstanding something FAR greater than planet busting.

You said that Surfer stopped Rhino bullrush. I posted a scan showing the opposite. Just stop. I don't need to post anything after that...again, I proved your silly claim wrong.

What are you talking about? In this same thread I said that Morg would win a 10/10 if Gladiator didn't have the blade. How about this...I proved your claims wrong and people even came in here to join me in proving your statements as being false. I am not responding to anymore of your gibberish. Move on. We are done. As for the thread...Gladiator wins with the blade.

Originally posted by carver9
Gladiator getting FATIGUED from a solar system wrecking blast is nothing. Right after being hit by the blast he defeats the fantastic four. You brought up Morg destroying a planet, trying to use it as a reference of Morg raking out Gladiator and I proved you wrong by posting Gladiator withstanding something FAR greater than planet busting.

You said that Surfer stopped Rhino bullrush. I posted a scan showing the opposite. Just stop. I don't need to post anything after that...again, I proved your silly claim wrong.

What are you talking about? In this same thread I said that Morg would win a 10/10 if Gladiator didn't have the blade. How about this...I proved your claims wrong and people even came in here to join me in proving your statements as being false. I am not responding to anymore of your gibberish. Move on. We are done. As for the thread...Gladiator wins with the blade.

That's the problem. You posted the scan that you wanted to post, and like usual left out the context by failing to post the scans and dialog before, and after ( http://landsharkattacks.blogspot.com/2012/09/retro-review-silver-surfer-vol-3-54.html ). This is you being deceitful (big surprise). Tell me who backed your claim on Gladiator winning? Who backed your claims that Morg did not possess Cosmic Awareness? You think that Gladiator beating on the FF is a good feat, then you must think that Morg nearly killing all of the Heralds of Galactus was awesome.

Of course you didn't understand what I said about Morg casually blowing the planet up with an omni blast because you have trouble differentiating power levels. It's one thing to throw punch after punch and destroying a tiny planet, and another thing to flex, and destroy a large one. You didn't bother to address the idea that Morg could launch a similar attack on Gladiator before he reached him.

You didn't address the idea that Gladiator has never been seen by me using a sword, and he automatically would beat a seasoned swordsmen/axeman of a power house like Morg.

You try your best to hide behind people who have yet to get it together concerning subject outside of this thread to somehow make yourself believe that you are right, but you aren't/

You misrepresent shit, and then say that you didn't only to continuously do so again. This isn't wrestling where you get you strength from the crowds Carver. You're wrong, now face it, and concede, because there is no way that Gladiator wins this.

The Sword is only an extension of his arm, and there is no proof that he would not lose the sword battling a proven swordsman carrying a cosmic axe.

Morg wins without a doubt, and he does so easily.