Originally posted by Robtard
Adjusting for inflation since movie tickets were far cheaper in the 70's and 80's, the Star Wars franchise has made more than the Harry Potter franchise.This was argued in here before, numbers where crunched. SW was ahead, but not by a lot, relatively.
Star Wars 27,000,000,000
http://www.statisticbrain.com/star-wars-total-franchise-revenue/
Harry Potter 24,751,000,000
http://www.statisticbrain.com/total-harry-potter-franchise-revenue/
IOW, Star Wars wins.
Originally posted by quanchi112
The ability was not created for emptier strrikes back so trying to retroactively apply the ability without proof and realizing you can't pretend it was invented at that point in time. Boom. Case closed.Post the clip then or reference the time in the films. I have them all.
How would the force beat Q ? Based on what ?
I don't debate that shit because I don't give a shit. It's a fan fiction for the most part. I debate things I am familiar with unlike yourself, troll. I went into Star Wars versus a few years ago and not one of them had the nuts to take Khan on. It was glorious.
Again who are you to say it wasn't created? You are just someone who hates the guy who made Star Wars and you sir are stupid. If tutaminis was used than it was used. It's appearances say it appeared in the Empire strikes back and you can't argue with what is right in front of you. Case closed. It says it was used in Empire strikes back meaning that it was first seen then as to use in episodes 2 and 3. Provide proof that it wasn't invented when I have proof that clearly states that it was.
Soresu was his style. Why do you need clips or anything from the movie when everyone here clearly knows that he used soresu. He was originally a master of Ataru but then switched to soresu. He is great a blast deflection and has kept up high intensity lightsaber duels and defended greatly. Also the rules say only movie feats count here. That doesn't mean things that are painfully obvious don't count such as this. His style is soresu just like Yodas is Ataru and windus is Vaapad and Anakins is Djem So. Deal with it
The force in its true form is devastatingly powerful much like Q. While Q is powerful, like the force he isn't completely omnipresent, omnipotent, or omniscient. The force has a wide variety of powers much like Q so if there is a winner between the Two it isn't a stomp. It would be close.
Well then go into Star Wars versus forum where legends, cannon, everything is up for grabs. So that means you are not familiar with Star Wars and the force so thus you have no way of saying at the force is weak as you have only seen the movie interpretation and not its full capability. Considering the rules for Star Wars Versus forum is to keep it strictly Star Wars character vs Star Wars character that is why. However really almost any character form legends or Cannon Star Wars destroys khan as seen by how badly I beat you in Yoda vs Khan and Sidious vs Khan. With that Obi wan could beat Khan, Anakin, vader, Jango, maul, and many many others.
Aren't there several different list of showing which is wealthier. Some show Harry Potter to be greater in fact the ones I've researched which have been various and numerous have all said Harry Potter beats Star Wars and some even say it beats the Marvel Cinematic Universe. So really based on what I've seen Harry Potter has beaten Star Wars however whichever is true both are fantastic and it's very close. Star Wars is most likely to come put on top as it has more films well on the way, however so to does the Harry Potter universe. There is still more room for Ms Rowling to go. I can think of a pretty good idea.
Originally posted by EmperorSidious2Post proof it was used in the scene you claimed it was used in. I don't hate star wars. That's a myth. I just have never loved it but that match change with Abrams.
Again who are you to say it wasn't created? You are just someone who hates the guy who made Star Wars and you sir are stupid. If tutaminis was used than it was used. It's appearances say it appeared in the Empire strikes back and you can't argue with what is right in front of you. Case closed. It says it was used in Empire strikes back meaning that it was first seen then as to use in episodes 2 and 3. Provide proof that it wasn't invented when I have proof that clearly states that it was.Soresu was his style. Why do you need clips or anything from the movie when everyone here clearly knows that he used soresu. He was originally a master of Ataru but then switched to soresu. He is great a blast deflection and has kept up high intensity lightsaber duels and defended greatly. Also the rules say only movie feats count here. That doesn't mean things that are painfully obvious don't count such as this. His style is soresu just like Yodas is Ataru and windus is Vaapad and Anakins is Djem So. Deal with it
The force in its true form is devastatingly powerful much like Q. While Q is powerful, like the force he isn't completely omnipresent, omnipotent, or omniscient. The force has a wide variety of powers much like Q so if there is a winner between the Two it isn't a stomp. It would be close.
Well then go into Star Wars versus forum where legends, cannon, everything is up for grabs. So that means you are I
U familiar with Star Wars and the force so thus you have no way of saying at the force is weak as you have only seen the movie interpretation and not its full capability. Considering the rules for Star Wars Versus forum is to keep it strictly Star Wars character vs Star Wars character that is why. However really almost any character form legends or Cannon Star Wars destroys khan as seen by how badly I beat you in Yoda vs Khan and Sidious vs Khan. With that Obi wan could beat Khan, Anakin, vader, Jango, maul, and many many others.
Provide proof of your claims with the styles used. Quit just making baseless claims.
Based on what feats of the force ? Back your claims.
I go by what's in continuity not fan fiction. You're an over zealous fan who debates against characters you know next to nothing about.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Post proof it was used in the scene you claimed it was used in. I don't hate star wars. That's a myth. I just have never loved it but that match change with Abrams.Provide proof of your claims with the styles used. Quit just making baseless claims.
Based on what feats of the force ? Back your claims.
Just watch the movie, or read the novelization.
Why would he need to post proof of a particular lightsaber style? That is redundant.
I've already demolished this point, so no need for you to go over it, stop riding my coattails.
Originally posted by Darkstorm ZeroMovie feats only. We aren't bringing in the novels here.
Just watch the movie, or read the novelization.Why would he need to post proof of a particular lightsaber style? That is redundant.
I've already demolished this point, so no need for you to go over it, stop riding my coattails.
You're the same guy who thing hit original Khan possessed skill and showed experience in combat. Watch Space seed little guy and get back to me. You are avoiding that topic because I kinda posted evidence humiliating you.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Movie feats only. We aren't bringing in the novels here.
Dodge #1
Originally posted by quanchi112
You're the same guy who thing hit original Khan possessed skill and showed experience in combat. Watch Space seed little guy and get back to me. You are avoiding that topic because I kinda posted evidence humiliating you.
Dodge #2
You didn't answer a damn thing.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Post proof it was used in the scene you claimed it was used in. I don't hate star wars. That's a myth. I just have never loved it but that match change with Abrams.Provide proof of your claims with the styles used. Quit just making baseless claims.
Based on what feats of the force ? Back your claims.
I go by what's in continuity not fan fiction. You're an over zealous fan who debates against characters you know next to nothing about.
I've given you proof. It's appearances show it to be in Empire strikes back and it's stated that Darth Vader used it when Han Solo attempted to shoot him. So what more proof do you need.
Shi cho-Fisto. He was able to defend against Sidous for at least longer than Kolar and Tinn due to the defensive nature of Shi cho.
Makashi- Dooku. He is very premised an minimalistic in his move sets. He uses this in all of his fights as seen in the movies and the clone wars.
Soresu- Obi wan. Grevious vs Obi Wan. Isn't it said Grevious was moving with 18-20 strikes per second. Obi was able to block that. Also Anakin vs Obi Wan. He was able to preserve enough stamina to fight against Anakin for a long time and was able to block his lightsaber strikes.
Ataru- Yoda. Yoda vs Dooku. Yoda used twirls and spins and different acrobatics. This is a core sign of an Ataru master. Also Yoda vs Sidious as seen how he jumped basically over Sidous all day everyday.
Djem So-Anakin. Anakin in all his duels. Power attacks. Brute force which would show why he just bashes at his enemy without any control.
Niman- Sidoous and Obi wan as they are very proficient with Jar Kai which is a core element of the Niman form. Also Sidious and many other beings are able to encorporate for based attacks into their lightsaber sequences with ease and make them effective.
Juyo-Maul. Basically aggressive uncontrolled strikes. See in his duels with quigon and Obi wan as how he went in the fight with little precision and basically just tried to bulldoze his enemy.
Vaapad-Windu. I honestly don't need to explain this one.
I refer you to look up Force Powers in its wookipedia and look at Ll of the force powers in legends as it shows the most powerful force powers.
Well I don't need to know anything about Khan who can't handle the force with his simple little guns and that's it. No jet pack or any other weaponry of Jango or Pre Vizla. Once. It was with Khna however I know everyone else. Get your facts straight kid.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Novels aren't fair game here. Movie feats only. Quit attempting to break the rules.
You intentionally ignore the first part of it, and snipe the 2nd. And novelizations don't break the rules kiddo. The novelizations of the movies go out of their way to explain stuff IN THE MOVIES.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Quit trolling as well.
That's not trolling, that's me explaining your actions in a consistent and logical manner. You failed to answer 2 points by attempting to dodge and rules lawyering.
Originally posted by EmperorSidious2Then post proof. You're saying it. Post something that proves it. Do you know what that means ?
I've given you proof. It's appearances show it to be in Empire strikes back and it's stated that Darth Vader used it when Han Solo attempted to shoot him. So what more proof do you need.Shi cho-Fisto. He was able to defend against Sidous for at least longer than Kolar and Tinn due to the defensive nature of Shi cho.
Makashi- Dooku. He is very premised an minimalistic in his move sets. He uses this in all of his fights as seen in the movies and the clone wars.
Soresu- Obi wan. Grevious vs Obi Wan. Isn't it said Grevious was moving with 18-20 strikes per second. Obi was able to block that. Also Anakin vs Obi Wan. He was able to preserve enough stamina to fight against Anakin for a long time and was able to block his lightsaber strikes.
Ataru- Yoda. Yoda vs Dooku. Yoda used twirls and spins and different acrobatics. This is a core sign of an Ataru master. Also Yoda vs Sidious as seen how he jumped basically over Sidous all day everyday.
Djem So-Anakin. Anakin in all his duels. Power attacks. Brute force which would show why he just bashes at his enemy without any control.
Niman- Sidoous and Obi wan as they are very proficient with Jar Kai which is a core element of the Niman form. Also Sidious and many other beings are able to encorporate for based attacks into their lightsaber sequences with ease and make them effective.
Juyo-Maul. Basically aggressive uncontrolled strikes. See in his duels with quigon and Obi wan as how he went in the fight with little precision and basically just tried to bulldoze his enemy.
Vaapad-Windu. I honestly don't need to explain this one.I refer you to look up Force Powers in its wookipedia and look at Ll of the force powers in legends as it shows the most powerful force powers.
Well I don't need to know anything about Khan who can't handle the force with his simple little guns and that's it. No jet pack or any other weaponry of Jango or Pre Vizla. Once. It was with Khna however I know everyone else. Get your facts straight kid.
Post film evidence of this. Or clone wars series evidence will do.
If you can't prove it movie or series wise then it isn't proof.
You do need to know about your opponent. Any jackass who says they don't need to know jackshit is a biased neanderthal.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Then post proof. You're saying it. Post something that proves it. Do you know what that means ?Post film evidence of this. Or clone wars series evidence will do.
If you can't prove it movie or series wise then it isn't proof.
You do need to know about your opponent. Any jackass who says they don't need to know jackshit is a biased neanderthal.
I'm saying what I would post. Do you know what that means. You can't talk. All you do is just rant on without any real proof. That's all you do. You never did in any of the threads. You just say whatever an expect people to see it your way.
Those are Movie feats and clone wars feats.
Oh no. You asked for the force in general. I told you Q will have a run for his money with the force at full power. So take it or leave it but until you see all of its power in its fullest form shut up.
Just like you. You don't know much about the force apparently and yet still have the nerve to say the force is weak. I know about Khan and what you have said. You haven't said anything. Worth anyone's time. All Sidious has to do is force choke him. All yoda has to do is ragdoll him. What does khan have on that.
Originally posted by EmperorSidious2I back my claims with links and time stamps asserting my claims are verified. Now if you can't post the proof then it's baseless. 🙂
I'm saying what I would post. Do you know what that means. You can't talk. All you do is just rant on without any real proof. That's all you do. You never did in any of the threads. You just say whatever an expect people to see it your way.Those are Movie feats and clone wars feats.
Oh no. You asked for the force in general. I told you Q will have a run for his money with the force at full power. So take it or leave it but until you see all of its power in its fullest form shut up.
Just like you. You don't know much about the force apparently and yet still have the nerve to say the force is weak. I know about Khan and what you have said. You haven't said anything. Worth anyone's time. All Sidious has to do is force choke him. All yoda has to do is ragdoll him. What does khan have on that.
Yes, I know. They are canon.
So you have no feats thus concede the debate. Thought so
I understand the force, it's applications, what's canon, and what isn't. You don't. I am smarter than you.
Based on which feats ? The ones where the guards had time to fire ?
😂
Originally posted by quanchi112
I back my claims with links and time stamps asserting my claims are verified. Now if you can't post the proof then it's baseless. 🙂Yes, I know. They are canon.
So you have no feats thus concede the debate. Thought so
I understand the force, it's applications, what's canon, and what isn't. You don't. I am smarter than you.
Based on which feats ? The ones where the guards had time to fire ?
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Look up tutaminis and go to appearances and there you will see Empire Strikes back and also it says Darth Vader used it.
Good so you concede Obi WANs use of soresu.
Oh I have feats you just have to be a man and take them. Can you do that if so we should be good.
Apparently not. You only know of the movies and not the force and all of its applications. Again research force power and look through its powers.
Yea didn't they have the early advantage as they saw Sidious ship landing and he had to walk down to the platform and then when they said haunt they were disarmed and then choked. 😂
Great example.
Originally posted by EmperorSidious2On a wiki site ? Are you serious ? That isn't official at all and can be edited.
Look up tutaminis and go to appearances and there you will see Empire Strikes back and also it says Darth Vader used it.Good so you concede Obi WANs use of soresu.
Oh I have feats you just have to be a man and take them. Can you do that if so we should be good.
Apparently not. You only know of the movies and not the force and all of its applications. Again research force power and look through its powers.
Yea didn't they have the early advantage as they saw Sidious ship landing and he had to walk down to the platform and then when they said haunt they were disarmed and then choked. 😂
Great example.
You are making baseless claims until you prove it by citing canonicity.
What feats then ?
They had time to shoot so he didn't get the drop on them. They didn't fire. They had seconds to fire. 😂
It destroys your case since palpatine didn't react before they could aim and fire they just chose not to.
Originally posted by quanchi112
On a wiki site ? Are you serious ? That isn't official at all and can be edited.You are making baseless claims until you prove it by citing canonicity.
What feats then ?
They had time to shoot so he didn't get the drop on them. They didn't fire. They had seconds to fire. 😂
It destroys your case since palpatine didn't react before they could aim and fire they just chose not to.
The moderator of this forum has said Wikipedia is going to be a good source to use and why would anyone change it for this purpose when in the grand scheme of things is unimportant. So yes it can still be used.
They are from the movie and we have seen them so again how are they baseless.
Oh where do I begin. You have powers such as force storm, force drain, lightning, choke, push, onenes, flight, tutaminis, healing factors, different variations of lightning and telekenisis, force cloak, force stun, battlemeditaion,force augmentation, Malaysia, force illusions, force blast, different SITH artifacts and nexus' have also amplified force powers, SITH Magic, SITH alchemy, etc. these are just a few powers I agaisn tell you to research force powers so you can get more powers.
Maybe two at max and they had the advantage as Sidoous was just getting off the ship and they had time to already aim at him and saw his ship.
Not really as in this instance Khan doesn't have the preparation they did so really Khan is going down.
Originally posted by EmperorSidious2If you can't back it without official word, the films, or the clients wars it isn't evidence. Some wiki stuff can be verified via film.
The moderator of this forum has said Wikipedia is going to be a good source to use and why would anyone change it for this purpose when in the grand scheme of things is unimportant. So yes it can still be used.They are from the movie and we have seen them so again how are they baseless.
Oh where do I begin. You have powers such as force storm, force drain, lightning, choke, push, onenes, flight, tutaminis, healing factors, different variations of lightning and telekenisis, force cloak, force stun, battlemeditaion,force augmentation, Malaysia, force illusions, force blast, different SITH artifacts and nexus' have also amplified force powers, SITH Magic, SITH alchemy, etc. these are just a few powers I agaisn tell you to research force powers so you can get more powers.
Maybe two at max and they had the advantage as Sidoous was just getting off the ship and they had time to already aim at him and saw his ship.
Not really as in this instance Khan doesn't have the preparation they did so really Khan is going down.
Sidious slowly walked up and it took seconds the mandalorians to fire. They did not. Khan wins based off this feat.
He doesn't need preparation he just needs to fire.