Star Trek vs. Star Wars

Originally posted by quanchi112
He was the one who told anakin about him being the Sith Lord. He knew they'd come but didn't know the details nor is any of this covered in the film. It's all just sidious apologists.

Nothing what you have stated is anything other than pure conjecture. You are just a fanboy who makes things up and pretends they are facts. Sad.

Thanks for ignoring the first paragraph. This shows you concede.

What do you mean he didn't know the details. He didn't know which Jedi were coming? He sure knew that Jedi were coming and he knew speciffacly that Padme was endanger or something was wrong with her as he told Anakin I can help you achieve the power to save Padme. Still what do you mean by specifics. He knew Jedi would come namingly he possibly didn't know who the specific Jedi were but if I had to say he most likely windu would be there due to yoda being off the planet and windu being the second best.

Oh it's a shame how when all of what I've stated shows that he actually had reason to throw the fight, there was a plot leading up to him throwing the fight, and he had already tested Anakin, gotten rid of Dooku, faked weakness against windu I mean he threw the fight IMO. Yes you are very sad as all you say is it's only speculation and not actually prove that. So really until you disprove it you can't say it's speculation as all I said in that paragraph was fact and based off the movies and one was based off the novel. So conjecture? I don't think so.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Thanks for ignoring the first paragraph. This shows you concede.

What do you mean he didn't know the details. He didn't know which Jedi were coming? He sure knew that Jedi were coming and he knew speciffacly that Padme was endanger or something was wrong with her as he told Anakin I can help you achieve the power to save Padme. Still what do you mean by specifics. He knew Jedi would come namingly he possibly didn't know who the specific Jedi were but if I had to say he most likely windu would be there due to yoda being off the planet and windu being the second best.

Oh it's a shame how when all of what I've stated shows that he actually had reason to throw the fight, there was a plot leading up to him throwing the fight, and he had already tested Anakin, gotten rid of Dooku, faked weakness against windu I mean he threw the fight IMO. Yes you are very sad as all you say is it's only speculation and not actually prove that. So really until you disprove it you can't say it's speculation as all I said in that paragraph was fact and based off the movies and one was based off the novel. So conjecture? I don't think so.

Originally posted by quanchi112
It was all unsupported nonsense. You normally post very little to no evidence so it's easy to just nap through your responses. At no point in the movie did he ever allude to throwing the fight so speculate all you want while I giggle at your desperation.

Well it had movie evidence so with that you can't really call it unsupported. And what do you do? All you do ever is just say it happens. For instance the special features junk you used in Voldemort vs Dumbleodre if I would have mever watched the special features I could have just called BS on it as you couldn't post a clip or any real piece of evidence or infer anything correct. Well with that you can't counter it so really I win as you can't rebuts what I say. It's that simple to understand. Actually there are points in the film where he alludes to throwing the fight. Yes giggle like teenage school girl. 😂

That's why Mr Gold curbstomps Khan in the Mr gold vs Khan thread I have up.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Well it had movie evidence so with that you can't really call it unsupported. And what do you do? All you do ever is just say it happens. For instance the special features junk you used in Voldemort vs Dumbleodre if I would have mever watched the special features I could have just called BS on it as you couldn't post a clip or any real piece of evidence or infer anything correct. Well with that you can't counter it so really I win as you can't rebuts what I say. It's that simple to understand. Actually there are points in the film where he alludes to throwing the fight. Yes giggle like teenage school girl. 😂

That's why Mr Gold curbstomps Khan in the Mr gold vs Khan thread I have up.

You have no proof and it isn't relevant to the thread. Trek wins.

🙂

Originally posted by quanchi112
Novels are not the movie. You saw it this verifying my claim.

You have no proof and it isn't relevant to the thread. Trek wins.

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Oh excuse me. It had movie and novel evidence. So with that you can't disprove what I say so thus you can't disprove Sidious didn't throw the fight.

Well all Mr Gold has to,do,is wave his hand and Khans weapons or him is turned into something else. Also Mr Gold has TK, Pyrokenisis, teleportation, and many other powers.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Oh excuse me. It had movie and novel evidence. So with that you can't disprove what I say so thus you can't disprove Sidious didn't throw the fight.

Well all Mr Gold has to,do,is wave his hand and Khans weapons or him is turned into something else. Also Mr Gold has TK, Pyrokenisis, teleportation, and many other powers.

Mr gold isn't in this thread you fool. Trek wins.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Movie only. You need to prove your claim. That's how debating works.

Mr gold isn't in this thread you fool. Trek wins.

Actually this specific debate isn't under the jurisdiction of movies only as this is not a thread and really is apart of one of the Star Wars forums. Yes you need to prove it but you also have to attempt to disprove it. I've put forth evidence on a topic and now it your job to attempt to prove me wrong. You can't just say it's speculation and expect them to believe you. You have to prove why it's speculation.

Either way he still beats the pants off of anything Trek has.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Actually this specific debate isn't under the jurisdiction of movies only as this is not a thread and really is apart of one of the Star Wars forums. Yes you need to prove it but you also have to attempt to disprove it. I've put forth evidence on a topic and now it your job to attempt to prove me wrong. You can't just say it's speculation and expect them to believe you. You have to prove why it's speculation.

Either way he still beats the pants off of anything Trek has.

You've speculated on a theory you have not proven. You have no idea how things work.

Nah, Trek wins. Superior.

Originally posted by quanchi112
The opening post makes it clear its the movies only. You're a troll. It's also in the movie versus not the eu section of the board.

You've speculated on a theory you have not proven. You have no idea how things work.

Nah, Trek wins. Superior.

For particular threads. This debate that we have with Sidious vs windu is not a thread but a debate that pertains to Star Wars character vs Star Wars character which is in Star Wars versus forum or for this particular topic the expanded universe or Star Wars episodes I II III. Learn the ways Quan.

I've given you the proof of this so called theory and all you do is say it's a theory. You don't say why, or give actual evidence or anything to say why it's a theory. This is why you will never and can never defeat me because you don't back up your claims you just make random claims and expect everyone to go with them, you need actual proof that you can post online, also you need to start saying why things are speculation and providing evidence of why it is,instead of just saying its speculation. If you go into a courtroom and say that's wrong and not say why the jury and the judge are going to look at you and think this guy doesn't know what he's doing.

Well the fact that this is magic and doesn't need a wand it can just basically do whatever, any character there the can turn into whatever they want, burn whatever they want, freeze whatever they want and so much more.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
For particular threads. This debate that we have with Sidious vs windu is not a thread but a debate that pertains to Star Wars character vs Star Wars character which is in Star Wars versus forum or for this particular topic the expanded universe or Star Wars episodes I II III. Learn the ways Quan.

I've given you the proof of this so called theory and all you do is say it's a theory. You don't say why, or give actual evidence or anything to say why it's a theory. This is why you will never and can never defeat me because you don't back up your claims you just make random claims and expect everyone to go with them, you need actual proof that you can post online, also you need to start saying why things are speculation and providing evidence of why it is,instead of just saying its speculation. If you go into a courtroom and say that's wrong and not say why the jury and the judge are going to look at you and think this guy doesn't know what he's doing.

Well the fact that this is magic and doesn't need a wand it can just basically do whatever, any character there the can turn into whatever they want, burn whatever they want, freeze whatever they want and so much more.

I don't have to as its your job to prove your theory. You failed.

Nah. Quit making things up. Trek's tech blows them out of the water. Trek wins.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You are in a movie only thread so quit trolling.

I don't have to as its your job to prove your theory. You failed.

Nah. Quit making things up. Trek's tech blows them out of the water. Trek wins.

But the debate is not about this thread.

It's your job to disprove the facts put before you. You are so far failing to do that.

You must no have seen the TV series which is ok because it's on Netflix and you can watch it whenever but any character who goes up against Mr Gold is going to lose as all he has to do is turn them into something.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
But the debate is not about this thread.

It's your job to disprove the facts put before you. You are so far failing to do that.

You must no have seen the TV series which is ok because it's on Netflix and you can watch it whenever but any character who goes up against Mr Gold is going to lose as all he has to do is turn them into something.

You didn't put up a fact you put up a theory. If you make a claim then you need to prove it.

That isn't in this thread and you got his name wrong anyways, dummy.

Originally posted by quanchi112
When I ask for feats I always ask for feats in continuity you pitiful man.

You didn't put up a fact you put up a theory. If you make a claim then you need to prove it.

That isn't in this thread and you got his name wrong anyways, dummy.

What you got it what you asked for. It's not my fault you can't be specific.

You prove a claim with different facts and that's what I did. I presented facts to prove my claim now it's your job to disprove it if you can.

His name is Mr. Gold and that's what I put. He also goes by Rumplestiltskin but both work. I know more about it than you do idiot.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
What you got it what you asked for. It's not my fault you can't be specific.

You prove a claim with different facts and that's what I did. I presented facts to prove my claim now it's your job to disprove it if you can.

His name is Mr. Gold and that's what I put. He also goes by Rumplestiltskin but both work. I know more about it than you do idiot.

You theorized without proving your claim. His name isn't mr. Gold, fanboy. Apparently not. 😱 😂

Originally posted by quanchi112
You don't realize that in a canon thread it's a given. You're clueless.

You theorized without proving your claim. His name isn't mr. Gold, fanboy. Apparently not. 😱 😂

Yes you are clueless. I have you what you asked for don't get mad at me because you weren't specific.

Actually I gave you the facts that proved my claim while all you say is it's speculation or you haven't backed your claim. You have to attempt to disprove it. Until then it still stands.

Actually his name is Mr Gold in the real world watch the show. In the enchanted forest he is known as Rumplestiltskin.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Yes you are clueless. I have you what you asked for don't get mad at me because you weren't specific.

Actually I gave you the facts that proved my claim while all you say is it's speculation or you haven't backed your claim. You have to attempt to disprove it. Until then it still stands.

Actually his name is Mr Gold in the real world watch the show. In the enchanted forest he is known as Rumplestiltskin.

You need to prove your theory first.

That isn't his real name, dummy. 😂

Originally posted by quanchi112
We always cite canon instances but I guess you're used to using fan fic. This explains a lot.

You need to prove your theory first.

That isn't his real name, dummy. 😂

Actually I'm used to using all. Legends and Canon. He's explains my versatility. You wouldn't survive in Star Wars versus forum.

Actually you bring in facts to back up the claim and then you have to attempt to disprove it. First I go, then you say why I'm wrong or try and refute it and that's how debates go. You should learn that.

Mr. Gold/Rumplestiltskin. He goes by both thank you very much. I've actually seen the series's while you actually haven't. While I don't mind you not seeing it you could at the very least do some research or watch a couple of episodes. He goes by both.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Actually I'm used to using all. Legends and Canon. He's explains my versatility. You wouldn't survive in Star Wars versus forum.

Actually you bring in facts to back up the claim and then you have to attempt to disprove it. First I go, then you say why I'm wrong or try and refute it and that's how debates go. You should learn that.

Mr. Gold/Rumplestiltskin. He goes by both thank you very much. I've actually seen the series's while you actually haven't. While I don't mind you not seeing it you could at the very least do some research or watch a couple of episodes. He goes by both.

No, you need to prove your claim. If it's just a theory then I don't need to disprove gout baselss claim.

What does it say on his dagger ? You're a fool.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Legenda isn't canon anymore so it's against the rules here. The rules are clear so don't break them just because you can't cite an instance.

No, you need to prove your claim. If it's just a theory then I don't need to disprove gout baselss claim.

What does it say on his dagger ? You're a fool.

On thread debates not off thread debates. Next time be specific. Don't get mad at me because you can't handle off thread debates.

If it were baseless you would be wrong but since your opponent has used facts from the movie and now you have to disprove them or show how they are wrong or irrelevant. That's how you disprove it.

Again I have said his name is Mr Gold just as well as Rumplestiltskin. You are the fool who apparently can't read.

Does anyone else find it funny that thedkeffect has to rely on the original Trek(which he hates) to win this, because his much loved NuTrek would get destroyed rather easily?