Star Trek vs. Star Wars

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Could Khan out-engineer Tony Stark from the MCU?

Originally posted by playa1258
Could Khan out-engineer Tony Stark from the MCU?
Let's keep it to the topic. I merely compared his genius to Vader's. Khan's on another level.

OK still impressive for a kid. I'm pissed we did not get to see Vengeance use the big ass torpedo launchers.

Originally posted by playa1258
OK still impressive for a kid. I'm pissed we did not get to see Vengeance use the big ass torpedo launchers.
Vader is no idiot when it comes to intelligence but I'm just saying against Khan and inventing weapons he's out of his depth. Vader becomes laughably soft when his emotions get involved. That's when he becomes easily manipulated. If you gave Khan five minutes with Vader he'd be polishing Khan's shoes and defying the emperor.

Vader is mentally tougher than Anakin was.

Originally posted by playa1258
Vader is mentally tougher than Anakin was.
He was Vader when he was manipulated though in rots. Palpatine kept on manipulating him for years.

Originally posted by quanchi112
It takes multiple seconds. It's laughably slow when Vader uses it. Once he was teleported that'd break his concentration anyways. Khan is far more cunning than dumb Vader is.

Multiple seconds to kill not to use.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Multiple seconds to kill not to use.
So ? People can fight back while being choked. He'd be teleported over thus breaking his concentration. Khan is smarter, more cunning, stronger, and more powerful than Vader.

Originally posted by quanchi112
So ? People can fight back while being choked. He'd be teleported over thus breaking his concentration. Khan is smarter, more cunning, stronger, and more powerful than Vader.

While people can still react while being choked their reflexes and everything else are much slower. So while being choked everything Khan has will be less slower and if vader finds it to be a threat, unless it's a natural ability and not a mechanical machine he won't really be able to use it as vader could just stop him wi his,free hand. Also isn't vader capable of force crush.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
While people can still react while being choked their reflexes and everything else are much slower. So while being choked everything Khan has will be less slower and if vader finds it to be a threat, unless it's a natural ability and not a mechanical machine he won't really be able to use it as vader could just stop him wi his,free hand. Also isn't vader capable of force crush.
Khan just has to press the trigger. He's also superhuman and has super resilience. Khan wins, easily.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Khan just has to press the trigger. He's also superhuman and has super resilience. Khan wins, easily.

Well so to did Obi wan yet he couldn't do anything really. Also he has to press a trigger if he has to do that with his reflexes being slower, vader could just use his other hand or even his mind to keep Khan still or keep his arms and hands back so he can't press the trigger. Also vader has his suit so unless Khan has some lightning that can match Sidious Vaders going to stay around and even when.

https://youtu.be/nK3y7UMDrtI

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Well so to did Obi wan yet he couldn't do anything really. Also he has to press a trigger if he has to do that with his reflexes being slower, vader could just use his other hand or even his mind to keep Khan still or keep his arms and hands back so he can't press the trigger. Also vader has his suit so unless Khan has some lightning that can match Sidious Vaders going to stay around and even when.

https://youtu.be/nK3y7UMDrtI

What ? Vader doesn't do that in the films so please quit making things up. One blast kills Vader. Hell, he's the only schmuck who got killed by force lightning.

Originally posted by quanchi112
What ? Vader doesn't do that in the films so please quit making things up. One blast kills Vader. Hell, he's the only schmuck who got killed by force lightning.

So because we don't see something that means that person can't do it. He is clearly has the force and is powerful. He can just use the force to keep his limbs in place. Darth Maul did it against Obi wan and he couldn't do anything.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
So because we don't see something that means that person can't do it. He is clearly has the force and is powerful. He can just use the force to keep his limbs in place. Darth Maul did it against Obi wan and he couldn't do anything.
You're making up feats. I base my logic off feats you make shit up. It's your thing. 😂

Originally posted by quanchi112
You're making up feats. I base my logic off feats you make shit up. It's your thing. 😂

You are narrow minded. Thats like saying since we never see Darth Sidious use use force choke in the films that means he can't use it ever when we see people less than him use it. You ignore common sense as per the norm.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
You are narrow minded. Thats like saying since we never see Darth Sidious use use force choke in the films that means he can't use it ever when we see people less than him use it. You ignore common sense as per the norm.
I am not saying he can't use the lower I am saying it isn't that likely. We see him force choke as well. We don't ignore the timing of his feats and say he waves his arm faster, derp.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I am not saying he can't use the lower I am saying it isn't that likely. We see him force choke as well. We don't ignore the timing of his feats and say he waves his arm faster, derp.

Why isn't it likely as if he feels threatened he will use the force to stop him from moving and to transport him and vader. Yea and frankly vader can use the force without the need to lift his hands.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Why isn't it likely as if he feels threatened he will use the force to stop him from moving and to transport him and vader. Yea and frankly vader can use the force without the need to lift his hands.
Its too late. He's dead. He's too fast and accurate.

Making up feats again. 😂

Originally posted by quanchi112
Its too late. He's dead. He's too fast and accurate.

Making up feats again. 😂

We take him at his prime and his prime is before he fought Luke. So with that he can still use the force to keep Khan under control.

Yes yes you are. Quan you aren't very good at this.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
We take him at his prime and his prime is before he fought Luke. So with that he can still use the force to keep Khan under control.

Yes yes you are. Quan you aren't very good at this.

So you admit he got weaker. Good, Anakin good. You just made up a feat. Base it off evidence not your pea brain.