Star Trek vs. Star Wars

Started by StealthRanger34 pages
Originally posted by quanchi112
I never said they were unbeatable but they will do massive damage to the Wars universe.

If they can't adapt to their attacks, they won't be able to beat the GE

You won't post any feats and I already explained what is relevant.

All you said is "herp derp they tank alot". How's bout you tell us said attacks and how powerful they are, hmm?

So you don't know. What is the biggest thing the Death Star has destroyed ?

Death Star destroyed Alderaan, said feat calced at 21,000 yottatons over at SD.net

The Borg ship got gutted by small force compared to what SW verse has with the Star Destroyers and Death Star. Their shields didn't mean crap.

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
It was already relevant prior to Abrams. Do you mean he made it relevant again?
It was a mediocre film series and awful tv series. This brought it into non Trekkie laps. It was a huge success and you can thank Abrams.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
The Borg ship got gutted by small force compared to what SW verse has with the Star Destroyers and Death Star. Their shields didn't mean crap.

only got gutted because picard sensed their weak spot with his borg implants that he only had because the borg queen had a crush on him. it's completely fallacious to deny the relevance of that context.

And wow, this went south quickly....

Would everyone please calm down?

So many of these arguments are rehashes....

Originally posted by focus4chumps
only got gutted because picard sensed their weak spot with his borg implants that he only had because the borg queen had a crush on him. it's completely fallacious to deny the relevance of that context.

Sure, but when they did the scan of the ship it came up as extremely damaged and Picard had a way finish the job. The DS would take it out in one shot, or multiple star destroyers could team up on it, it could not repel that much firepower.

Yeah guys please calm down and quit stealing my arguments.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Sure, but when they did the scan of the ship it came up as extremely damaged and Picard had a way finish the job. The DS would take it out in one shot, or multiple star destroyers could team up on it, it could not repel that much firepower.

sustained heavy damage to it's outer hull, IOW lots of superficial damage while they were slaughtering the federation ships.

PICARD: What is the status of the Borg cube?
DATA: It has sustained heavy damage to its outer hull. I am reading fluctuations in their power grid.

Does anyone oppose Trek being more impressive here ?

original trek. NuFagTrek gets raped by the empire.

Originally posted by focus4chumps
original trek. NuFagTrek gets raped by the empire.
No, they don't but they are together. Quit crying over NuTrek shitting all over old trek.

NuKhan shits all over wrath of khan as well.

Originally posted by quanchi112
How would they overwhelm them with the shielding, transportational abilities, and the weaponry the Trek universe has access to.

I doubt the shielding of so few ships could stand up to that kind of bombardment. the borg are really their only hope, and they wouldn't last long.

Originally posted by StealthRanger
Which is a no limit fallacy

no it isn't, as I never said that they had no limits to their adaptation. Just that they have proven adaptation abilities.

Death Star, Star Destroyers, Jedi, Sith reign supreme in all that is of space. Their power is overwhelming, they can destroy planets, whip out droid armies. Precognition of any fight gives them the advantage over every encounter. Their power will overwhelm all of NuVerse.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Death Star, Star Destroyers, Jedi, Sith reign supreme in all that is of space. Their power is overwhelming, they can destroy planets, whip out droid armies. Precognition of any fight gives them the advantage over every encounter. Their power will overwhelm all of NuVerse.

OP said only movies.

Otherwise, the Q Continuum.

Originally posted by -Pr-
I doubt the shielding of so few ships could stand up to that kind of bombardment. the borg are really their only hope, and they wouldn't last long.

no it isn't, as I never said that they had no limits to their adaptation. Just that they have proven adaptation abilities.

They can transport torpedoes and any manner of weaponry aboard. In both of the Trek universes on the big screen there are far more than a few ships.

Originally posted by -Pr-
OP said only movies.

Otherwise, the Q Continuum.

Everything I said was in the movies.

Originally posted by quanchi112
They can transport torpedoes and any manner of weaponry aboard. In both of the a Trek universes on the big screen there are far more than a few ships.

Federation ships don't transport torpedoes in the movies. Sure, it's a smart tactic that should be used, but the likelihood of them doing it, when they can just point and shoot, is not that high imo.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Everything I said was in the movies.

The Death Star is the only thing in the movies shown to wipe out planets. What wipes out droid armies?

Originally posted by -Pr-
Federation ships don't transport torpedoes in the movies. Sure, it's a smart tactic that should be used, but the likelihood of them doing it, when they can just point and shoot, is not that high imo.

The Death Star is the only thing in the movies shown to wipe out planets. What wipes out droid armies?

What in the federation has been shown to wipe out planets? I forgot to mention clone armies. The droid suck and are cannon fodder.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Federation ships don't transport torpedoes in the movies. Sure, it's a smart tactic that should be used, but the likelihood of them doing it, when they can just point and shoot, is not that high imo.

The Death Star is the only thing in the movies shown to wipe out planets. What wipes out droid armies?

We see Spock do so once but not enough to see them probably doing this all the time. I do believe they'd transport men aboard to cause mayhem as in destroy the ship or take it over. The transportational abilities are a huge advantage.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
What in the federation has been shown to wipe out planets? I forgot to mention clone armies. The droid suck and are cannon fodder.

I never said anything in the Trek universe can wipe out planets.

There are things that can, but they're only in the shows, so not usable.

I'm not arguing that Star Wars would lose to nuverse. They wouldn't. They'd beat the primary trek-verse too with these stips. Just want to avoid lowballing etc.

Originally posted by quanchi112
We see Spock do so once but not enough to see them probably doing this all the time. I do believe they'd transport men aboard to cause mayhem as in destroy the ship or take it over. The transportational abilities are a huge advantage.

they would be, if the numbers were at all equal. Star Wars had massive fleets shown in the movies, both of fighters and capital ships.

Trek, even including the fleet from First Contact, can't match those numbers. Not to mention the hard limit on transports and how many people they can move at a time.