Star Trek vs. Star Wars

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
The force would wreck the borg, keep believing lies. You stick up for star was but stick up for the borg, you sound like a flip flop.

What is your obsession with Quan?

The Jedi can sense someones plan through the force like Yoda did when he was betrayed.

yoda sensed their deaths and concluded that they were betrayed. he wasn't seeing the events.

remember ben in ep4. he sensed the deaths on alderaan but he didn't see what happened nor know governor tarkin's plans.

you're making shit up and spinning wheels. stop being quan.

Originally posted by focus4chumps
yoda sensed their deaths and concluded that they were betrayed. he wasn't seeing the events.

And how did Obi Wan and Anakin sense Padme was in danger from another room?

Originally posted by focus4chumps
yoda sensed their deaths and concluded that they were betrayed. he wasn't seeing the events.

remember ben in ep4. he sensed the deaths on alderaan but he didn't see what happened nor know governor tarkin's plans.

you're making shit up and spinning wheels. stop being quan.

Ps. Quit obsessing over me.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
And how did Obi Wan and Anakin sense Padme was in danger from another room?

good question. best and only explanation is that they can sense the presence of life forms.

even if you were right about them reading plans telepathically (you're not), they were firkin centipedes. you're trying to tell me that the jedi read the minds of bugs?

Focus, why are you avoiding my responses ?

google it.

Originally posted by focus4chumps
google it.

Originally posted by focus4chumps
good question. best and only explanation is that they can sense the presence of life forms.

even if you were right about them reading plans telepathically (you're not), they were firkin centipedes. you're trying to tell me that the jedi read the minds of bugs?

My impression is they could sense impending danger. The jedi had the ability to see the future however the dark side blocked these visions, since this option is not on the table this would give them the advantage needed to secure a victory. Anakin saw his mother in danger and close to dying as well. They can see visions of the future.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
My impression is they could sense impending danger. The jedi had the ability to see the future however the dark side blocked these visions, since this option is not on the table this would give them the advantage needed to secure a victory. Anakin saw his mother in danger and close to dying as well. They can see visions of the future.

they have visions, but lets not exaggerate them as having perfect prescience of events like in dune. maybe they had an instantaneous vision of padme dying and acted on it. it's possible. still they had no idea about the bounty hunter or her plan, or else why go through that big chase scene to question her? why not just read her plan and go straight for jango?

:edit: judging by Anakin and luke, they can see glimpses of locations and sense emotions and sensations, particularly fear and pain in those examples. luke saw han and leah dead as well. yet he fell right into vader's trap, didn't he? with no warning from yoda or ben. know why? they didn't sense the plan. in the case of luke, yoda likely inferred the general plan.

Uhhhhhh... Nope. No longer worth the time and energy to try to salvage this mess......

#1: Red Matter = Unique, difficult to use on anything bar planets, and the Death Stars are mobile battle stations with frigging hyperdrives... And only 1 ship has it.

#2: The Phase canon Khan used is a man portable weapon that is going to have no effect on anything armored and shielded. AT-TEs, AT-STs and AT-ATs all smoke that in terms of power and damage output. Not to mention that there are man portable weapons in SW that can match it's damage output, such as PLX-II Missile launchers.

#3: The Vengeance = The Vengeance, with sustained fire, failed to take out the Enterprise, even when it had all the advantages, and Scotty wasn't aboard to keep everything running with spit & duct tape.

Originally posted by focus4chumps
they could beam it at as far a distance as they can and warp the hell out of there. star wars ships seem to need more time plotting trajectories whereas picard is all "getusoutofherewarpnine" and *BAM* they're gone.

the radius of that genesis blast was nothing to **** with. even when the enterprise was in warp you see the blast radius seem to chase them. whatever fleet they attacked would be decimated.

indeed it would, though it depends on the trek forces working well together to make sure it doesn't hurt their own forces too, I would think.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Death Stars and planets.

I see most Star Wars ships as fodder compared to Trek ships. Progression is a wonderful thing.

I get that Palpatine played both sides to further his own ends but the droid army was still a worthy opponent. To me they were always numerous but fodder. In the trek universe they'd annihilate the Droid army and with the Borg would assimilate and add them to their own.

like I said, slow moving targets.

I don't see a star destroyer being fodder to a nutrek enterprise, tbh. not in the slightest.

borg don't assimilate artificial life. that's a pretty big ****ing point about the borg's motivations that you really should know if you have even a passing knowledge of them.

Originally posted by StealthRanger
Still waiting for the proof of Star Trek ships slugging country busters for this "superiority"

huh? Star Trek weaponry could easily annihilate countries.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
The force would wreck the borg, keep believing lies. You stick up for star was but stick up for the borg, you sound like a flip flop.

What is your obsession with Quan?

The Jedi can sense someones plan through the force like Yoda did when he was betrayed.

since when can jedi just randomly read minds to figure out combat strategy?

😂 @ ST/Borg ignorance. Locutus called Data "obsolete". Cannon fodder SW Droids would just be wiped out.

Originally posted by Robtard
😂 @ ST/Borg ignorance. Locutus called Data "obsolete". Cannon fodder SW Droids would just be wiped out.

"he will make an excellent drone"

Originally posted by -Pr-
indeed it would, though it depends on the trek forces working well together to make sure it doesn't hurt their own forces too, I would think.

like I said, slow moving targets.

I don't see a star destroyer being fodder to a nutrek enterprise, tbh. not in the slightest.

borg don't assimilate artificial life. that's a pretty big ****ing point about the borg's motivations that you really should know if you have even a passing knowledge of them.

huh? Star Trek weaponry could easily annihilate countries.

since when can jedi just randomly read minds to figure out combat strategy?

Since when did I say that. A pretty big ----point is the separatist leaders are organic beings. Guess what happens next. Even someone with a passing knowledge of Star Wars should know organic beings control the army.

Irony how delicious it tastes.

Originally posted by Robtard
😂 @ ST/Borg ignorance. Locutus called Data "obsolete". Cannon fodder SW Droids would just be wiped out.

This is a match-up of intelligence? And ALL movies count?

Trek obliterates.

I sense a disturbance in the force that this thread will go on and on and on..

Trek destroys

Originally posted by quanchi112
I do based off of feats and capabilities.

Since when did I say that. A pretty big ----point is the separatist leaders are organic beings. Guess what happens next. Even someone with a passing knowledge of Star Wars should know organic beings control the army.

Irony how delicious it tastes.

Great, well, I based my disagreement on feats and capabilities, so I guess we're at an impasse.

Great, so the Borg, if they were at all interested, might assimilate the commander of one of the droid armies, many of which are commanded individually by droids themselves. the Borg at the most might turn them off, and that's a BIG IF. The Borg only worry about that which they consider a threat, and they'd be far more likely to just ignore the droids or nuke them from orbit. They would practically ignore them unless they considered the droids of worth, tbh. You really should read up on the Borg, like, seriously. You keep acting like they'll do things that are wildly out of character for them.

What irony?

Originally posted by -Pr-
Great, well, I based my disagreement on feats and capabilities, so I guess we're at an impasse.

Great, so the Borg, if they were at all interested, might assimilate the commander of one of the droid armies, many of which are commanded individually by droids themselves. the Borg at the most might turn them off, and that's a BIG IF. The Borg only worry about that which they consider a threat, and they'd be far more likely to just ignore the droids or nuke them from orbit. They would practically ignore them unless they considered the droids of worth, tbh. You really should read up on the Borg, like, seriously. You keep acting like they'll do things that are wildly out of character for them.

What irony?

he never watched the show or the films, and everything he is saying about the borg is a mashup between stuff he saw on youtube with little/no context and scattered info he picked up while skimming through star trek wikis...in case you were wondering how all this ridiculousness is possible.