.... Six -Vs- Thanos .....

Originally posted by h1a8
We go by feats here. Thanos is a beast when fighting enemies within his speed range.

Superman is much faster than Thanos. He can move more than 5ft before Thanos moves 1 in.
Superman is stronger than Thanos.
So how in the hell is Superman not beating him?

Superman is resistant to TP assault, not immune.

Superman IS too fast to be hit by much slower enemies. That doesn't mean he won't get hit (he can choose to get hit).

Surfer, in his greatest speed feat, accelerated to light speed within a few meters of travel. So Superman isn't the only one.

Superman is stronger than all heralds, some trans, some skyfathers.

Damage output due to blasts has nothing to do with anything here.

Energy projection against Thanos with shields (or without) has nothing to do with blunt force hits. They are completely different.

Everyone here is telling you to stick to feats and you got your imagined Superman doing things Dcnu has not done and a bunch of other shit he can do that I never ever seen on panel lol

Originally posted by h1a8
We go by feats here. Thanos is a beast when fighting enemies within his speed range.

Superman is much faster than Thanos. He can move more than 5ft before Thanos moves 1 in.
Superman is stronger than Thanos.
So how in the hell is Superman not beating him?

Superman is resistant to TP assault, not immune.

Superman IS too fast to be hit by much slower enemies. That doesn't mean he won't get hit (he can choose to get hit).

Surfer, in his greatest speed feat, accelerated to light speed within a few meters of travel. So Superman isn't the only one.

Superman is stronger than all heralds, some trans, some skyfathers.

Damage output due to blasts has nothing to do with anything here.

Energy projection against Thanos with shields (or without) has nothing to do with blunt force hits. They are completely different.

1. If Superman is not immune to TP, but only resistant in your own words, this means that his mind can be compromised by a telepath of high standing. Thanos holds this kind of power which was seen several times in comics going all the way back before his first death. To expand on this; Thanos was capable of subduing Galactus once he gained contact with him. This if you did not know is quite a feat. The Hulk is TP resistant, but it did not stop Thanos from instantly taking his mind over.

2. Superman's speed would be useless if his mind was compromised as I mentioned before. As such, Thanos would have all of the time in the world to hit him, and or place him in a containment force cube, which was able to hold Thor with the Power Gem. It was never stated on panel how much stronger the Power Gem made him while he was trapped. You made a false claim, and now believe this lie because you've told yourself that you were right, while you are wrong. You simply have no proof of this number, so as far as we know Thor could have been 10+ times stronger than base.

3. That was not the Surfer's greatest speed feat, his greatest speed feat on panel was him pushing himself so hard that he went back in time.

4. Superman is not greater in strength than all Herald's, and you will never be able to prove this. Hyperion has a greater strength feat than DCnU Superman has to date. He is not trans level, and he certainly isn't as strong as the top Sky Father.

5. Thanos has withstood more than high energy assaults, he took hits from Thor going all out on him, and Thor had the Power Gem. Again, no one believes your wild claims on the number of times stronger Thor was with the Power Gem, because it was never stated on panel just how much stronger the gem made him.

6. It does not matter what you say about this, Thanos is not, and never has been portrayed as a glass cannon. he has actually been portrayed as a well rounded, and very powerful High Trans, low Sky Father character. this is above anything that DCnU Superman can claim. You have only made claims, but have no ability to back them.

Originally posted by h1a8
I'm going by feats. Fallen one has no feats of doing such things. Surfer's greatest speed feat has him reaching light speed after 2 meters of travel. This was his light year IG feat. Playing mind games on Galactus has no bearings on Superman, who is actually resistant to such things. Plus It takes time to do such things. 1second to Superman is like forever.

Can Hyperion pull a 10/10 against DCNU Superman? He pushed 2 universes away from each other with brute strength.

Originally posted by carver9
Can Hyperion pull a 10/10 against DCNU Superman? He pushed 2 universes away from each other with brute strength.

Originally posted by carver9
Can Hyperion pull a 10/10 against DCNU Superman? He pushed 2 universes away from each other with brute strength.

No he didn't, and you ****ing knows it.

Originally posted by SquallX
No he didn't, and you ****ing knows it.

The correct question to ask here, is if he read the comic, and understood the context behind it. Many people had differing opinions of the feat, but the fact still remained that he was holding two universes at bay up until the planets were destroyed. I'm still trying to figure out when surviving the explosion of two planets became a low feat, and if h1 will attempt to discredit the feat in order to suit his views on the outcome of this thread?

Originally posted by SquallX
No he didn't, and you ****ing knows it.

WTF. Yes he did. Where are you getting the idea that he didnt? And Stoic...I OWN the comic.

Originally posted by h1a8
Bait question.
I disagree that he did that from those scans. I believe he survived the collision of two planets if I'm not mistaken.

The writer in a interview confirmed that he did.

Originally posted by carver9
WTF. Yes he did. Where are you getting the idea that he didnt? And Stoic...I OWN the comic.

Carver we are on the same side here. I don't know about him pushing the universes apart. From what I saw, he held them apart. You have to take care in what words you use, or people will see it as a misrepresentation of what happened.

Originally posted by Stoic
Carver we are on the same side here, Squall is as well. He wasn't arguing with you. He was disagreeing with h1.

My bad. Squall is disagree with me though.

Originally posted by carver9
Can Hyperion pull a 10/10 against DCNU Superman? He pushed 2 universes away from each other with brute strength.

H1...answer this question. Also, the universes exploded on Hyperion and he survived and was still awake after the two universes exploded on him. So Hyperion withstood universal attacks along with pushing both away with brute strength. How many wins can Superman get against him?

Originally posted by carver9
H1...answer this question. Also, the universes exploded on Hyperion and he survived and was still awake after the two universes exploded on him. So Hyperion withstood universal attacks along with pushing both away with brute strength. How many wins can Superman get against him?

you see I agree with everything that you said up until you said that he pushed them away. This did not happen, he held them apart, which is an incredible feat in itself. You might want to be careful of the words that you use, because like I said, people will take them literally, and you will look like you are misrepresenting the entire thing instead of being correct about most of it.

Originally posted by Stoic
you see I agree with everything that you said up until you said that he pushed them away. This did not happen, he held them apart, which is an incredible feat in itself. You might want to be careful of the words that you use, because like I said, people will take them literally, and you will look like you are misrepresenting the entire thing instead of being correct about most of it.

Yeah...He didn't push them away. Error on my part. Didn't proof read.

Originally posted by carver9
Yeah...He didn't push them away. Error on my part. Didn't proof read.

By the way, h1 used that as a ploy to sidestep (troll tactic 101) what I addressed earlier so that he could continue to ignore on panel feats. I'll just re-post my rebuttal to him.

Originally posted by Stoic
1. If Superman is not immune to TP, but only resistant in your own words, this means that his mind can be compromised by a telepath of high standing. Thanos holds this kind of power which was seen several times in comics going all the way back before his first death. To expand on this; Thanos was capable of subduing Galactus once he gained contact with him. This if you did not know is quite a feat. The Hulk is TP resistant, but it did not stop Thanos from instantly taking his mind over.

2. Superman's speed would be useless if his mind was compromised as I mentioned before. As such, Thanos would have all of the time in the world to hit him, and or place him in a containment force cube, which was able to hold Thor with the Power Gem. It was never stated on panel how much stronger the Power Gem made him while he was trapped. You made a false claim, and now believe this lie because you've told yourself that you were right, while you are wrong. You simply have no proof of this number, so as far as we know Thor could have been 10+ times stronger than base.

3. That was not the Surfer's greatest speed feat, his greatest speed feat on panel was him pushing himself so hard that he went back in time.

4. Superman is not greater in strength than all Herald's, and you will never be able to prove this. Hyperion has a greater strength feat than DCnU Superman has to date. He is not trans level, and he certainly isn't as strong as the top Sky Father.

5. Thanos has withstood more than high energy assaults, he took hits from Thor going all out on him, and Thor had the Power Gem. Again, no one believes your wild claims on the number of times stronger Thor was with the Power Gem, because it was never stated on panel just how much stronger the gem made him.

6. It does not matter what you say about this, Thanos is not, and never has been portrayed as a glass cannon. he has actually been portrayed as a well rounded, and very powerful High Trans, low Sky Father character. this is above anything that DCnU Superman can claim. You have only made claims, but have no ability to back them.

Which was in replay to this.

Originally posted by h1a8
We go by feats here. Thanos is a beast when fighting enemies within his speed range.

Superman is much faster than Thanos. He can move more than 5ft before Thanos moves 1 in.
Superman is stronger than Thanos.
So how in the hell is Superman not beating him?

Superman is resistant to TP assault, not immune.

Superman IS too fast to be hit by much slower enemies. That doesn't mean he won't get hit (he can choose to get hit).

Surfer, in his greatest speed feat, accelerated to light speed within a few meters of travel. So Superman isn't the only one.

Superman is stronger than all heralds, some trans, some skyfathers.

Damage output due to blasts has nothing to do with anything here.

Energy projection against Thanos with shields (or without) has nothing to do with blunt force hits. They are completely different.

Really all Superman needs to do in this fight is grab the Sword of Omens off Lion-O and decapitate Thanos, which he could do all in the space of a picosecond. The fight would be over almost instantly.

Originally posted by Stoic
1. If Superman is not immune to TP, but only resistant in your own words, this means that his mind can be compromised by a telepath of high standing. Thanos holds this kind of power which was seen several times in comics going all the way back before his first death. To expand on this; Thanos was capable of subduing Galactus once he gained contact with him. This if you did not know is quite a feat. The Hulk is TP resistant, but it did not stop Thanos from instantly taking his mind over.

But outside of that argument,
we don't know if Thanos is able to compromise Superman within battle time. Superman is resistant and it would take not only a powerful telepath but also time to compromise Superman.

2. Superman's speed would be useless if his mind was compromised as I mentioned before. As such, Thanos would have all of the time in the world to hit him, and or place him in a containment force cube, which was able to hold Thor with the Power Gem. It was never stated on panel how much stronger the Power Gem made him while he was trapped. You made a false claim, and now believe this lie because you've told yourself that you were right, while you are wrong. You simply have no proof of this number, so as far as we know Thor could have been 10+ times stronger than base.

Also, if Thanos uses tp and then force block combo then Superman blitzes him from the start before he can react. Superman can also become intangible. You can play that game then I can play the speed game. Remember mind attacks take time to work.

3. That was not the Surfer's greatest speed feat, his greatest speed feat on panel was him pushing himself so hard that he went back in time.

No, it doesn't take a lot to go back in time. Slightly over light speed will do it for you. So nope there.

4. Superman is not greater in strength than all Herald's, and you will never be able to prove this. Hyperion has a greater strength feat than DCnU Superman has to date. He is not trans level, and he certainly isn't as strong as the top Sky Father.

5. Thanos has withstood more than high energy assaults, he took hits from Thor going all out on him, and Thor had the Power Gem. Again, no one believes your wild claims on the number of times stronger Thor was with the Power Gem, because it was never stated on panel just how much stronger the gem made him.

6. It does not matter what you say about this, Thanos is not, and never has been portrayed as a glass cannon. he has actually been portrayed as a well rounded, and very powerful High Trans, low Sky Father character. this is above anything that DCnU Superman can claim. You have only made claims, but have no ability to back them.

Also, you are secretly suggesting that Thanos is above Dr. Xavier in TP. Well you have to look at history and not pick and choose events. More recently Dr. X has been seen as far above Thanos in TP with his sleep feat. Also, any tp should be able to get into Galactus mind if he's not preventing it before it happens.

Originally posted by h1a8

I didn't admit to anything like that. I don''t agree with the logic that this fight will go down like a fight in the comic. This is a forum fight with forum rules. Full Capacity is a rule here. Superman fights with full capacity here. What's so hard to understand. PIS isn't allowed here. Character's powers are not turned off mid battle. That has nothing to do with CHOOSING how to fight.
do with that.

So why does Superman get to fight at full capacity, but Thanos does not?

So H1...fts shows Hyperion temporarily preventing two universes from colliding with brute strength alone and he also tanked the destruction of both Universes. Can Superman defeat him? Yes or no.

Originally posted by fatnlazy
So why does Superman get to fight at full capacity, but Thanos does not?

Originally posted by carver9
So H1...fts shows Hyperion temporarily preventing two universes from colliding with brute strength alone and he also tanked the destruction of both Universes. Can Superman defeat him? Yes or no.