Originally posted by h1a8
I told you that I disagree that hyperion did that. I take the feat that he survived two planets colliding. Enough with the baiting.
The writer himself said that he did it. No denying it and I'm not baiting. To nip this in the bud. Earth (another earth) was moving 500 thousand miles an hour and Hyperion STOPS it.
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He stops the planet dead in its track. A moving planet going at tremendous speeds. So now we have him tanking universal destructions point blank
Originally posted by carver9
Hyperion prevents two universes from colliding and withstood the impact of two universes being destroyed.http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/14972905/Avengers_004-Zone-013.jpg.html
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Hyperion has officially became the strongest, most durable, most powerful Herald there is.
Then Hyperion goes on to say that on the new earth, he is even more powerful since the sun is feeding him more energy on that earth (the sun isn't filter and the troposphere is thin).
The Universes was pushing the planets together and he stopped it (Stoic he did stop it...the strain from him stopping it caused everything to go boom). Then he have another planetary ft of stopping a speeding planet dead in his tracks. How many wins can Doomsday get off of him? What about Superman? Can they bypass his universal durability. Also, lol at baiting l. Everything about your posts is baiting.
Originally posted by h1a8
it doesn't matter how many times Superman has been hit. That's not how character is determined. If superman has been hit 1000 times due to PIS then it still is PIS. Character has something to do with choice and not ability. Superman didn't choose to get hit all those times, his ability was ignored by the writers for the sake of the plot.There are times Superman does get hit on purpose (to gauge the enemies power).
Also, superman will fight as he done so many times in comics (not the way I want him too lol). This is called full capacity. Characters fight to the BEST OF THEIR ABILITIES AS SHOWN BEFORE. The key words of the rule are "as shown before".
Superman has lots of combat speed feats and is shown fighting intelligently plenty of times. This is him at full capacity.Thor, on average throws his hammer about bullet speed or less. Thus Thanos feat wasn't much.
You don't understand physics. Just because a character can travel Ftl speeds doesn't mean they can instantly. It takes time and distance to accelerate to those speeds. Fallen One probably only reached bullet speed by the time Thanos stopped him.
Assuming Maker's fluffy looking blasts are light speed then that feat doesn't count since countless characters (who are far slower than light speed) have reacted and blocked energy beams in comics (including Batman). Otherwise, I can argue that many street levelers has near light speed movement and reactions.
Surfer telegraphed those blasts by pointing his hand. Thanos never teleported after the blast. Thanos basically aimed dodged, something CA, Spidey, batman, etc always do.
Tp won't work on characters who are resistant in a forum fight.
Also, you are contradicting yourself about character. Thanos only force blocked 3 times in his career vs. hundreds of times not doing it. Yet he force blocks here from your logic?
I have no problem with it since I know it is Thanos character to do so when he is fighting at the best of his ability.Superman can simply bust out of it since he is stronger than Odin. Yes superman is a lot stronger than Thor, by feats, and in turn 2x Thor (pg Thor). That's assuming that Superman chooses to get hit by that attack.
See this is where you're wrong... It very much matters how he fights in comics because that is how we figure out what a character is capable of. Without his comic book fights we wouldn't have feats. So the way Superman fights and how he fights in comics is the no. 1 we use on this forum.
You can't say thanos won't TP him.. that is not how it works. Since superman has gotten TP''d NUMEROUS times in his history.. and thanos has some good TP feats.. it's certainly possible he could get TP'd.. which is a far cry from you saying there isn't a chance of that. That is just basic common sense. You just have your superman blinders on.. so you won't admit it.. but that is proper debating.
Superman isn't stronger than Odin.. nor is he stronger than PG Thor. He wouldn't be able to break out in time for it not to be counted as a victory for Thanos. He only has a short period of time to do so... and he won't be able. to.
See this is why you're a jackass.. POST THE FEATS THAT LEAD YOU TO THE CONCLUSION THAT THOR THROWS HIS HAMMER ON AVERAGE AT BULLET SPEED. This is the claim you made... NOW BACK IT UP AND SHOW YOUR EVIDENCE THAT SUPPORTS YOUR CONCLUSION. That's just it.. you make wild claims that have no basis in reality. either post them or concede you have no idea how fast thor throws his hammer on average. Rage posted Thor throwing his hammer light speed in this very thread and without much distance needed. You can't dismiss that proof for your theory with no proof.
Do you know that Hulk has better TP resistance showings than superman does.. guess what? Thanos TP'd him with utter ease. Thanos just has too many ways of beating superman, and one of them is even at superman's own game.. h2h. He's just too powerful for superman which is why he's high trans or low skyfather.. while Superman is a herald. If superman was as powerful as you claim.. he'd be in the same tier as thanos.. he's not, and for good reason.
Originally posted by carver9
The writer himself said that he did it. No denying it and I'm not baiting. To nip this in the bud. Earth (another earth) was moving 500 thousand miles an hour and Hyperion STOPS it.http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/17319511/Avengers_v524.NOW-028.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/17319514/Avengers_v524.NOW-029.jpg.htmlHe stops the planet dead in its track. A moving planet going at tremendous speeds. So now we have him tanking universal destructions point blank
The Universes was pushing the planets together and he stopped it (Stoic he did stop it...the strain from him stopping it caused everything to go boom). Then he have another planetary ft of stopping a speeding planet dead in his tracks. How many wins can Doomsday get off of him? What about Superman? Can they bypass his universal durability. Also, lol at baiting l. Everything about your posts is baiting.
Scans don't work. I don't believe you Carver. I saw the scans myself. What issue is the feat in, I'll read the story myself.
You are baiting because Hyperion has nothing to do with this thread.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
See this is where you're wrong... It very much matters how he fights in comics because that is how we figure out what a character is capable of. Without his comic book fights we wouldn't have feats. So the way Superman fights and how he fights in comics is the no. 1 we use on this forum.You can't say thanos won't TP him.. that is not how it works. Since superman has gotten TP''d NUMEROUS times in his history.. and thanos has some good TP feats.. it's certainly possible he could get TP'd.. which is a far cry from you saying there isn't a chance of that. That is just basic common sense. You just have your superman blinders on.. so you won't admit it.. but that is proper debating.
Superman isn't stronger than Odin.. nor is he stronger than PG Thor. He wouldn't be able to break out in time for it not to be counted as a victory for Thanos. He only has a short period of time to do so... and he won't be able. to.
See this is why you're a jackass.. POST THE FEATS THAT LEAD YOU TO THE CONCLUSION THAT THOR THROWS HIS HAMMER ON AVERAGE AT BULLET SPEED. This is the claim you made... NOW BACK IT UP AND SHOW YOUR EVIDENCE THAT SUPPORTS YOUR CONCLUSION. That's just it.. you make wild claims that have no basis in reality. either post them or concede you have no idea how fast thor throws his hammer on average. Rage posted Thor throwing his hammer light speed in this very thread and without much distance needed. You can't dismiss that proof for your theory with no proof.
Do you know that Hulk has better TP resistance showings than superman does.. guess what? Thanos TP'd him with utter ease. Thanos just has too many ways of beating superman, and one of them is even at superman's own game.. h2h. He's just too powerful for superman which is why he's high trans or low skyfather.. while Superman is a herald. If superman was as powerful as you claim.. he'd be in the same tier as thanos.. he's not, and for good reason.
Superman has only been tp in comics due to a plot device. There is no plot device here. Also, you can't ignore Superman's feats against tp.
Why isn't Superman stronger than Odin or PG Thor? What feats do they have that surpasses Superman's feats?
Thor has thrown the hammer at light speed before several times. But it is mentioned when he does it. The hammer goes far under light speed in comics on average because it is shown to, beings who don't have light speed reflexes have avoided the hammer toss, etc. And I take character's words with a grain of salt. Otherwise Superman can shatter a planet with a punch because he said so.
I disagree that Hulk has better tp feats than Superman. Superman has only been tp through a plot device (like Maxwell taking years to do it).
Originally posted by h1a8
Scans don't work. I don't believe you Carver. I saw the scans myself. What issue is the feat in, I'll read the story myself.
You are baiting because Hyperion has nothing to do with this thread.Superman has only been tp in comics due to a plot device. There is no plot device here. Also, you can't ignore Superman's feats against tp.
Why isn't Superman stronger than Odin or PG Thor? What feats do they have that surpasses Superman's feats?
Thor has thrown the hammer at light speed before several times. But it is mentioned when he does it. The hammer goes far under light speed in comics on average because it is shown to, beings who don't have light speed reflexes have avoided the hammer toss, etc. And I take character's words with a grain of salt. Otherwise Superman can shatter a planet with a punch because he said so.
I disagree that Hulk has better tp feats than Superman. Superman has only been tp through a plot device (like Maxwell taking years to do it).
What the **** are you talking about? He only get TP'd because of plot WTF does that even mean? That is beyond idiotic. he gets TP'd BECAUSE HE IS NOT IMMUNE TO TP. You make it sound like one of his traits is being immune to tp but through him being weakened or whatever plot device happens he's TP'd. Not how it happens. He doesn't have some total invulnerability to being TP'd and he can't be TP'd ever. That isn't the cause. Stop being a moron by saying he's TP'd because of the plot. NO. He's TP'd because he's not totally immune to being TP'd. Get it straight. Thanos very well might be able to TP him.
I don't care how you VIEW it.. I want PROOF that Thor's hammer is thrown at bullet speed LIKE YOU CLAIMED. So post the proof or concede you have NO CLUE how fast Thor throws his hammer on average.
Superman doesn't wreck heralds with the ease PG thor did. That tells me Thor was more powerful than Superman and stronger. Odin is stronger than that... so superman is no where near that strong.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
What the **** are you talking about? He only get TP'd because of plot WTF does that even mean? That is beyond idiotic. he gets TP'd BECAUSE HE IS NOT IMMUNE TO TP. You make it sound like one of his traits is being immune to tp but through him being weakened or whatever plot device happens he's TP'd. Not how it happens. He doesn't have some total invulnerability to being TP'd and he can't be TP'd ever. That isn't the cause. Stop being a moron by saying he's TP'd because of the plot. NO. He's TP'd because he's not totally immune to being TP'd. Get it straight. Thanos very well might be able to TP him.I don't care how you VIEW it.. I want PROOF that Thor's hammer is thrown at bullet speed LIKE YOU CLAIMED. So post the proof or concede you have NO CLUE how fast Thor throws his hammer on average.
Superman doesn't wreck heralds with the ease PG thor did. That tells me Thor was more powerful than Superman and stronger. Odin is stronger than that... so superman is no where near that strong.
Maybe he is using Odin from the Thor movies?
Originally posted by KuRuPT ThanosiRead Superman and you tell me. It was always took time to achieve it (like years), a plot device that needs to be planted on or in him, etc. So the statement "Superman has been tped" is meaningless in a forum fight where plot devices don't exist.
What the **** are you talking about? He only get TP'd because of plot WTF does that even mean? That is beyond idiotic. he gets TP'd BECAUSE HE IS NOT IMMUNE TO TP. You make it sound like one of his traits is being immune to tp but through him being weakened or whatever plot device happens he's TP'd. Not how it happens. He doesn't have some total invulnerability to being TP'd and he can't be TP'd ever. That isn't the cause. Stop being a moron by saying he's TP'd because of the plot. NO. He's TP'd because he's not totally immune to being TP'd. Get it straight. Thanos very well might be able to TP him.I don't care how you VIEW it.. I want PROOF that Thor's hammer is thrown at bullet speed LIKE YOU CLAIMED. So post the proof or concede you have NO CLUE how fast Thor throws his hammer on average.
Superman doesn't wreck heralds with the ease PG thor did. That tells me Thor was more powerful than Superman and stronger. Odin is stronger than that... so superman is no where near that strong.
The proof is how it is depicted in flight when Thor throws the hammer. The proof is in being's ability to avoid or block the hammer who doesn't possess light speed reflexes. In every medium, from movies to cartoons, Thor hammer doesn't go greater than bullet speed. Thus the main proof is in the writer's mind.
Let me ask you something. Can you prove that everytime Thor throws the hammer it is light speed or close?
Originally posted by StoicUntil you prove how can Thanos win against Superman when the Superman can move more than 5ft before Thanos moves 1in then Superman beats the shit out of Thanos everytime.
I can only say that I agree with you. Nothing that h1a8 ever says makes any sense. thus instead of conceding he bullshits until he believes that he has a foot hold, and the BS begins again.
Originally posted by h1a8
Read Superman and you tell me. It was always took time to achieve it (like years), a plot device that needs to be planted on or in him, etc. So the statement "Superman has been tped" is meaningless in a forum fight where plot devices don't exist.The proof is how it is depicted in flight when Thor throws the hammer. The proof is in being's ability to avoid or block the hammer who doesn't possess light speed reflexes. In every medium, from movies to cartoons, Thor hammer doesn't go greater than bullet speed. Thus the main proof is in the writer's mind.
Let me ask you something. Can you prove that everytime Thor throws the hammer it is light speed or close?
You DON"T READ SUPERMAN COMICS. He's been TP'd in an instant and it didn't take years. That is why nobody takes you seriously on here because you don't read comics and have no clue what you've talking about. It doesn't take years in every case.. you're only referring to one instant as if this was the only time in his history. He's been TP'd NUMEROUS times and it didn't take years. In fact, sometimes it's been painfully easy.
Then PROVE that this particular throw was bullet speed. YOU MADE THE CLAIM that is was now prove it. You've been shown proof that THor can throw his hammer light speed and in a very short distance. I made no claim how fast he threw it at thanos.. YOU MADE THE CLAIM it was bullet speed. Now back it up.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
You DON"T READ SUPERMAN COMICS. He's been TP'd in an instant and it didn't take years. That is why nobody takes you seriously on here because you don't read comics and have no clue what you've talking about. It doesn't take years in every case.. you're only referring to one instant as if this was the only time in his history. He's been TP'd NUMEROUS times and it didn't take years. In fact, sometimes it's been painfully easy.Then PROVE that this particular throw was bullet speed. YOU MADE THE CLAIM that is was now prove it. You've been shown proof that THor can throw his hammer light speed and in a very short distance. I made no claim how fast he threw it at thanos.. YOU MADE THE CLAIM it was bullet speed. Now back it up.
WTH are you talking about. Prove it then. Show me examples of where Superman has been tp very easily and instantly without any type of plot device.
I proved it several times. If you don't accept the prove then that's different.
Here it is again.
1. Non speedsters (or beings who don't have light speed reflexes) has avoided the hammer or blocked it.
2. It has been depicted by art to be moving under bullet speed.
3. Writer's imagine it going fast enough to been seen my the naked eye when it is thrown.
Any one of those prove it. To not accept the proof is the claim that all 1,2, and 3 are false (and not some).
Also, you are forgetting that Superman can pop Thanos before he attempts or activates a successful tp.
Originally posted by h1a8
WTH are you talking about. Prove it then. Show me examples of where Superman has been tp very easily and instantly without any type of plot device.I proved it several times. If you don't accept the prove then that's different.
Here it is again.
1. Non speedsters (or beings who don't have light speed reflexes) has avoided the hammer or blocked it.
2. It has been depicted by art to be moving under bullet speed.
3. Writer's imagine it going fast enough to been seen my the naked eye when it is thrown.Any one of those prove it. To not accept the proof is the claim that all 1,2, and 3 are false (and not some).
Also, you are forgetting that Superman can pop Thanos before he attempts or activates a successful tp.
Here's a present for you h1. Just scan through some of these.
Originally posted by h1a8
Until you prove how can Thanos win against Superman when the Superman can move more than 5ft before Thanos moves 1in then Superman beats the shit out of Thanos everytime.
What you're doing is arguing a CIS off Superman, and not how he acts in comics. You can't ignore a characters personality, and fight in their stead. if you do, it wouldn't be Superman, but Zod, or Ultraman. but even with CIS off for both of them, there is a large gap in power between them and Thanos. I posted google images of Superman being dealt with, or how he dealt with TP exploitation against him here.
Originally posted by Stoic
What you're doing is arguing a CIS off Superman, and not how he acts in comics. You can't ignore a characters personality, and fight in their stead. if you do, it wouldn't be Superman, but Zod, or Ultraman. but even with CIS off for both of them, there is a large gap in power between them and Thanos. I posted google images of Superman being dealt with, or how he dealt with TP exploitation against him here.
Damn Stoic all I hear is crickets chirping lol
Think u scared him off..
