.... Six -Vs- Thanos .....

Originally posted by Stoic
Galactus didn't allow Thanos into his mind, Thanos had help from Moondragon to stabilize the connection, but once he was in his mind, he was able to profoundly effect Galactus. This is far more than enough to take Superman's mind over. Grodd has effected Superman's mind, so you need to stop lying, and pretending like Superman is immune to this type of attack.
Odin waved at the Surfer, but he had it out with Thanos. Superman was band handed into the moon, and unable to continue. There is a large difference in the amount of damage that Thanos can take and Superman can take. Or was your version of Superman jobbing again? He wanted to be hit?

Yes, Thanos asked Galactus to enter a PREPPED mental plane. Galactus agreed. He affected Galactus because Galactus offered no resistance at first. But when he saw what Thanos was doing he quickly took over. So IMO that wasn't a good feat.
I don't see how that showing is greater than what Dr. Xavier could do (with moon dragon lol).

Again they were on a prepped mental plane. So the feat is really irrelevant.
Also Galactus offered no resistance.

You don't know the circumstances in which Grodd affected Superman. Also Superman has resisted Grodd before. So that kills that. Superman has also resisted several other powerful telepaths. Also, most of the avengers were kinda resistant to Thano. Thanos chose the weakest mind (Hulk) to take over. He could have easily took over Thor if he could. Superman's mind is very strong, especially when he is concentrating.

What are you talking about? Superman never got hit by Odin. Odin never hit Thanos with a physical blunt hit. So it's irrelevant really.
Thanos resistance to blunt force is not that much greater (if any) in comparison to Superman's. Thanos energy projection durability is superior though.
But I don't see Superman winning by HV but koing Thanos with his fists.
Superman could freeze Thanos to slow him down even further and get free licks.

Originally posted by h1a8
Yes, Thanos asked Galactus to enter a PREPPED mental plane. Galactus agreed. He affected Galactus because Galactus offered no resistance at first. But when he saw what Thanos was doing he quickly took over. So IMO that wasn't a good feat.
I don't see how that showing is greater than what Dr. Xavier could do (with moon dragon lol).

Again they were on a prepped mental plane. So the feat is really irrelevant.
Also Galactus offered no resistance.

You don't know the circumstances in which Grodd affected Superman. Also Superman has resisted Grodd before. So that kills that. Superman has also resisted several other powerful telepaths. Also, most of the avengers were kinda resistant to Thano. Thanos chose the weakest mind (Hulk) to take over. He could have easily took over Thor if he could. Superman's mind is very strong, especially when he is concentrating.

What are you talking about? Superman never got hit by Odin. Odin never hit Thanos with a physical blunt hit. So it's irrelevant really.
Thanos resistance to blunt force is not that much greater (if any) in comparison to Superman's. Thanos energy projection durability is superior though.
But I don't see Superman winning by HV but koing Thanos with his fists.
Superman could freeze Thanos to slow him down even further and get free licks.

I get it now. You didn't read anything that you're commenting on, you're just disagreeing with scans of events that you saw. In other words it's a waste of time debating anything with you. Superman was taken over, it is not impossible to take him over, the Hulk was the most dangerous opponent portrayed in that particular arc because Thor was still getting the scrub treatment. Thanos did not ask Galactus for permission, Moondragon helped him stabilize the connection so that he could enter his mind. Show me where he walks up to Galactus and asks him if he can enter his mind, because I am not aware of this ever happening.

Actually don't because if Superman is proven to be hit in a comic, you come up with a way that he is not going to be hit, by saying that he allowed himself to be hit. If Superman gets KO'd in the comics its because he wanted to be, and if he is TP'd in a comic it's because he allowed himself to be.

Thanos has not once been beaten by someone on Superman's level, while Superman is constantly hurt and defeated by less than Thanos level threats, and yet I'm supposed to take what you say seriously? Track record is what matters here the most, and Superman's record does not live up to your hype. I would also like to know when and where Superman gave Darkseid some treatment in the DCnU? I thought Darkseid was the one handing out the asswhip cards.

Originally posted by Stoic
I get it now. You didn't read anything that you're commenting on, you're just disagreeing with scans of events that you saw. In other words it's a waste of time debating anything with you. Superman was taken over, it is not impossible to take him over, the Hulk was the most dangerous opponent portrayed in that particular arc because Thor was still getting the scrub treatment. Thanos did not ask Galactus for permission, Moondragon helped him stabilize the connection so that he could enter his mind. Show me where he walks up to Galactus and asks him if he can enter his mind, because I am not aware of this ever happening.

Actually don't because if Superman is proven to be hit in a comic, you come up with a way that he is not going to be hit, by saying that he allowed himself to be hit. If Superman gets KO'd in the comics its because he wanted to be, and if he is TP'd in a comic it's because he allowed himself to be.

Thanos has not once been beaten by someone on Superman's level, while Superman is constantly hurt and defeated by less than Thanos level threats, and yet I'm supposed to take what you say seriously? Track record is what matters here the most, and Superman's record does not live up to your hype. I would also like to know when and where Superman gave Darkseid some treatment in the DCnU? I thought Darkseid was the one handing out the asswhip cards.

Did you read the issue where Grodd tp Superman?
How is that even relevant when I blatantly told you that Superman resisted Grodd before (probably at a later date). So we use low showings against contradictory high ones? Superman became more and more powerful over time. I'm not claiming that Superman is immune to tp. But we don't know if Thanos can tp Superman effectively given Superman's awesome feats against it. Hell, Superman can just concentrate a very little (like whistling) and resist very powerful telepaths.

Thanos asked Galactus, through a tp transmission, to enter a mental plane that was already set up. Is that what you are talking about? Or the scene where Thanos grew vines to try to reach inside Galactus mind? If the former then that is a non feat since moondragon assisted. If the latter then Galactus willingly went to the PREPPED MENTAL PLANE (That was prepared prior) and allowed no resistance.

And you didn't read the issue involving the avengers. Thanos said with his own mouth "weakest of minds". That means Hulk was the weak link. Stop trying to circumvent the writer's intentions. They are crystal clear.

And I have read the scenes I'm referring to. I have the whole comics. But's that's irrelevant since my point is still valid.

I gave THREE FREAKING REASONS why Superman is hit in comics, yet you are only focused on one of them. Again,
1. He gets hit on purpose
2. His powers are ignored for the sake of the plot
3. He gets hit by beings who rival him in speed.

2. Doesn't work in a forum fight and 3. is off limits since Thanos is nowhere near Superman's speed. Superman may or may not do 1. to test Thanos. But after the first hit or two then no more. Superman already knows how dangerous Thanos is anyway. So it makes no sense to get hit on purpose more than 2 times.

Levels in itself don't mean shit when it comes to fights. I can give examples of lower level beings beating higher level beings because they have the specific tools or style to do it.

Superman is stronger (when he is not holding back), vastly faster, more mobile, has better reflexes, knows pressure points, and is more versatile than Thanos.
Thanos has better energy durability, has shields, is smarter (but doesn't matter since he can't think as fast as Superman), and is stronger (when Superman is holding back).

Thanos has no REALISTIC way of beating Superman giving his speed and feats of using it.

Can a mod step in a help out with this?
For a ruling on this..

Low balling Thanos for one and Superman being used as if he
Is Odin level..

Just so we can move on with what is supposed to be a team fight.

The problem h1, is that arguing with you is futile, because even when people show you on panel evidence you find a way of turning it around, and downplaying it to something below what Superman is capable of without having any reason that should allow you to do these idiotic things. You basically have no proof. People show Thanos dealing with a blitz from the Fallen One, so you say that the Fallen One wasn't moving at Superman's speed, or he was far below the speed that the Heralds of Galactus are capable of moving at. He was moving in space, what was stopping him from moving at speeds that they are all able to move at? Don't answer because I know that you don't know. You may have an answer, but it won't prove anything.

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Superman gets slapped out by Helspont, and it was because he wasn't ready, or he was weakened, or he let him do this to him, or he... There is always an excuse.

Grodd was capable of compromising Superman's mind, it doesn't matter what the circumstances were, and what is your excuse? Superman wasn't whistling, or Superman wasn't ready, or Superman.... There is always an excuse.

Superman is defeated by an assassin that resembled the Predator from movies, So what was your excuse? He wasn't ready, or he was weak, or it was due to plot, or something other than what was shown on panel. I don't see Thanos having a problem with this level of foe.

Meanwhile Thanos has never been punched out in all of his history of being on panel, and he has gone up against guys more powerful than Superman, like Odin, Tyrant, Galactus, Magus with IG that would outright murder stomp Superman. When Darkseid was handing out the ass-whip cards, what was Superman doing? Yeah that's right, he was taking an ass whipping. Your excuse will be because Superman was weakened or Superman wasn't trying, or it was plot, or he wasn't ready.

You have Superman punching Thanos out, but yet this has never happened on panel to Thanos by the likes of someone on Superman's level, and yet you want people to believe that he is going to beat Thanos? What does Superman do when Thanos puts up shields capable of holding the Champion with the Power Gem off ? What stops Thanos from turning those shields around on Superman and encasing him in them like the rest of his team here?

You are the one that needs to prove that Superman can take him out, because he doesn't have all of these poor showings for you to state anything aside from his track record being far better than Superman's.

If there are two horses in a race, but one of them has a spotless record, while the other has lost 4-5 times, which one are you going to bet on? Thanos has even been around longer than DCnU Superman, and he still has a better record than Superman.

You said that Superman is more versatile than Thanos. In what way is this?

Let's look at them both.

Superman - flight, x-ray vision, super hearing, telescopic sight, super speed, super durability, super strength, freeze breath. heat ray vision.
Weaknesses - magic, telepathy, Kryptonite.

Thanos - super strength, super durability, telepathy, mysticism, self amplification, immortality, energy manipulation/projection, matter manipulation, force cube/field technology, eye blasts.
Weaknesses - No known weaknesses.

So how is Superman more versatile? How well would Superman do against Odin. or Tyrant? Oh wait that's right, you believe that Superman is above Tyrant, and Odin, despite him being beaten by far less. When did DCnU Superman resist TP?

Originally posted by Stoic
The problem h1, is that arguing with you is futile, because even when people show you on panel evidence you find a way of turning it around, and downplaying it to something below what Superman is capable of without having any reason that should allow you to do these idiotic things. You basically have no proof. People show Thanos dealing with a blitz from the Fallen One, so you say that the Fallen One wasn't moving at Superman's speed, or he was far below the speed that the Heralds of Galactus are capable of moving at. He was moving in space, what was stopping him from moving at speeds that they are all able to move at? Don't answer because I know that you don't know. You may have an answer, but it won't prove anything.

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Superman gets slapped out by Helspont, and it was because he wasn't ready, or he was weakened, or he let him do this to him, or he... There is always an excuse.

Grodd was capable of compromising Superman's mind, it doesn't matter what the circumstances were, and what is your excuse? Superman wasn't whistling, or Superman wasn't ready, or Superman.... There is always an excuse.

Superman is defeated by an assassin that resembled the Predator from movies, So what was your excuse? He wasn't ready, or he was weak, or it was due to plot, or something other than what was shown on panel. I don't see Thanos having a problem with this level of foe.

Meanwhile Thanos has never been punched out in all of his history of being on panel, and he has gone up against guys more powerful than Superman, like Odin, Tyrant, Galactus, Magus with IG that would outright murder stomp Superman. When Darkseid was handing out the ass-whip cards, what was Superman doing? Yeah that's right, he was taking an ass whipping. Your excuse will be because Superman was weakened or Superman wasn't trying, or it was plot, or he wasn't ready.

You have Superman punching Thanos out, but yet this has never happened on panel to Thanos by the likes of someone on Superman's level, and yet you want people to believe that he is going to beat Thanos? What does Superman do when Thanos puts up shields capable of holding the Champion with the Power Gem off ? What stops Thanos from turning those shields around on Superman and encasing him in them like the rest of his team here?

You are the one that needs to prove that Superman can take him out, because he doesn't have all of these poor showings for you to state anything aside from his track record being far better than Superman's.

If there are two horses in a race, but one of them has a spotless record, while the other has lost 4-5 times, which one are you going to bet on? Thanos has even been around longer than DCnU Superman, and he still has a better record than Superman.

You said that Superman is more versatile than Thanos. In what way is this?

Let's look at them both.

Superman - flight, x-ray vision, super hearing, telescopic sight, super speed, super durability, super strength, freeze breath. heat ray vision.
Weaknesses - magic, telepathy, Kryptonite.

Thanos - super strength, super durability, telepathy, mysticism, self amplification, immortality, energy manipulation/projection, matter manipulation, force cube/field technology, eye blasts.
Weaknesses - No known weaknesses.

So how is Superman more versatile? How well would Superman do against Odin. or Tyrant? Oh wait that's right, you believe that Superman is above Tyrant, and Odin, despite him being beaten by far less. When did DCnU Superman resist TP?

You can lowball Superman all you want it still doesn't change what will happen to Thanos by Superman. Superman is vastly faster than Thanos. Superman, if he truly wanted to, would see Thanos as a frozen statue. There is no getting around that argument. Superman can literally move more than 5 ft before Thanos moves an inch.

Also, please refrain from the classic lowball highball trolling tactic. Listing Superman's lowest showings and Thanos highest ones in order to deceive readers.

Thanos has never fought Superman. Fighting Odin, Tyrant, etc. is irrelevant because they don't have Superman's abilities. And Thanos lost all those times. So how are those feats? Do you think Thanos is faster than Spider-man, Wolverine, Gamora? If you don't think so then wtf are you arguing with me that Thanos is nearly as fast as Superman?

If Thanos puts his shields up then he can't attack. He has to release them and when he does it is over. Superman also can crumble his shields after some blows. And yes Superman is much stronger than Champion with the PG in that arc (but not potentially).

Your logic is very flawed. Track record means absolutely nothing. It's all about what each character brings to the table, their unique styles and power sets. A lower character can easily beat a higher one if his power set/style perfectly matches up with the other.

If these two characters actually existed then do you think that Thanos would actually would win when he is a statue?

Lastly Superman is more versatile because he is shown to be. Thanos blasts and punches, with the occasional shield. Superman uses speed, hv, freeze breath, intangibility, etc.

Originally posted by Supermex
Can a mod step in a help out with this?
For a ruling on this..

Low balling Thanos for one and Superman being used as if he
Is Odin level..

Just so we can move on with what is supposed to be a team fight.

Quote one post where someone low balled Thanos. No one is lowballing him at all. All of his highest feats count and will be used as what he would bring here.

Levels are meaningless. It's all about how a character matches up with another.
Lower characters have and can beat higher ones if their style and powerset matches well. This is common sense. ABC logic is not always valid. Sometimes we get the rock, paper, scissors effect.

Originally posted by h1a8
Quote one post where someone low balled Thanos. No one is lowballing him at all. All of his highest feats count and will be used as what he would bring here.

Levels are meaningless. It's all about how a character matches up with another.
Lower characters have and can beat higher ones if their style and powerset matches well. This is common sense. ABC logic is not always valid. Sometimes we get the rock, paper, scissors effect.

Sorry H1 but you been low-balling Thanos a week on this thread..
Saying Superman can fight him/beat him one on one.. That's low-balling right there alone!

This is a team fight. Most here are saying its going to take the whole team to work together to beat or even have a chance to beat Thanos. Yet ur claiming it only takes Superman to do the job.
That's been your stand for a week almost on this fight, even thou feats have been posted to show how possible it is for Thanos to
Break Superman in half if he wish to..

Superman needs all the help he is getting here from his teammates
To get the job done if its even enough..

Heck I wish Hulk could beat Thanos one on one to!! But I know its not really possible..

Originally posted by Supermex
Heck I wish Hulk could beat Thanos one on one to!! But I know its not really possible..

Superman is significantly more versatile and powerful than the Hulk so the 2 aren't comprable.

The notion that Thanos "Can break Superman in half" is asinine at best.

Quan, Bran, you or whatever Thanos fan would like to defend that claim I'll be more than happy to debate them.

Originally posted by Supermex
Sorry H1 but you been low-balling Thanos a week on this thread..
Saying Superman can fight him/beat him one on one.. That's low-balling right there alone!

This is a team fight. Most here are saying its going to take the whole team to work together to beat or even have a chance to beat Thanos. Yet ur claiming it only takes Superman to do the job.
That's been your stand for a week almost on this fight, even thou feats have been posted to show how possible it is for Thanos to
Break Superman in half if he wish to..

Superman needs all the help he is getting here from his teammates
To get the job done if its even enough..

Heck I wish Hulk could beat Thanos one on one to!! But I know its not really possible..

To say that a certain character can beat Thanos is not lowballing, especially if that character beat Darkseid who is arguable more powerful than Thanos. So stop backseat modding and behave, boy.

I think H1 (and a few others) fail to realize that writers that give Supes the auto win are not involved in forum fights. Also stupid writing ( the feats H1 sees as high end going all out superman ) doesn't really fly here either.

Its impossible to argue & debate with him because of this and because in his heart he thinks that is the real non holding back superman.

Thats like me thinking the real non holding back spiderman can defeat heralds because of constant dumb writing.

Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
To say that a certain character can beat Thanos is not lowballing, especially if that character beat Darkseid who is arguable more powerful than Thanos. So stop backseat modding and behave, boy.

Its superman!
If the writers want him to beat the presence you bet Supes will win somehow. Even if its stupid writing.

Originally posted by Inhuman
I think H1 (and a few others) fails to realize that writers that give Supes the auto win are not involved in forum fights. Also stupid writing ( the feats H1 sees as high end going all out superman ) doesn't really fly here either.

Its impossible to argue & debate with him because of this and because in his heart he thinks that is the real non holding back superman.

Thats like me thinking the real non holding back spiderman can defeat heralds because of constant dumb writing.

Its superman. if the writers want him to beat the presence you bet Supes will win somehow. Even if its stupid writing.

Thank you Inhuman🙂
So agree with you. Its kool H1 feel strong about Superman and all but yes your right about what Superman were using here.

Also H1 just to note I never tried to get you banned. Someone accused me of it can't remember the name but it was not about banning ..

Inhume put it the way is it..
My view on it anyways🙂

Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
To say that a certain character can beat Thanos is not lowballing, especially if that character beat Darkseid who is arguable more powerful than Thanos. So stop backseat modding and behave, boy.

Originally posted by Inhuman
I think H1 (and a few others) fail to realize that writers that give Supes the auto win are not involved in forum fights. Also stupid writing ( the feats H1 sees as high end going all out superman ) doesn't really fly here either.

Its impossible to argue & debate with him because of this and because in his heart he thinks that is the real non holding back superman.

Thats like me thinking the real non holding back spiderman can defeat heralds because of constant dumb writing.

Its superman!
If the writers want him to beat the presence you bet Supes will win somehow. Even if its stupid writing.

With that said, I give Superman the win over Thanos because he is insanely faster. Only a dumb plot stupid Superman (the one where his power of speed and reflexes are ignored and fights at the same speed as the slower character) will lose to Thanos.

Originally posted by Insane Titan
he not more powerful at all and he's far less durable than Thanos

Originally posted by Supermex
Sorry H1 but you been low-balling Thanos a week on this thread..
Saying Superman can fight him/beat him one on one.. That's low-balling right there alone!

This is a team fight. Most here are saying its going to take the whole team to work together to beat or even have a chance to beat Thanos. Yet ur claiming it only takes Superman to do the job.
That's been your stand for a week almost on this fight, even thou feats have been posted to show how possible it is for Thanos to
Break Superman in half if he wish to..

Superman needs all the help he is getting here from his teammates
To get the job done if its even enough..

Heck I wish Hulk could beat Thanos one on one to!! But I know its not really possible..

You disagree because you're a troll that just only wishes to lowball Thanos and you base you're opinion off nothing .....so stfu.

Gladiator is faster than Thanos, does this mean that he would beat him? According to his best speed feats, he was moving faster than Superman, and it took a time dilation device to keep up with him. Does this mean that he would beat Superman as well?

Originally posted by Stoic
Gladiator is faster than Thanos, does this mean that he would beat him? According to his best speed feats, he was moving faster than Superman, and it took a time dilation device to keep up with him. Does this mean that he would beat Superman as well?

Gladiator is faster and stronger than Thanos. I agree.

Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
Gladiator is faster and stronger than Thanos. I agree.

H1.. I have a challenge for you.. Please post all the times Thanos has been KO'd by blunt force trauma? I'm going to be anxiously for this.. Because ya know.. You act like Thanos is better again Energy attacks than Blunt force.. and while THanos is uber against energy attacks.. I can't recall ONE TIME.. not ONCE that Thanos was KO'd via blunt force Trauma.... He's taken shots from Odin (read the fight.. Odin did physically hit him).. Tyrant... He's got hit by Magus with the IG... PG Thor... Hulk etc etc and Never been KO'd.. All the Avengers and Guardians of the Galaxy pounding on him couldn't KO him... So really, one could easily make the argument he's better against blunt force trauma than Energy (he has been Ko'd 2 times via energy) and he's beastly against energy. Learn these characters h1 before debating.

Tired of these paragraphs of soft shit...

Those guys all sound like Goofball names who get cosplayed...

Thanos snaps their shit up like he did in cancerverse

Thanos 8/10