Re: Re: .... Six -Vs- Thanos .....
Originally posted by h1a8
Another hidden thread to convince people that Thanos is above Superman. For the millionth time, Superman would stomp Thanos solo. He's stronger, faster, more mobile, and almost as durable.Speed alone proves the win.
No he isn't because Thanos has beaten thor many times and superman is the same level as thor
Re: Re: Re: .... Six -Vs- Thanos .....
Originally posted by TedKordJRBOSSLevels don't mean anything. That's faulty ABC logic. It's all about how a characters matches up with another. Lower level characters can beat higher level ones if their powerset/style matches up well. Sometimes it is more of a rock paper scissors thing.
No he isn't because Thanos has beaten thor many times and superman is the same level as thor
Superman would beat Thanos mostly because he has a great speed advantage. A massive speed advantage is equivalent to stopping time.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
H1.. I have a challenge for you.. Please post all the times Thanos has been KO'd by blunt force trauma? I'm going to be anxiously for this.. Because ya know.. You act like Thanos is better again Energy attacks than Blunt force.. and while THanos is uber against energy attacks.. I can't recall ONE TIME.. not ONCE that Thanos was KO'd via blunt force Trauma.... He's taken shots from Odin (read the fight.. Odin did physically hit him).. Tyrant... He's got hit by Magus with the IG... PG Thor... Hulk etc etc and Never been KO'd.. All the Avengers and Guardians of the Galaxy pounding on him couldn't KO him... So really, one could easily make the argument he's better against blunt force trauma than Energy (he has been Ko'd 2 times via energy) and he's beastly against energy. Learn these characters h1 before debating.
You challenge is irrelevant. Thanos doesn't have to be koed in order to prove that he can. If he has shown to be affected by blunt force trauma by herald level beings then he can be koed after sufficient hits.
Although I would argue Superman is stronger than Odin by feats, Odin never struck Thanos physically. He simply waved his hand with a gesture and a wave of energy struck Thanos, knocking him back. Tyrant struck Thanos (off panel) but again Thanos was affected. So how is that a feat? Thanos was affected by Magus too. So again how is that a feat? PG Thor affected Thanos, so how is that a feat. Also you can't assign more than 2x strength to PG Thor without proof.
Most of the avengers are weak as hell. He shouldn't have felt anything from some of their hits. That was a showing you do not want to use as it supports Thanos having shitting durability.
Thanos energy durability trumps his blunt durability by a lot.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
H1.. I have a challenge for you.. Please post all the times Thanos has been KO'd by blunt force trauma? I'm going to be anxiously for this.. Because ya know.. You act like Thanos is better again Energy attacks than Blunt force.. and while THanos is uber against energy attacks.. I can't recall ONE TIME.. not ONCE that Thanos was KO'd via blunt force Trauma.... He's taken shots from Odin (read the fight.. Odin did physically hit him).. Tyrant... He's got hit by Magus with the IG... PG Thor... Hulk etc etc and Never been KO'd.. All the Avengers and Guardians of the Galaxy pounding on him couldn't KO him... So really, one could easily make the argument he's better against blunt force trauma than Energy (he has been Ko'd 2 times via energy) and he's beastly against energy. Learn these characters h1 before debating.
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You challenge is irrelevant. Thanos doesn't have to be koed in order to prove that he can. If he has shown to be affected by blunt force trauma by herald level beings then he can be koed after sufficient hits.
Although I would argue Superman is stronger than Odin by feats, Odin never struck Thanos physically. He simply waved his hand with a gesture and a wave of energy struck Thanos, knocking him back. Tyrant struck Thanos (off panel) but again Thanos was affected. So how is that a feat? Thanos was affected by Magus too. So again how is that a feat? PG Thor affected Thanos, so how is that a feat. Also you can't assign more than 2x strength to PG Thor without proof.
Most of the avengers are weak as hell. He shouldn't have felt anything from some of their hits. That was a showing you do not want to use as it supports Thanos having shitting durability.
Thanos energy durability trumps his blunt durability by a lot.
Re: Re: Re: Re: .... Six -Vs- Thanos .....
Originally posted by h1a8
Levels don't mean anything. That's faulty ABC logic. It's all about how a characters matches up with another. Lower level characters can beat higher level ones if their powerset/style matches up well. Sometimes it is more of a rock paper scissors thing.Superman would beat Thanos mostly because he has a great speed advantage. A massive speed advantage is equivalent to stopping time.
You challenge is irrelevant. Thanos doesn't have to be koed in order to prove that he can. If he has shown to be affected by blunt force trauma by herald level beings then he can be koed after sufficient hits.
Although I would argue Superman is stronger than Odin by feats, Odin never struck Thanos physically. He simply waved his hand with a gesture and a wave of energy struck Thanos, knocking him back. Tyrant struck Thanos (off panel) but again Thanos was affected. So how is that a feat? Thanos was affected by Magus too. So again how is that a feat? PG Thor affected Thanos, so how is that a feat. Also you can't assign more than 2x strength to PG Thor without proof.
Most of the avengers are weak as hell. He shouldn't have felt anything from some of their hits. That was a showing you do not want to use as it supports Thanos having shitting durability.
Thanos energy durability trumps his blunt durability by a lot.
H1 your going circles on this bud..
This forums has rules set in place that goes by feats and levels that have been set in place awhile ago..
Your arguing like this is CBR and only speed blitz wins train of thought..
Originally posted by h1a8
You challenge is irrelevant. Thanos doesn't have to be koed in order to prove that he can. If he has shown to be affected by blunt force trauma by herald level beings then he can be koed after sufficient hits.Although I would argue Superman is stronger than Odin by feats, Odin never struck Thanos physically. He simply waved his hand with a gesture and a wave of energy struck Thanos, knocking him back. Tyrant struck Thanos (off panel) but again Thanos was affected. So how is that a feat? Thanos was affected by Magus too. So again how is that a feat? PG Thor affected Thanos, so how is that a feat. Also you can't assign more than 2x strength to PG Thor without proof.
Most of the avengers are weak as hell. He shouldn't have felt anything from some of their hits. That was a showing you do not want to use as it supports Thanos having shitting durability.
Thanos energy durability trumps his blunt durability by a lot.
It actually very much matters.. Who gives a flying **** if a hit has effected him.. that has nothing to do with anything. Energy blasts have been shown to effect him you moron. He's been KO'd by them.. that is more effecting done to thanos than any blunt force attack has even been shown to do. Even beyond those.. regular blasts have effected him without KOing him.. so again what's your point. I know you're a bit slow but this is even bad for you. Please tell me how you say blunt force has effected him and thus he's weaker to that.. even though energy blasts have affected him and he's been KO'd by them.. That is beyond idiotic. Either post the times he's been KO'd by blunt force trauma or concede he's been affected more via energy blasts.
Odin didn't wave his hand of energy... He hit Thanos with his hand clownshoes. It didn't KO him at all.. Neither did PG Thor who was way more powerful than Superman. As was Magus with the IG.. which again didn't KO him and is exponentially more powerful than superman. None of that KO'd him.. yet I'm suppose to believe somebody vastly weaker than Odin... Tyrant .. PG Thor and Magus is going to KO him.. hilarious lol
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
It actually very much matters.. Who gives a flying **** if a hit has effected him.. that has nothing to do with anything. Energy blasts have been shown to effect him you moron. He's been KO'd by them.. that is more effecting done to thanos than any blunt force attack has even been shown to do. Even beyond those.. regular blasts have effected him without KOing him.. so again what's your point. I know you're a bit slow but this is even bad for you. Please tell me how you say blunt force has effected him and thus he's weaker to that.. even though energy blasts have affected him and he's been KO'd by them.. That is beyond idiotic. Either post the times he's been KO'd by blunt force trauma or concede he's been affected more via energy blasts.Odin didn't wave his hand of energy... He hit Thanos with his hand clownshoes. It didn't KO him at all.. Neither did PG Thor who was way more powerful than Superman. As was Magus with the IG.. which again didn't KO him and is exponentially more powerful than superman. None of that KO'd him.. yet I'm suppose to believe somebody vastly weaker than Odin... Tyrant .. PG Thor and Magus is going to KO him.. hilarious lol
Don't bother, this is going to just turn into a circular debate, that you have to keep telling him these things, but he will somehow ignore them. In h1a8's opinion, the things that you mentioned are not really feats, because he can't seem to come to the realization, that surviving Tyrant, and Odin are huge feats alone. I recall Hardcore Station where Superman and a group of characters had a hard time with a weak version of Synnar.
Synnar in that arc may not have even been as powerful as Tyrant, and he was having his way with Superman, Orion, J'onn, and a couple of other characters. Then again maybe Superman was holding back against Synnar, or he was weakened, I mean shouldn't he have beaten the hell out of Synnar since he's faster than him?
Originally posted by StoicIn reality, Glads should beat Thanos as well.
Gladiator is faster than Thanos, does this mean that he would beat him? According to his best speed feats, he was moving faster than Superman, and it took a time dilation device to keep up with him. Does this mean that he would beat Superman as well?
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
It actually very much matters.. Who gives a flying **** if a hit has effected him.. that has nothing to do with anything. Energy blasts have been shown to effect him you moron. He's been KO'd by them.. that is more effecting done to thanos than any blunt force attack has even been shown to do. Even beyond those.. regular blasts have effected him without KOing him.. so again what's your point. I know you're a bit slow but this is even bad for you. Please tell me how you say blunt force has effected him and thus he's weaker to that.. even though energy blasts have affected him and he's been KO'd by them.. That is beyond idiotic. Either post the times he's been KO'd by blunt force trauma or concede he's been affected more via energy blasts.Odin didn't wave his hand of energy... He hit Thanos with his hand clownshoes. It didn't KO him at all.. Neither did PG Thor who was way more powerful than Superman. As was Magus with the IG.. which again didn't KO him and is exponentially more powerful than superman. None of that KO'd him.. yet I'm suppose to believe somebody vastly weaker than Odin... Tyrant .. PG Thor and Magus is going to KO him.. hilarious lol
Please stop trolling with lies. Odin hit Thanos with a wave of energy AS SHOWN. It was casual to. So how in the hell you equate that to being punched in the face with a haymaker?
Originally posted by SupermexI never once mentioned speed blitz, although it is a viable option. I'm arguing speed in general. Levels mean shit when a character has the tools to beat another. There is no logic or sense in arguing levels as who wins. I'm all about logic, as we all should be. Otherwise, everything is meaningless.
H1 your going circles on this bud..
This forums has rules set in place that goes by feats and levels that have been set in place awhile ago..Your arguing like this is CBR and only speed blitz wins train of thought..
Originally posted by StoicSurving Tyrant and Odin are feats but not great ones. 99% of the time lower characters survive Skyfather level beings and above. But it's all irrelevant since surviving isn't enough to not lose to Superman. Superman will affect Thanos greatly with his attacks. That's all that matters. Lowballing or stating irrelevant things (Synnar) is not going to change that.
Don't bother, this is going to just turn into a circular debate, that you have to keep telling him these things, but he will somehow ignore them. In h1a8's opinion, the things that you mentioned are not really feats, because he can't seem to come to the realization, that surviving Tyrant, and Odin are huge feats alone. I recall Hardcore Station where Superman and a group of characters had a hard time with a weak version of Synnar.Synnar in that arc may not have even been as powerful as Tyrant, and he was having his way with Superman, Orion, J'onn, and a couple of other characters. Then again maybe Superman was holding back against Synnar, or he was weakened, I mean shouldn't he have beaten the hell out of Synnar since he's faster than him?
Originally posted by h1a8
He's weaker to blunt force because blunt force attacks by heralds actually effect Thanos. Energy blasts by heralds don't usually effect Thanos. Get it?Please stop trolling with lies. Odin hit Thanos with a wave of energy AS SHOWN. It was casual to. So how in the hell you equate that to being punched in the face with a haymaker?
I never once mentioned speed blitz, although it is a viable option. I'm arguing speed in general. Levels mean shit when a character has the tools to beat another. There is no logic or sense in arguing levels as who wins. I'm all about logic, as we all should be. Otherwise, everything is meaningless.
Surving Tyrant and Odin are feats but not great ones. 99% of the time lower characters survive Skyfather level beings and above. But it's all irrelevant since surviving isn't enough to not lose to Superman. Superman will affect Thanos greatly with his attacks. That's all that matters. Lowballing or stating irrelevant things (Synnar) is not going to change that.
He's been KO'd by energy he hasn't been by blunt force.. what is so hard to understand about this clownshoes? That destroys the premise that he's weaker to blunt force trauma. Herald level energy blasts have also affected him.. so now what?
Odin HIT HIM.. the scan shows Odin's hand AFTER he already struck Thanos with it with energy... It wasn't a wave of his hand.. he backhanded him.
Originally posted by KuRuPT ThanosiHe's been koed by higher than herald level energy. I don't recall when herald level energy really affected him.
He's been KO'd by energy he hasn't been by blunt force.. what is so hard to understand about this clownshoes? That destroys the premise that he's weaker to blunt force trauma. Herald level energy blasts have also affected him.. so now what?Odin HIT HIM.. the scan shows Odin's hand AFTER he already struck Thanos with it with energy... It wasn't a wave of his hand.. he backhanded him.
So koed by trans or skyfather level beings.
No affected by herald's energy blasts.
Always affected by herald's blunt attacks.
Thus he's weaker against blunt force attacks.
Lol, you are foolish to think I can be fooled. I have the comic in front of me. A wave of energy strikes Thanos. Now you can argue, lol, that a piece of Odin's hand touched Thanos. But who the phuck cares. Even if Odin backhanded him without any energy displayed then it wouldn't be a feat. A Superman punch>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A Odin backhand. Anyone and there mommy can take a Odin backhand, even Spider-man.
Originally posted by h1a8
In reality, Glads should beat Thanos as well.
Glads never moved faster than Superman. Glads best feats are in the nanosecond range. Superman's have effortlessly walked, thought, and talked between nanoseconds.
When has DCnU Superman done any of those things? In this new reality, he isn't even with Lois, he's with Diana. As far as I'm concerned this is not the same Superman at all, neither is it the same Black Adam, Captain Marvel, Lobo, Superboy... The list goes on and on. What you seem to be doing is giving this new Superman the old feats that belong to pre Flash Superman, and many people are convinced that even that Superman would lose to Thanos. In other words you need to take time, and think about what it is that you are typing. Speed alone is not going to win this. Superman has not shown the ability to hit harder than the Magus could when he had the Infinity Gauntlet, and this didn't even KO Thanos.
You can try to argue that what you're writing is logical, but it isn't until you include all of the angles, which you clearly have not. Now going back to my thoughts on speed not being enough means that if it did, Pietro (Quick Silver) would beat Thanos, he can not, nor would Makkari be able to pull this off. Gladiator will not beat Thanos either. These guys lack the power to defeat Thanos when you realize that an Infinity Gauntlet user was unable to even KO him. Then he goes and takes an amplification for himself when he destroyed, and absorbed his doppelganger. Now hopefully you will stay on track, now that you realize that you can't give the current Superman, pre flashpoint Superman's feats.
Originally posted by StoicI was arguing Pre Superman. Ok. I'll research DcNU Superman speed feats. If they can't match Glad's nanosecond ones with Hyperion then I concede that Gladiator beats him. I don't have a problem with that since I'm really a fan of speed. Superman just happen to have speed. If Thor had the same speed as Superman I would say he beats Superman 10/10. That proves I'm not voting for Superman because I'm a diehard fan (like abhi) but only because I love his speed. So never think that I'm biased towards Superman in general.
When has DCnU Superman done any of those things? In this new reality, he isn't even with Lois, he's with Diana. As far as I'm concerned this is not the same Superman at all, neither is it the same Black Adam, Captain Marvel, Lobo, Superboy... The list goes on and on. What you seem to be doing is giving this new Superman the old feats that belong to pre Flash Superman, and many people are convinced that even that Superman would lose to Thanos. In other words you need to take time, and think about what it is that you are typing. Speed alone is not going to win this. Superman has not shown the ability to hit harder than the Magus could when he had the Infinity Gauntlet, and this didn't even KO Thanos.You can try to argue that what you're writing is logical, but it isn't until you include all of the angles, which you clearly have not. Now going back to my thoughts on speed not being enough means that if it did, Pietro (Quick Silver) would beat Thanos, he can not, nor would Makkari be able to pull this off. Gladiator will not beat Thanos either. These guys lack the power to defeat Thanos when you realize that an Infinity Gauntlet user was unable to even KO him. Then he goes and takes an amplification for himself when he destroyed, and absorbed his doppelganger. Now hopefully you will stay on track, now that you realize that you can't give the current Superman, pre flashpoint Superman's feats.
I never claimed Superman would one shot Thanos. That's crazy. So Magus not koing him a couple of hits doesn't mean Superman can't in a dozen hits or more. Thanos was seriously affected by Magus. And Magus held back because he wanted Thanos to admit something.
To win by speed, one needs the power output to affect. Quicksilver can't affect Thanos at all and possibly Makkari.
We go by feats. If a character is shown to be affected by heralds blunt force attacks and never once in his life no sold a herald level attack then it's irrelevant of what he's absorbed. He can be affected by herald level blunt force attacks. Showings>>>>>>>>>everything. Otherwise, Sentry has the power of a million exploding Suns. He can one shot kill Thanos if he wanted to.
I don't have read all of Thanos comics and I have no idea if this was retcon or if he had some power ups ever since.
But Captain Marvel was overwhelming Thanos with speed and strength to the point that the narration says that is wearing Thanos down.
Now this is one instance as far as I know but if We take ALL of his showing vs speed I believe he has more showings where it suggest that Thanos will have a hard time dealing with Super speed.
Like I said this is based on what I have read so far about him. Just giving my five cents
Originally posted by h1a8
I was arguing Pre Superman. Ok. I'll research DcNU Superman speed feats. If they can't match Glad's nanosecond ones with Hyperion then I concede that Gladiator beats him. I don't have a problem with that since I'm really a fan of speed. Superman just happen to have speed. If Thor had the same speed as Superman I would say he beats Superman 10/10. That proves I'm not voting for Superman because I'm a diehard fan (like abhi) but only because I love his speed. So never think that I'm biased towards Superman in general.I never claimed Superman would one shot Thanos. That's crazy. So Magus not koing him a couple of hits doesn't mean Superman can't in a dozen hits or more. Thanos was seriously affected by Magus. And Magus held back because he wanted Thanos to admit something.
To win by speed, one needs the power output to affect. Quicksilver can't affect Thanos at all and possibly Makkari.
We go by feats. If a character is shown to be affected by heralds blunt force attacks and never once in his life no sold a herald level attack then it's irrelevant of what he's absorbed. He can be affected by herald level blunt force attacks. Showings>>>>>>>>>everything. Otherwise, Sentry has the power of a million exploding Suns. He can one shot kill Thanos if he wanted to.
Okay, most of the things that you just stated are irrelevant. The only thing that you said that I have not omitted, was you saying that you will have to research the Superman being used in the OP. The rest is all speculation, to being outright false. Superman is not going to hurt a guy that was hit by an Infinity Gauntlet user to the point of KOing him. You tend to argue that we have to use a characters best feats, but then contradict these statements by saying that High Herald's affect Thanos. Superman hits hard as hell, I will not be the one to say that he does not, so does Thor, but this does not give me the right to say that they are going to be taking a guy out that took a hit from a multiversal power without being KO'd. Why? Because they don't possess that amount of power.
You go on about Superman hitting Thanos uninterrupted, but Thanos has shields that he can erect, as well as turn outwards. Will this slow Superman down? Of course it will, because less has. Thanos also possess mystical powers, and TP, this would slow Superman down as well.. in fact it would slow him down enough to allow him to hit Superman as well. Can Thanos hurt Superman with his blows? Of course he can. When does Thanos use all of these exotics on panel? Well as often as Superman uses his exotic powers. The point here is that they have these powers, and they can use them. I mean who are we to say that they can't use powers that they possess? We can't is the answer. We are just the consumers that read these fictitious stories.
Originally posted by Rao Kal El
I don't have read all of Thanos comics and I have no idea if this was retcon or if he had some power ups ever since.But Captain Marvel was overwhelming Thanos with speed and strength to the point that the narration says that is wearing Thanos down.
Now this is one instance as far as I know but if We take ALL of his showing vs speed I believe he has more showings where it suggest that Thanos will have a hard time dealing with Super speed.
Like I said this is based on what I have read so far about him. Just giving my five cents
That is pre death Thanos, a much weaker version than the current one. Thanos has gotten a few power ups since the 70's Rao. If you also take note, even that weak version of Thanos was unaffected by the sneak attack. Captain Mar-Vell also has/had cosmic awareness which was often referenced when he was alive. This is a danger sense much like Spider Man's.
Originally posted by Stoic
Okay, most of the things that you just stated are irrelevant. The only thing that you said that I have not omitted, was you saying that you will have to research the Superman being used in the OP. The rest is all speculation, to being outright false. Superman is not going to hurt a guy that was hit by an Infinity Gauntlet user to the point of KOing him. You tend to argue that we have to use a characters best feats, but then contradict these statements by saying that High Herald's affect Thanos. Superman hits hard as hell, I will not be the one to say that he does not, so does Thor, but this does not give me the right to say that they are going to be taking a guy out that took a hit from a multiversal power without being KO'd. Why? Because they don't possess that amount of power.You go on about Superman hitting Thanos uninterrupted, but Thanos has shields that he can erect, as well as turn outwards. Will this slow Superman down? Of course it will, because less has. Thanos also possess mystical powers, and TP, this would slow Superman down as well.. in fact it would slow him down enough to allow him to hit Superman as well. Can Thanos hurt Superman with his blows? Of course he can. When does Thanos use all of these exotics on panel? Well as often as Superman uses his exotic powers. The point here is that they have these powers, and they can use them. I mean who are we to say that they can't use powers that they possess? We can't is the answer. We are just the consumers that read these fictitious stories.
How do you know how hard Magus hit Thanos? Did he use 1000 tons of force, 1 million? You don't know. All we know is that Magus WAS HOLDING BACK.
So it is a non feat really. I see Superman, Thor, etc. taking the same hit with nearly the same effect.
Thanos being affected is not a feat. It actually hurts Thanos, not helps him. Assuming that holding back Magus was hitting harder than Superman can possibly hit then that doesn't mean Superman can't ko Thanos. It will just take more hits that's all. Superman has the speed to do so. Superman bench pressed the Earth easily for 5 days and ripped DD in half. It's fair to say he will rock the shit out of Thanos with his blows.
How would TP slow Superman down, when Superman can attack before Thanos even activates that power? And that's assuming that his TP will even affect Superman at all.
I'm never arguing that Thanos can't use exotic powers. I'm just arguing that you have to be fair to Superman as well. If Thanos will use TP then Superman blitzes his arse before his flinches.
Originally posted by h1a8
How do you know how hard Magus hit Thanos? Did he use 1000 tons of force, 1 million? You don't know. All we know is that Magus WAS HOLDING BACK.
So it is a non feat really. I see Superman, Thor, etc. taking the same hit with nearly the same effect.Thanos being affected is not a feat. It actually hurts Thanos, not helps him. Assuming that holding back Magus was hitting harder than Superman can possibly hit then that doesn't mean Superman can't ko Thanos. It will just take more hits that's all. Superman has the speed to do so. Superman bench pressed the Earth easily for 5 days and ripped DD in half. It's fair to say he will rock the shit out of Thanos with his blows.
How would TP slow Superman down, when Superman can attack before Thanos even activates that power? And that's assuming that his TP will even affect Superman at all.
I'm never arguing that Thanos can't use exotic powers. I'm just arguing that you have to be fair to Superman as well. If Thanos will use TP then Superman blitzes his arse before his flinches.
Superman could blitz, and he could run into a well placed containment force cube. Thanos did this to the Fallen One. This is something that we already covered. Thanos actually has on panel super speed hand movement. Unless when he grabbed the Thing, and swung him around causing a blurring effect wasn't canon. If it is canon, there is plenty of proof to state that he could raise his hand as fast as it would take for Superman to close the distance, and complete this blitz.
All that I am saying is that, if Thanos is able to trap Superman, he could then assault him with magic, and TP. This will be able to stop Superman. Magus had an incomplete Infinity Gauntlet, but he was still far more powerful than Superman. We know that a hit from the IG of that era was capable of completely fracturing Captain America's shield, which was something nearly unheard of at that time. You asking me to prove that Magus hit him with enough power to kill Superman, is like me asking you to prove that Superman would be able to successfully blitz Thanos. Or that if Superman launched a barrage against Thanos that it would be impossible for Thanos to counter the assault. Helspont was able to counter, why wouldn't Thanos be able to do the same? You seem to be dealing in absolutes, when all we have, and can work with are probabilities.
Based on what has been seen of Superman of the DCnU, he has done nothing to suggest that he would defeat Thanos. I however did see him get rocked by someone less powerful than Thanos, when Helspont easily defeated him. Helspont wasn't as fast as Superman, nor was it because Superman allowed himself to be hit. DCnU Superman does not possess cosmic awareness, or a spider sense, he can be hit, he has been hit, and he will be hit again, and it will happen when he fights guys slower than he is. Live with it, or don't, it doesn't mean that it won't happen again.
Lifting what was said to be the weight of the Earth for a week, while not actually seeing him lift a planet on panel seems a little suspect to me. i mean how strong was the metal, is there a metal in DCnU that could take the strain? I'm not going to attempt to nullify the feat because it was stated on panel, bu it seems pretty stupid to me in terms of how they decided to showcase the feat. Thanos has no lifting feats, because they have never written him in this simplistic light. However he shrugs off hits from guys that are Earth shakers, and Earth breakers.
DCnU Superman didn't do so well against DCnU Darkseid, he was actually taken out very early in the storyline/arc. Darkseid isn't a speedster, he was just able to take anything Superman could dish. It's the same principle with Thanos, and Quicksilver (just an example btw). Pietro is much faster, and he could hit Thanos many times, but what happens when Thanos launches an omnidirectional attack against him? Even a glancing hit would cool Pietro out. It isn't like Superman can read the future, he can't, nor can Pietro.
If Thanos is able to take one hit from the Magus with the IG, he could likey withstand a barrage from Superman until he was able to launch an assault of his own (based on implied power). You see I can understand Superman beating the mess out of a superior opponent that lacks the wits to use their power to the fullest, but when you talk about Thanos, you're talking about a character that is dangerous due to his mind, not his durability, or his power output. Thanos is more likely to play mental chess with the six of these guys than beat them fairly. When I think of Thanos I think of a really powerful Batman with no qualms against crossing the line. Doomsday is nothing compared to his original self. Not impressed. As for me having a lack of respect for Superman, this is not true. I like the character, I also like the Hulk, but he would never beat Thanos, unless we are talking about HOTM Hulk fighting him up close without any plot devices to get in the way. Even that is a maybe, because the current Thanos has yet to lose outside of some plot device.
Thanos is a plot character, you will likely never see him taking the short end of the stick, without extracting his own pound of flesh in exchange. He will always come out the winner (most likely), because of this. His track record speaks for itself. People compare Darkseid to Thanos, but Darkseid is a loser to be honest, he always loses (shrug). Thanos wins.
Originally posted by StoicHere's Thanos vs hundreds of Death's Legion showing hand speed:
Superman could blitz, and he could run into a well placed containment force cube. Thanos did this to the Fallen One. This is something that we already covered. Thanos actually has on panel super speed hand movement. Unless when he grabbed the Thing, and swung him around causing a blurring effect wasn't canon. If it is canon, there is plenty of proof to state that he could raise his hand as fast as it would take for Superman to close the distance, and complete this blitz.
Alhough about Fallen One. Here is how he always takes off.
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Thanos/Thanos11pg10.jpg
Teleportation falls far short, and hyperdrive would take up too much time:
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Thanos/Thanos12pg07.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Thanos/Thanos12pg08.jpg
And then of course Fallen One making said distance in a very short amount of time. In what at the most three pages of conversation?
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Thanos/Thanos12pg09.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Thanos/Thanos12pg12.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Thanos/Thanos12pg13.jpg
Thanos raised him arm and stopped him point blank, so naturally Fallen One is slow.