Khan Noonien Singh vs. Palpatine

Started by Psychotron93 pages

Originally posted by quanchi112
There is no evidence he is inferior to Sidious. That's just another baseless claim. A simple tk attack didn't defeat someone without super recovery abilities in darth maul.

No, since the same tactic was successful against Jango. Jango was done when his jet pack was damaged. He was a potent threat to mace with his equipment working. Mace with a saber bs Jango without his jetpack isn't fair.

They can amp their running speed not their fighting speed. Their reflexes are fast but they can still be beaten up by bounty hunters such as Cad Bane, Pre Vizsla, and Jango Fett. I already posted evidence of Jango firing more th a five shots and he doesn't fight at enhanced speeds. Neither do the clones yet they successfully murdered the majority of the Jedi.

Bs. Windu jumped away and benefited from the beasts disabling the jetpack. That wasn't something Windu caused on his own.

Yes, he did. Palpatine needed anakins aid.

He doesn't have to. He said he will now die thus making his intentions clear. What lightsaber did have on him ? He was going to kill him with force lightning which isn't powerful like a saber. He's an idiot I agree.

Nah. Yoda was ko'd while Luke was not.

He has to concentrate. We also see they have to maintain focus. Khan kills him.

Lol, Sidious had Maul and Savage at his mercy until he let them down to play with them. Sidious is just much more powerful. Deal with it.

How is it not fair? Jango lost his jet pack in the middle of the fight because his stupidity. His lack of awareness is a clear weakness.

A baseless assumption. Movement is movement. Sidious moved faster than Jedi Masters with enhanced reflexes could react. Clear super speed. Pre Vizsla lost to both Obi-Wan and Maul, he ain't shit. The fact that Mace moved at normal speeds, and not the enhanced speed we saw from Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon, shows just how little of a threat he considered Jango to be. Nice to see you're still ignoring the fact that clones literally outnumbered the Jedi a million to one and had to shoot them in the back. Classic trolling.

No, Mace simply had awareness of the battlefield, since he is a much better warrior thant Jango, whose retardation cost him his life.

Based on? Even while acting weak his lightning was hard for Mace to deal with.

Palpatine was torturing Luke for rejecting the Dark side, he wanted him to die slowly. Yoda has superior durability feats to Luke and was KOed just like Khan will be. Sidious keeps 2 lightsabers in his sleeves, in case you missed RotS or TCW.

Lol, when has Sidious ever needed to concentrate? This isn't ESB Luke who needed to focus to pull his lightsaber, this is Sidious, the guy who Force chokes niggas from another room, and tosses around senate pods casually. Khan is meat.

Originally posted by Psychotron
Lol, Sidious had Maul and Savage at his mercy until he let them down to play with them. Sidious is just much more powerful. Deal with it.

How is it not fair? Jango lost his jet pack in the middle of the fight because his stupidity. His lack of awareness is a clear weakness.

A baseless assumption. Movement is movement. Sidious moved faster than Jedi Masters with enhanced reflexes could react. Clear super speed. Pre Vizsla lost to both Obi-Wan and Maul, he ain't shit. The fact that Mace moved at normal speeds, and not the enhanced speed we saw from Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon, shows just how little of a threat he considered Jango to be. Nice to see you're still ignoring the fact that clones literally outnumbered the Jedi a million to one and had to shoot them in the back. Classic trolling.

No, Mace simply had awareness of the battlefield, since he is a much better warrior thant Jango, whose retardation cost him his life.

Based on? Even while acting weak his lightning was hard for Mace to deal with.

Palpatine was torturing Luke for rejecting the Dark side, he wanted him to die slowly. Yoda has superior durability feats to Luke and was KOed just like Khan will be. Sidious keeps 2 lightsabers in his sleeves, in case you missed RotS or TCW.

Lol, when has Sidious ever needed to concentrate? This isn't ESB Luke who needed to focus to pull his lightsaber, this is Sidious, the guy who Force chokes niggas from another room, and tosses around senate pods casually. Khan is meat.

That wasn't the point but let's go there. Palpatine was greater in skill and force power against two opponents with the same exact power set to a lesser degree. These guys neither possess the mental acumen, the weaponry, the cellular regeneration, nor the skill of Khan. Sidious is more powerful than these two but not Khan. Khan briught down Klingon ships with his Boolean gun.

It isn't fair because after he went for the saber the beast damaged his jetpack. Windu did not do so. Windu benefited from out outside help so that wasn't a fair one on one victory he earned on his own.

Yes, movement is movement but we are discussing saber movement which requires great skill. He was better than the Jedi he killed. He was not better than Windu. Windu stopped on his attacks when he killed the inferior Jedi. Windu was on his level. The ones who were not died. Hell, even oppress beat some Jedi prior to Dooku even trained him with relative ease. Why ? Because despite his lack of skill he was better than those shit Jedi. I wouldn't claim he blitzed them you fool.

Pre did not lose to Obi. Obi fled. Maul defeated him in a lengthy battle that tested both. We see they were a good matchup but the edge goes to maul. Maul has decimated Obi before and yet he did not decimate Pre. False. We never saw anyone else move at those speeds again. We actually see Obi in hot pursuit of grievous. Not once did he use his speed to even pursue yet we know how important grievous' death was. We also have never seen that speed in combat. Fighting speed is different than sprinting speed. I already told you why. We never saw a million shoot any Jedi. We see far less overwhelm and kill Jedi. Some Jedi stood there while they figured out they were about to be shot and yet didn't even draw their saber. It was pathetic in some situations.

Mace didn't have his lightsaber damaged by a beast. He was disarmed though. Jango was not portrayed as a retard in any capacity. I call Windu retarded for pausing and not killing Palpatine sooner. Jango lost a fight in which his equipment didn't work.

Mace dealt with the lightning and scarred Palpatine's face. Palpatine was at his mercy hence him feigning weakness to gain sympathy and manipulate Anakin.

He already tortured him and declared he will now die. Luke still walked away without a problem despite under the duress of the lighting for over ten seconds out to kill. No, as we see in the same exact situation Luke was not ko'd. Yoda was. Yoda also needs a cane to walk. Luke doesn't. Luke was also younger and in his prime. Yoda wasn't. Need I go ?

That's how the force users manipulate the force. Are you not familiar with how a force user manipulates the force ? Sidious would force choke safely from another room like a coward. Khan is the guy who takes on the starfleet singlehandedly. Palpatine is the guy who begs and tries to flee from single combat against peers.

Palpatine is dead meat.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
1. https://youtu.be/5_lJ9nnsbew liar obi was clear victor here liar.

2. Just power the emperor wouldn't really care about a 29 year age difference. Power is his only issue.

3. When does he ever mention age. He says young Skywalker because he is the punter Skywalker also there are two skywalkers so he wanted to distinguish. Vader isn't as old as dooku. Dooku was just a place holder and when vader became the true Darth vader he started to replace him with star killer Luke, yes all younger but they had the most raw power he could use. Of course he doesn't want someone who's basically can't go any further.

4. It apparently hurt like real lightning. Let's compromise on this. Let's agree until episode 7 is released the type of pain he received form the lightning is unknown but he did suffer injury.

5. No I'm not asking to you to prove the results of the illusion I'm asking you to prove would the illusion bolster sidious' abiltiies.

6. And I have brought more than you can chew.

7. Sidous has the force. Khans speed won't help him.

8. Jedi have force shields so your statement proves that Khna has no answer to the force, and will be subdued in short order.

9. If this is DE Sidious he can turn him into ash however if it's ROTJ he can still do so much.

1. Obi fled. Watch the clip, liar. Fleeing is forfeiting.
2. Then why would Palpatine mention age and power to Grievous. He cited two issues. I'm right and I have evidence. You ignoring it is your fanboyism.

3. To grievous in rots. Watch the films you fool. I never said Vader was as old as Dooku but Luke was younger and more powerful. Youth is always a factor considering beings who age and depreciate.

4. No one can tank real lightning continuously for over ten seconds and walk away from it. Force lightning isn't real lightning. He suffered no significant injury and he walked away like he was fine right after it was over. That's what we see. Period.

5. It did not occur. Sidious can't disappear so it did give him new abilities. Sidious also wasn't courageous enough to confront him in real life. Yoda had to come find the guy and he tried to jump away and flee. Coward. It was a fair fight.

6. You're choking on your own food, kiddo.

7. So ? Force users with the force can force choke each other. Khan has a gun that kills far quicker than the force. 🙂

8. Khan has a gun that brings down ships. What Jedi has ever blocked a laser blast with a force shield ?

9. Based on ?

Have you still not seen Into Darkness thus proving you're a troll.

Originally posted by quanchi112
That wasn't the point but let's go there. Palpatine was greater in skill and force power against two opponents with the same exact power set to a lesser degree. These guys neither possess the mental acumen, the weaponry, the cellular regeneration, nor the skill of Khan. Sidious is more powerful than these two but not Khan. Khan briught down Klingon ships with his Boolean gun.

It isn't fair because after he went for the saber the beast damaged his jetpack. Windu did not do so. Windu benefited from out outside help so that wasn't a fair one on one victory he earned on his own.

Yes, movement is movement but we are discussing saber movement which requires great skill. He was better than the Jedi he killed. He was not better than Windu. Windu stopped on his attacks when he killed the inferior Jedi. Windu was on his level. The ones who were not died. Hell, even oppress beat some Jedi prior to Dooku even trained him with relative ease. Why ? Because despite his lack of skill he was better than those shit Jedi. I wouldn't claim he blitzed them you fool.

Pre did not lose to Obi. Obi fled. Maul defeated him in a lengthy battle that tested both. We see they were a good matchup but the edge goes to maul. Maul has decimated Obi before and yet he did not decimate Pre. False. We never saw anyone else move at those speeds again. We actually see Obi in hot pursuit of grievous. Not once did he use his speed to even pursue yet we know how important grievous' death was. We also have never seen that speed in combat. Fighting speed is different than sprinting speed. I already told you why. We never saw a million shoot any Jedi. We see far less overwhelm and kill Jedi. Some Jedi stood there while they figured out they were about to be shot and yet didn't even draw their saber. It was pathetic in some situations.

Mace didn't have his lightsaber damaged by a beast. He was disarmed though. Jango was not portrayed as a retard in any capacity. I call Windu retarded for pausing and not killing Palpatine sooner. Jango lost a fight in which his equipment didn't work.

Mace dealt with the lightning and scarred Palpatine's face. Palpatine was at his mercy hence him feigning weakness to gain sympathy and manipulate Anakin.

He already tortured him and declared he will now die. Luke still walked away without a problem despite under the duress of the lighting for over ten seconds out to kill. No, as we see in the same exact situation Luke was not ko'd. Yoda was. Yoda also needs a cane to walk. Luke doesn't. Luke was also younger and in his prime. Yoda wasn't. Need I go ?

That's how the force users manipulate the force. Are you not familiar with how a force user manipulates the force ? Sidious would force choke safely from another room like a coward. Khan is the guy who takes on the starfleet singlehandedly. Palpatine is the guy who begs and tries to flee from single combat against peers.

Palpatine is dead meat.

None of those things matter against the Force. How will his intelligence or regen prevent him from getting ragdolled? Or having his throat crushed? The gun did all the work, anyone could have weielded it.

Just like Boba helped Jango against Obi-Wan. Only difference is, Jango could have prevented that if he wasn't dumb enough to try to grab the saber from a guy with TK. Entirely his own fault.

Movement is movement no matter how you slice it. If they can make their legs move faster then they can make their arms move faster as well. This is proven by their ability to block laser fire. Even if you don't want to accept that due to your massive Khan fanboyism, it still doesn't stop Sidious from flash-stepping all over the battlefield, preventing Khan from getting a clear shot.

Oh, yes he did. Obi-Wan laid an aerial smackdown on him and forced him to call outside help. Obi-Wan was protecting his girl. As for Maul, victory is victory. Padawan Obi-Wan has also defeated Maul. In fact, Obi-Wan has held an advantage over Maul and Savage at the same time. He is his clear superior. Doesn't change the fact that they have this power, and can use it if they choose to. Here they fight at the best of their abilities after all. We see, like, 3-4 Jedi get killed by Order 66. That's out of several thousand Jedi, and we know for a fact that there were millions of Clone troopers. Do the math.

He was a retard. If he wasn't he would have flown away instead of trying to take Mace's saber. Mace couldn't have killed Sidious any sooner, since Sidious only pretending to be weak.

😆 😆 😆 😆 If he was at his mercy he wouldn't need to feign weakness. Do you have any awareness of what retarded shit you write?

So you have no understanding of what torture is? Or what a slow death means? Also, answer this, do you think Luke could walk away from a massive fall like Yoda did? And furthemore, Dooku's much weaker lightning has KOed Anakin with a single jolt, how do you explain that?

He doesn't need to concentrate to perform such basic feats. He's capable of tossing around senate pods while levitating and enjoying himself. Glad we agree, Khan gets TKed from another room or even planet, nothing he can do to prevent that.

Originally posted by quanchi112

8. Khan has a gun that brings down ships. What Jedi has ever blocked a laser blast with a force shield ?

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They can leap over those blasts without a problem. They can run at Khan super speed Koing him without a problem. They can Tk Khan without a problem They can Tk Khan's guns back to themselves without a problem.

Khan's just completely outmatched by the likes of Maul or Kenobi. Let alone Sidious or Yoda 😂

thedkeffect didn't know that Jedi could do any of that, as he hasn't seen the movies.

Originally posted by quanchi112
1. Obi fled. Watch the clip, liar. Fleeing is forfeiting.
2. Then why would Palpatine mention age and power to Grievous. He cited two issues. I'm right and I have evidence. You ignoring it is your fanboyism.

3. To grievous in rots. Watch the films you fool. I never said Vader was as old as Dooku but Luke was younger and more powerful. Youth is always a factor considering beings who age and depreciate.

4. No one can tank real lightning continuously for over ten seconds and walk away from it. Force lightning isn't real lightning. He suffered no significant injury and he walked away like he was fine right after it was over. That's what we see. Period.

5. It did not occur. Sidious can't disappear so it did give him new abilities. Sidious also wasn't courageous enough to confront him in real life. Yoda had to come find the guy and he tried to jump away and flee. Coward. It was a fair fight.

6. You're choking on your own food, kiddo.

7. So ? Force users with the force can force choke each other. Khan has a gun that kills far quicker than the force. 🙂

8. Khan has a gun that brings down ships. What Jedi has ever blocked a laser blast with a force shield ?

9. Based on ?

Have you still not seen Into Darkness thus proving you're a troll.

Liar. Who told his men to handle the Jedi after he was just punched to the ground and disarmed.
2. Dooku was 83. He had lived his long life, he couldn't go any farther in the force than he already had, he already went through life and 10 years of SITH training , he's gone as far as he can go. Palaptine wanted Anakin because he was more powerful which was like the big reason. Of course he said younger because Dooku was older than palpatine by the time of his death, he wanted someone he could mold someone he could actually train to take his place. Dooku couldn't do that. Also if age mattered than why did he replace maul with Dooku. (Whichever answer you put is the one I want to here)

3. He was concerned with power. I'm sure the emperor doesn't care about a 29 year age disparity. You have yet to give a quote to where palaptine says I want Luke because he is younger.

4. We will see when episode 7 comes out.

5. It doesn't bolster his real abilities. Yes falling and then disappearing before you hit the ground was part of the illusion. However that doesn't detract from the fact that everything in that vision was realistic and did actually happen.

6. You are choking on your defeat.

7. Irrelevant. Sidious can disarm him of his weapons or distract him with it before it becomes a problem.

8. Telekinetic strike, lightning, other force powers.

9. DE Sidious was able to chain lightning through multiple opponents and even burn them to a crisp, I believe it's in the comic.

Obi-Wan totally stomped Pre-Vizsla. Quan is lying his ass off.

He has to though. Only way he has an argument.

Originally posted by quanchi112
The game looks very weak. Lucky for you I won't play this.

Your tears sustain me.

But yeah, so I won't be off topic Palpatine still wins.

Originally posted by Psychotron
None of those things matter against the Force. How will his intelligence or regen prevent him from getting ragdolled? Or having his throat crushed? The gun did all the work, anyone could have weielded it.

Just like Boba helped Jango against Obi-Wan. Only difference is, Jango could have prevented that if he wasn't dumb enough to try to grab the saber from a guy with TK. Entirely his own fault.

Movement is movement no matter how you slice it. If they can make their legs move faster then they can make their arms move faster as well. This is proven by their ability to block laser fire. Even if you don't want to accept that due to your massive Khan fanboyism, it still doesn't stop Sidious from flash-stepping all over the battlefield, preventing Khan from getting a clear shot.

Oh, yes he did. Obi-Wan laid an aerial smackdown on him and forced him to call outside help. Obi-Wan was protecting his girl. As for Maul, victory is victory. Padawan Obi-Wan has also defeated Maul. In fact, Obi-Wan has held an advantage over Maul and Savage at the same time. He is his clear superior. Doesn't change the fact that they have this power, and can use it if they choose to. Here they fight at the best of their abilities after all. We see, like, 3-4 Jedi get killed by Order 66. That's out of several thousand Jedi, and we know for a fact that there were millions of Clone troopers. Do the math.

He was a retard. If he wasn't he would have flown away instead of trying to take Mace's saber. Mace couldn't have killed Sidious any sooner, since Sidious only pretending to be weak.

😆 😆 😆 😆 If he was at his mercy he wouldn't need to feign weakness. Do you have any awareness of what retarded shit you write?

So you have no understanding of what torture is? Or what a slow death means? Also, answer this, do you think Luke could walk away from a massive fall like Yoda did? And furthemore, Dooku's much weaker lightning has KOed Anakin with a single jolt, how do you explain that?

He doesn't need to concentrate to perform such basic feats. He's capable of tossing around senate pods while levitating and enjoying himself. Glad we agree, Khan gets TKed from another room or even planet, nothing he can do to prevent that.

Yes, they do. And to make myself perfectly clear. This isn't about someone vs. the force it's about Khan vs. Palpatine. Khan's accuracy and the speed/power of the phaser blasts he's bringing to bear here. No, that is inaccurate. Not anyone could do what Khan did with the guns. We see that Spock, Kirk, Uhura are in complete awe of what he did. You're the guy who says skill matters in one thread and then totally discounts it in this thread. Hypocrisy.

Nah. The beast helped disable the jetpack. Boba did not disarm Obi. Jango did. False. He made a move and was unsuccessful. That didn't cost him but what did is the beast.

Sprinting is not the same as fighting speed/reflexes. Usain Bolt can sprint very fast but that doesn't mean he can fight faster than trained fighters. They can deflect laser blasts die to the distance and their training. We see both Vizsla and Jango fight melee and hold their own just fine against Obi in hand to hand. Obi is not vastly faster with his hands. He's just really skilled with a lightsaber. Khan jumped and dodged phaser while jumping yet I won't claim he is faster than phaser blasts. Palpatine isn't faster or can he block the Boolean gun. He dies.

No, he was not significantly injured and then said for his friends to help. Obi fled. Obi left yes and while he was protecting her he in no way, shape, or form had Pre even close to defeat. Pre is the same guy earlier in the scene who tossed him his saber. Obi was soundly defeated and while Maul taunted him it got him cut in half. But the context sure showed maul was his better. He fought him and his master at the same time for a while. Maul was clearly shown as superior in the clone wars series to Obi as well. I only go by what I see otherwise there is no context. I go based on what I can prove not what I can theorize about.

Jango isn't a retard and I for one don't think he is superior to Mace. He can take him on but maces skills are superior to Jango's. And despite my opinion there Jango still put up a fight but his equipment was damaged by a beast so it wasn't a fair one on one fight.

I disagree. Palpatine was disarmed and at his mercy. Palpatine feigning weakness to gain sympathy from Anakin doesn't change the fact he was beaten one on one and at his mercy. He was at his mercy but needed to play the victim card to help persuade Anakin. Shooting lightning was only hurting him anyways so the fact he shot it as long as he did was retarded. 🙂

He tortured him first and then decided to kill him. He didn't say a slow death. Quit speculating. Force lightning isn't powerful. Yes, I do. Anakin was caught completely by surprise. Both instances of temp kos as in Yoda and Anakin both caught the Jedi by surprise.

Yes, he does. He might do it easier but focus has to be achieved to do it. Yes, but he's concentrating and not worrying about defending himself due to the distance between him and Yoda. Yoda also didn't have long range firepower that can oneshot kill like Khan.

They are in the same room. Khan wouldn't let him catch him unprepared. He's much more funny and effective in battle than the weasely emperor.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
They can leap over those blasts without a problem. They can run at Khan super speed Koing him without a problem. They can Tk Khan without a problem They can Tk Khan's guns back to themselves without a problem.

Khan's just completely outmatched by the likes of Maul or Kenobi. Let alone Sidious or Yoda 😂

So what you're saying is that can't or haven't. Good. Anakin good. Based on what ? They fled in that scene. When did they ever use that speed to ko anyone ?

No, they cannot. If they could do the things you describe they wouldn't have been overwhelmed by skillless droids on neogeonosis. I mean you had a lot of highly skilled Jedi being overwhelmed while Dooku stood by and watched. Droids are jokes. One of Khan's guns is carried on a strap around his shoulder. He also has another one. He's also super strong. Why didn't Windu to pull Jango's gun easily ? Why didn't Obi ?

Not. At. All. Khan is too cunning, too skilled, and wields too much firepower. He'd kill them all. He's superior.

KHAN HAS ALSO LEAPT OVER BLASTS.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Liar. Who told his men to handle the Jedi after he was just punched to the ground and disarmed.
2. Dooku was 83. He had lived his long life, he couldn't go any farther in the force than he already had, he already went through life and 10 years of SITH training , he's gone as far as he can go. Palaptine wanted Anakin because he was more powerful which was like the big reason. Of course he said younger because Dooku was older than palpatine by the time of his death, he wanted someone he could mold someone he could actually train to take his place. Dooku couldn't do that. Also if age mattered than why did he replace maul with Dooku. (Whichever answer you put is the one I want to here)

3. He was concerned with power. I'm sure the emperor doesn't care about a 29 year age disparity. You have yet to give a quote to where palaptine says I want Luke because he is younger.

4. We will see when episode 7 comes out.

5. It doesn't bolster his real abilities. Yes falling and then disappearing before you hit the ground was part of the illusion. However that doesn't detract from the fact that everything in that vision was realistic and did actually happen.

6. You are choking on your defeat.

7. Irrelevant. Sidious can disarm him of his weapons or distract him with it before it becomes a problem.

8. Telekinetic strike, lightning, other force powers.

9. DE Sidious was able to chain lightning through multiple opponents and even burn them to a crisp, I believe it's in the comic.

1:35.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_Vtj5YxDcCk

[/B]Pre Vizsla was not disarmed.[/B]

You're an embarrassment. He retracts his saber. He was it disarmed you brainless creature.

2. Dooku was older and was less powerful than the younger Anakin at the time of his death. That's why Palpatine mentions age and power. You ignoring the two reasons he gave is more or less the extent of your debating. Lie, ignore, and rave about your thoughtless opinion.

3. Palpatine mentioned it. You speculating isn't proof and doesn't make his statement go away. 😉

4. Things might change. I am only going by the evidence up to this point. I have a feeling Abrams is going to knock people's socks off.

5. He can not teleport so it did. It also did not occur so it isn't evidence just a vision.

6. You're an idiot.

7. Based off what evidence ?

8. Lacks the power and speed of Khan's guns.

9. When and for how long ? Oh you Star Wars people will cite anything these days. I already decimated the laughable At At exaggeration.

Originally posted by The Scenario
Your tears sustain me.

But yeah, so I won't be off topic Palpatine still wins.

Whyw outs I cry that you're upset over me not playing the shitty metroid series ?

Khan wins.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Whyw outs I cry that you're upset over me not playing the shitty metroid series ?

Khan wins.

I dunno. Why are you crying?

Khan gets electrocuted and there's nothing he can do about it.

Originally posted by quanchi112
1:35.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_Vtj5YxDcCk

Pre Vizsla was not disarmed.[/B]

You're an embarrassment. He retracts his saber. He was it disarmed you brainless creature.

2. Dooku was older and was less powerful than the younger Anakin at the time of his death. That's why Palpatine mentions age and power. You ignoring the two reasons he gave is more or less the extent of your debating. Lie, ignore, and rave about your thoughtless opinion.

3. Palpatine mentioned it. You speculating isn't proof and doesn't make his statement go away. 😉

4. Things might change. I am only going by the evidence up to this point. I have a feeling Abrams is going to knock people's socks off.

5. He can not teleport so it did. It also did not occur so it isn't evidence just a vision.

6. You're an idiot.

7. Based off what evidence ?

8. Lacks the power and speed of Khan's guns.

9. When and for how long ? Oh you Star Wars people will cite anything these days. I already decimated the laughable At At exaggeration. [/B]

So kenobi kicking his saber out of his hand isn't being disarmed.

2. He was concerned more with power, also Dooku was in his 80s. Dooku had reached the end of his line, he was as powerful and skilled as he was going to get. He wanted Luke be aide he had more potential. If vader still had potential he would have kept him around but he didn't.

3. Where did he mention age being a contributing factor in converting Luke or having anything to do with Luke being his apprentice. Post the quote.

4. I agree, however I'm skeptical about it as Disney is running the show and they aren't using any of Lucas' ideas.

5. If that's the case why didn't he turn into a big bad monster that would overwhelm him, or shoot powerful energy blast out of his hand or manipulate space and time or any of that if the vision made his power better? The vision had no impact on his power, Sidious vanishing was Sidious coming out of the SITH illusion, not his power. Him shocking and choking Anakin is his power.

6. Yes, yes you are.

7. Based on how Sidious can lift 4-6 senate pods at one time with his mind. Lifting a gun shouldn't be a problem.

8. The force is Sidious' ally, the force destroys any chance khan may have.

9. It's in the comics. No it isn't cannon but I'm saying if it's DE he is known for chaining lightning through multiple targets and can even vaporize opponents.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
So kenobi kicking his saber out of his hand isn't being disarmed.

2. He was concerned more with power, also Dooku was in his 80s. Dooku had reached the end of his line, he was as powerful and skilled as he was going to get. He wanted Luke be aide he had more potential. If vader still had potential he would have kept him around but he didn't.

3. Where did he mention age being a contributing factor in converting Luke or having anything to do with Luke being his apprentice. Post the quote.

4. I agree, however I'm skeptical about it as Disney is running the show and they aren't using any of Lucas' ideas.

5. If that's the case why didn't he turn into a big bad monster that would overwhelm him, or shoot powerful energy blast out of his hand or manipulate space and time or any of that if the vision made his power better? The vision had no impact on his power, Sidious vanishing was Sidious coming out of the SITH illusion, not his power. Him shocking and choking Anakin is his power.

6. Yes, yes you are.

7. Based on how Sidious can lift 4-6 senate pods at one time with his mind. Lifting a gun shouldn't be a problem.

8. The force is Sidious' ally, the force destroys any chance khan may have.

9. It's in the comics. No it isn't cannon but I'm saying if it's DE he is known for chaining lightning through multiple targets and can even vaporize opponents.

I just gave you the time when he called his men to help with the saber in his hand. We see it retract. You're an idiot.

2. He was concerned with both. Just as I said the rest is your opinion which isn't evidence.

3. I said age was a factor with Anakin so why wouldn't it be there when Luke is both more powerful and younger ? Do you common sense, bro ?

4. Lucas is overrated and I'm glad that has been is out.

5. He had to break his spirit and he failed to do so. Period. It never occurred. Sucks to be you and Sidious.

6. I see words like you're confuse you, idiot.

7. Yoda had ample time to kill him if he had a gun in the time Palpatine was waving his arms around. He's vulnerable to be shot, dummy.

8. Khan's guns are his allies. Two allies is better than one, sport.

9. It's spelled canon. Teehee. So you knowingly brought in non canon evidence. You disgust me, troll.

When the other mods want you ban you for this outrage I won't be there to back you up.

Originally posted by The Scenario
I dunno. Why are you crying?

Khan gets electrocuted and there's nothing he can do about it.

You're the one crying, Samus apologist.

Khan shoots him and there's nothing the geriatric can do about it.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You're the one crying, Samus apologist.

Khan shoots him and there's nothing the geriatric can do about it.

I apologize for making you cry. Would you like me to stop?

Khan gets electrocuted before he can shoot, seeing how he's slower than geriatric.

Originally posted by The Scenario
I apologize for making you cry. Would you like me to stop?

Khan gets electrocuted before he can shoot, seeing how he's slower than geriatric.

You are losing your mind these days.

Khan's feats are faster. Khan guns him down. Force lightning is rather weak as well.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You are losing your mind these days.

Khan's feats are faster. Khan guns him down. Force lightning is rather weak as well.

You seem mad. Is it something I did?

Palpatine's feats are faster. Lightning renders Khan helpless.