Originally posted by The ScenarioNo, and it's also irrelevant. It's like saying look at this superior sumo beat the other sumos and then arguing he beats up a ninja. It is irrelevant and doesn't address Khan's skill set.Well, yeah. Being superior to Jedi masters makes him superior to Khan. This isn't hard, quan.
Originally posted by quanchi112
[B]No, and it's also irrelevant. It's like saying look at this superior sumo beat the other sumos and then arguing he beats up a ninja. It is irrelevant and doesn't address Khan's skill set.
lol
You're serious?
No, quan, it's called a speed feat. Look at how fast he moved which is so much faster than Khan. Therefore he can move faster than Khan. It's pretty simple.
Originally posted by The ScenarioHe moved in close quarters faster than inferior sword duelists. The one who he wasn't superior to beat him.
lolYou're serious?
No, quan, it's called a speed feat. Look at how fast he moved which is so much faster than Khan. Therefore he can move faster than Khan. It's pretty simple.
Do you think Khan is going to charge him with a sword ?
It's like saying since Usain Bolt is faster than a Bruce Lee his fighting reflexes must be as well.
🙂
Originally posted by quanchi112
He moved in close quarters faster than inferior sword duelists. The one who he wasn't superior to beat him.
Yes. What's the problem here?
Do you think Khan is going to charge him with a sword ?
Do you have an equivalent speed feat for Khan? No? Then he's slower than Palpatine.
It's like saying since Usain Bolt is faster than a Bruce Lee his fighting reflexes must be as well.🙂
Uh, no it isn't. It's more like saying Bruce Lee is faster than several martial arts masters so he's faster than some shmuck with no speed feats.
Originally posted by The ScenarioIt is irrelevant to Khan.
Yes. What's the problem here?Do you have an equivalent speed feat for Khan? No? Then he's slower than Palpatine.
Uh, no it isn't. It's more like saying Bruce Lee is faster than several martial arts masters so he's faster than some shmuck with no speed feats.
Yes. I have more than one. Palpatine didn't seem fast at all. The time it takes him to jump and attack isn't impressive.
It's like saying look how quick Bruce lees hands are he can dodge buklets and beat the guy with the gun.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Evidence you say. Oh since I'm a kind and generous Quan here's a link.We see Obi and a friend try to track down and defeat Cad Bane. Pat multiple points in the fight we see Cad's reflexes are more than a match for multiple Jedi just by himself. Cad even gets disarmed and takes on Obi one saber for saber. Cad hasn't had years of training with the saber but Obi has. how embarrassing.
1:27-1:29 Cad Bane show himself to be quicker with his speed zaps him ouut after an arm bar.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SoSayqv1TVI
During the fight we see Cad more than capable of ho,ding his own before actually getting the better of Obi Wan by beating him through a superior reaction arm bar and then zap out.
[B]Let the humiliation of Kenobi begin.
You say super speed and I laugh at you as I give evidence of someone not only beating Obi but also matching him briefly with a saber which isn't Cad's forte.This was Obi armed as well as with a Jedi peer. Khan was unarmed against Spock after he just crash landed and he still showed himself to disarm and demonstrate superiority over superhuman Spock. [/B]
Great 👆 Thanks for the Cad Bane speed feats 😂
Your only issue is last time Kenobi faced Cad Bane, in the guise of Rako Hardeem, he completely stomped Bane. Worse than he stomped Pre-Vizsla 😂
But hey you want to show low feats that's fine. Because as far as Poor Showings go I'd rather him struggle against flying fully equipped proven elite SW bounty hunters than a single Vulcan any day of the week 😂
So still no speed feat for spock? I accept your concession 😆
You've proven Khan can only beat featless nobody's. Obi-Wan's victories have speed feats. Khan's are slow coaches 😆
I win again 💃
Originally posted by DARTH POWERI never said Cad Bane was this badass I said Jedi reflexes aren't beyond non force users. I proved its by Cad Bane showing himself to be quicker reacting and defeating Obi Wan. Post the clip though. You falsely believe Pre lost. Palpatine didn't pursue Yoda and had his men do so but somehow you hypocritically say Pre lost but change your logic for Palpatine.
Great 👆 Thanks for the Cad Bane speed feats 😂Your only issue is last time Kenobi faced Cad Bane, in the guise of Rako Hardeem, he completely stomped Bane. Worse than he stomped Pre-Vizsla 😂
But hey you want to show low feats that's fine. Because as far as Poor Showings go I'd rather him struggle against flying fully equipped proven elite SW bounty hunters than a single Vulcan any day of the week 😂
So still no speed feat for spock? I accept your concession 😆
You've proven Khan can only beat featless nobody's. Obi-Wan's victories have speed feats. Khan's are slow coaches 😆
I win again 💃
There is no such thing as low feats or high feats. There is only evidence. I am proving my case by showing Cad Bane being quicker than Obi. Hell, in a fight with Obi Jango himself showed to be quick enough to Gaige just as good as he gets. There is no exceptional speed advantage. Jedi typically specialize in superhuman reflexes with the saber. This requires close quarters combat.
Palpatine had to jump near and close the distance. He can't just teleport so in the time it takes him to close the gap Khan has time to fire at one single target. You just say he speed blitzed but all he did was take on guys who don't have any gains aka no long ranged combat up close. Palpatine beat the weaker ones and lost to his peer. Simple. Occam's razor.
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^ So you gonna give Spock and the Klingons best speed feats or do you concede the point that Kenobi is just straight out faster than Khan? Having beaten much faster opponents and having much better speed feats himself.
What do you mean there's no low and high feats? Kenobi stomped Bane the next time they fought. Oh and why? Kenobi was simply too fast for him, and he couldn't fly away fast enough to evade Kenobi.
So saying there's no high and low feats in that example is beyond dumb. And besides all you're doing is proving Cad Bane can go up against Speedsters like Kenobi. You're not proving squat about what Khan can do 😆
Anyway speed feats for Spock and the Klingons, or I accept your concession that Khan has only beaten featless nobody's.
Because fact is Khan's best feat (taking out the Klingon squad) is really no more impressive than Yoda ripping through a squad of Clone Troopers. Difference being, that's not the best feat Yoda/Sidious have to offer. Not by a long shot.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Post the clip though. You falsely believe Pre lost. Palpatine didn't pursue Yoda and had his men do so but somehow you hypocritically say Pre lost but change your logic for Palpatine.
Difference is Kenobi beat down Pre, who then shouted to his men for help. And Kenobi didn't run at first, only when Satine was in danger did her leap to get her out of the way. You can't be this dumb. It has to be an act.
Originally posted by DARTH POWERThat is hand to hand fighting minus guns so irrelevant to a thread in which a saber and Khan's guns are here. Hand to hand here we see Obi.
^ So you gonna give Spock and the Klingons best speed feats or do you concede the point that Kenobi is just straight out faster than Khan? Having beaten much faster opponents and having much better speed feats himself.What do you mean there's no low and high feats? Kenobi stomped Bane the next time they fought. Oh and why? Kenobi was simply too fast for him, and he couldn't fly away fast enough to evade Kenobi.
So saying there's no high and low feats in that example is beyond dumb. And besides all you're doing is proving Cad Bane can go up against Speedsters like Kenobi. You're not proving squat about what Khan can do 😆Anyway speed feats for Spock and the Klingons, or I accept your concession that Khan has only beaten featless nobody's.
Because fact is Khan's best feat (taking out the Klingon squad) is really no more impressive than Yoda ripping through a squad of Clone Troopers. Difference being, that's not the best feat Yoda/Sidious have to offer. Not by a long shot.
54 seconds on we don't see any super speed from Obi in hand to hand. We see Jango catch Obi's attack and headbutt him later on. In hand to hand Obi doesn't look anything special and is considerably weaker physically than Khan.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8tMZdrUx8eM
We see he's far weaker than Khan who throws Spock around. Spock is super humanly strong.
There are only feats. You saying low or high is subjective. I don't do that and to me it's all evidence. I don't get emotional or biased like you by attaching subjective terms like high or low. 🙂
I am proving Obi isn't a speedster. When we see him fight hand to hand he's just as fast as Jango and its down to skill. They are physical peers. Khan crushes skulls. He's a lot stronger than Obi one is.
Khan is superhumanly fast and accurate with his guns. Points to the Klingon scene. If we break down Khan vs. Spock they fight around the same speed only Khan looks more durable, stronger, and more skilled. Hand to hand Khannwouod break Obi faster than Bane put him in that armbar. Look at the power and technique of Khan's roundhouse and kicks. Compare that to Obi and it's laughable.
What feats do you want to compare ? You keep saying the Jedi are faster without proof. Let's compare hand to hand speed and power. I am more than game.
Khan did so singlehandedly according to Kirk and also subdued Spock and crew. Yoda needed Obi and chose the time he took on a smaller crew. Context.
That's greater than anything Sidious or Yoda has done by far. Sidious failed against Windu and Yoda failed to even beat Dooku with the time he had.
Originally posted by DARTH POWERNo, he did not beat him down. He was fine. Yoda was disarmed and beaten down but Palaptine didn't follow him down yet you use double standards. You're a hypocrite. You're biased and stupid.
Difference is Kenobi beat down Pre, who then shouted to his men for help. And Kenobi didn't run at first, only when Satine was in danger did her leap to get her out of the way. You can't be this dumb. It has to be an act.
Originally posted by quanchi112
That is hand to hand fighting minus guns so irrelevant to a thread in which a saber and Khan's guns are here. Hand to hand here we see Obi.
So you respond to Hand to hand being irrelevant with this:
Originally posted by quanchi112
54 seconds on we don't see any super speed from Obi in hand to hand. We see Jango catch Obi's attack and headbutt him later on. In hand to hand Obi doesn't look anything special and is considerably weaker physically than Khan.
^ So make up your damn mind, is it relevant or not.
Either way Kenobi is far superior. That's why you keep chickening out of my Battlezone challenge.
Coward 😆
Originally posted by quanchi112
We see he's far weaker than Khan who throws Spock around. Spock is super humanly strong.
So is Kenobi. A normal person punching that mandalorian armor hurts their fist and doesn't move a Fett. As shown in the latest COMPLETELY CANON Marvel's SW #6 comic.
Nice try though.
Not that it's going to matter when Kenobi chops off Khan's head with his Lightsaber. His strength won't mean squat when that happens.
Originally posted by quanchi112
There are only feats. You saying low or high is subjective. I don't do that and to me it's all evidence. I don't get emotional or biased like you by attaching subjective terms like high or low. 🙂
And yet you fail to provide ANY speed feats for the Klingons or Spock. And nothing from Khan that matches Kenobi's clearly superior reflexes and sprint/leaping speed.
Yes, I'm kicking your ass again. No need to cry.
Originally posted by quanchi112
I am proving Obi isn't a speedster. When we see him fight hand to hand he's just as fast as Jango and its down to skill. They are physical peers. Khan crushes skulls. He's a lot stronger than Obi one is.
Obi-Wan clearly isn't a Flash/Quicksilver type speedster, but he has the feats to prove his reflexes, and travelling speed are way beyond Khan's.
Kenobi's saber will chop off Khan's head and you know it 😂
Originally posted by quanchi112
Khan is superhumanly fast and accurate with his guns.
Show it, and compare it to Kenobi's top speed:
[youtube?v=2OTHjSG61SI[/youtube]
^@6:50
Show it bro.
This is why you keep chickening out of a battlezone 😆
Show me Khan doing anything as impressive as deflecting constant fire. That's shows Kenobi's superior reflexes and aim.
You can't.
That's why I win.
I win on feats.
Give up now, you've lost 😆
Originally posted by quanchi112
Points to the Klingon scene. If we break down Khan vs. Spock they fight around the same speed only Khan looks more durable, stronger, and more skilled. Hand to hand Khannwouod break Obi faster than Bane put him in that armbar. Look at the power and technique of Khan's roundhouse and kicks. Compare that to Obi and it's laughable.
In other words you have Zero speed feats for Khan or Spock which compare to say Kenobi, and an enemy he's defeated like say... Grievous:
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^ 2:01
Look how fast Grievous is swinging those blades, and Kenobi just stomps him. Nice strength feat at the end as well ripping open Grievous's chest. Better than crushing a mere human pfft.
I've beaten you on feats. You have nothing.
I win, and you know it.
You will have nightmares about this for life. It's why you keep running from the Battlezone, because you know very well when I post these feats there, no Judge is going to side with you. That's why you're a true Coward. 😆
Instead you Troll these boards, taking spanking after spanking but never conceding. You have no self respect.
I win as usual.
Originally posted by quanchi112
What feats do you want to compare ? You keep saying the Jedi are faster without proof. Let's compare hand to hand speed and power. I am more than game.
No you're not. You dismissed Kenobi stomping Bane saying it was hand to hand 😆
You're a complete hypocrite. That's why your the Troll of KMC.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Khan did so singlehandedly according to Kirk and also subdued Spock and crew. Yoda needed Obi and chose the time he took on a smaller crew. Context.
You liar. Kirk and Spock were also fighting the Klingons.
So again: You're a complete hypocrite. That's why your the Troll of KMC.
Originally posted by quanchi112
That's greater than anything Sidious or Yoda has done by far.
Nah Yoda's done the same twice. Difference is he does it with ease. But for your Khan, that's his best feat by far. And with the aid of super guns as well! How laughable.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Sidious failed against Windu and Yoda failed to even beat Dooku with the time he had.
Yeah, they're proper opponents. Whilst Khan gets beat by Spock and Uhura 😆
So no speed feats for Spock or Uhura or the Klingons?
I win then. As usual.
Originally posted by quanchi112
No, he did not beat him down. He was fine.
Yeah course he was fine. That's why he cried out to his men to fire rockets at him 😂
You're unbelievably dumb.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Yoda was disarmed and beaten down but Palaptine didn't follow him down yet you use double standards. You're a hypocrite. You're biased and stupid.
What double standards?
You're the only one using double standards, I've not used any. You're lying as usual. Because I've kicked your ass in a feat war, so all you can do now is Lie and Troll. How pathetic.
You're also a bit retarded that you can't tell the difference between Pre-Vizsla getting a beat down and crying for help, and Sidious and Yoda both flying back at the same time, but without anyone crying for help.
You also can't distinguish between Kenobi dodging 3 rockets (speed feat beyond Khan), then trying to save his girlfriend, and Yoda fighting alone.
Like I said all you're doing is proving how retarded you are.
Now provide the speed feats I've demanded, or concede that no such speed feats exist, and that I've kicked you ass all over.
Originally posted by DARTH POWERHe had men right there. Why wouldn't he use them ? Do the Jedi stop the clones against the droids to make things fair ? This is war, boy. Palpatine told his men to, "Double your search." Both leaders used their men and both were not defeated. Yoda lost despite not dying. He fled the scene after he was disarmed. He knew he had a limited timeframe and failed. Obi realized once Pre had his men get involved he had to flee in order to save the person. I do not use double standards. According to your logic you hypocritically say one lost and one won despite no one dying and underlings getting involved.
Yeah course he was fine. That's why he cried out to his men to fire rockets at him 😂You're unbelievably dumb.
What double standards?
You're the only one using double standards, I've not used any. You're lying as usual. Because I've kicked your ass in a feat war, so all you can do now is Lie and Troll. How pathetic.
You're also a bit retarded that you can't tell the difference between Pre-Vizsla getting a beat down and crying for help, and Sidious and Yoda both flying back at the same time, but without anyone crying for help.
You also can't distinguish between Kenobi dodging 3 rockets (speed feat beyond Khan), then trying to save his girlfriend, and Yoda fighting alone.
Like I said all you're doing is proving how retarded you are.
Now provide the speed feats I've demanded, or concede that no such speed feats exist, and that I've kicked you ass all over.
The personal attacks are a way for you to steer clear of the debate. Pre was intelligent and had his men aid him. Did the Klingons challenge Khan to one on one or did he decimate them while saving the three from the enterprise from their wrath ? Get it the **** done, Obi. He's a failure. Listen to his words with Anakin where he confesses his failure. Chump.
Khan avoids phasers coming from multiple directions from more opponents. Yoda was also not alone against the clones. He had Obi with him. Do you think he brought him for company ?
What aren't you getting ? I am saying his hand to hand combat isn't super fast. I have given examples of him fighting Cad and being slower. I have also given examples of Jango fighting. Nothing was superhumanly fast. I'm game to compare hand to hand reaction times feat by feat. You don't grasp the difference between sword duel skills and hand to hand combat skills. They are different, sport.
Originally posted by DARTH POWERHow many times is the point going to fly over your head ? You haven't proven Obi's hand to hand fighting skill is superhuman. His expertise is with a light saber not hand to hand. He isn't superhumanly fast in combat and it's about his skills/reflexes/training.
So you respond to Hand to hand being irrelevant with this:^ So make up your damn mind, is it relevant or not.
Either way Kenobi is far superior. That's why you keep chickening out of my Battlezone challenge.
Coward 😆
So is Kenobi. A normal person punching that mandalorian armor hurts their fist and doesn't move a Fett. As shown in the latest COMPLETELY CANON Marvel's SW #6 comic.
Nice try though.
Not that it's going to matter when Kenobi chops off Khan's head with his Lightsaber. His strength won't mean squat when that happens.
And yet you fail to provide ANY speed feats for the Klingons or Spock. And nothing from Khan that matches Kenobi's clearly superior reflexes and sprint/leaping speed.
Yes, I'm kicking your ass again. No need to cry.
Obi-Wan clearly isn't a Flash/Quicksilver type speedster, but he has the feats to prove his reflexes, and travelling speed are way beyond Khan's.
Kenobi's saber will chop off Khan's head and you know it 😂
Show it, and compare it to Kenobi's top speed:
[youtube?v=2OTHjSG61SI[/youtube]
^@6:50
Show it bro.
This is why you keep chickening out of a battlezone 😆
Show me Khan doing anything as impressive as deflecting constant fire. That's shows Kenobi's superior reflexes and aim.
You can't.
That's why I win.
I win on feats.
Give up now, you've lost 😆
In other words you have Zero speed feats for Khan or Spock which compare to say Kenobi, and an enemy he's defeated like say... Grievous:
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^ 2:01
Look how fast Grievous is swinging those blades, and Kenobi just stomps him. Nice strength feat at the end as well ripping open Grievous's chest. Better than crushing a mere human pfft.
I've beaten you on feats. You have nothing.
I win, and you know it.
You will have nightmares about this for life. It's why you keep running from the Battlezone, because you know very well when I post these feats there, no Judge is going to side with you. That's why you're a true Coward. 😆
Instead you Troll these boards, taking spanking after spanking but never conceding. You have no self respect.
I win as usual.
No you're not. You dismissed Kenobi stomping Bane saying it was hand to hand 😆
You're a complete hypocrite. That's why your the Troll of KMC.
You liar. Kirk and Spock were also fighting the Klingons.
So again: You're a complete hypocrite. That's why your the Troll of KMC.
Nah Yoda's done the same twice. Difference is he does it with ease. But for your Khan, that's his best feat by far. And with the aid of super guns as well! How laughable.
Yeah, they're proper opponents. Whilst Khan gets beat by Spock and Uhura 😆
So no speed feats for Spock or Uhura or the Klingons?
I win then. As usual.
My mind hasn't changed. I just posted more proof of him fighting at human speeds in a hand to hand fight. This supports my claims. If he was super fast then why doesn't it show up against a non force user ? Your claims rest of force users being ridiculously fast but I have just shown you take error of your ways with the timing of the fight and his opponent not having a connection to the force.
By all means post the scan. Now if it's boba Fett what makes you a think the armor is exactly the same ? Obi's punch also looked to either hurt himself or do nothing significant to Jango.
He will never bridge the gap. One missile's force knocked the saber from his feminine grip. He was also too slow to recover it against an opponent slowed down by Mandalorian armor. One blast from the Boolean gun will kill him. 😂
The missile also didn't so much as dent the carrier floor so it's collaterally weak as ****.
Their hand to hand feats are just as quick actually quicker than the Kenobi/Fett battle. But let's see Obi an show many shots Jango gets off. He gets off around 6 or so blasts before Obi can cut his head off. In fact Obi never cuts his head off. Kenobi didn't approach with blazing speed either so suggesting he flies through to close the distance is a lie. In combat he approaches cautiously and not fast at all. Your childish remarks are closely tied into your maturity and intrllignrce as a debater.
^^So saying he chops off Khan's head before he knows it is fanboyism. I just cited attack of the clones and the fact he never got to cut his head off let alone before he knew it.
Sprinting away from enemies is completely different than using his speed to attack a firing opponent. It takes him seconds here. I mean wtf are you talking about. Oh right one feat where he flees an opponent. You're such a fanboy.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8tMZdrUx8eM
Khan doesn't use a lightsaber. I already showed one guy armbar and beat his Jedi ass. Bane owned him. You claimed Obi beat his ass only to lose the next time around. Post the fight too, coward. Khan guns down his opponents. We see him tear apart a littered battlefield with Klingons superior to Kirk, Spock, and Uhura. That's a far more impressive feat than losing to Bane or being unable to best Jango Fett. He lost his saber pretty quickly into the fight. Feats, bro. 🙂
You repeating yourself or a time comparison of hand to hand fighting is trolling. Let's compare. Obi can't even beat down a guy weighed down by Mandalorian armor for crying out loud.
Yes, Obi excels at close quarter combat with a saber. Khan doesn't wield a saber so irrelevant. Apples and oranges. Khan doesn't spin lightsabers and kill opponents like Grievous. Obi is also more skilled than Grievous so how is it impressive by beating a less skilled opponent who uses light sabers irrelevant to Khan's skills ?
You sound like a real loser and remind me of some dork in an 80's movie saying you're my worst nightmare. I already sought out and found someone to rep Vader after you backed down, biff.
Bane did beat him hand to hand with an armbar. The armbar wasn't down at a superhuman speed. It was just dine quicker than Obi could account for. When someone is up close and they use their fists/etc. it is hand to hand. Bane even held his own with a saber which is Kenobi's greatest skill.
I said according to Kirk. He says those words. So no I am not a liar you're just ignorant. You're emotional and don't even think anymore. You must rage post.
Kirk used those words in the film. Get madder.
Khan did so with ease. At one point was he challenged ? You're a liar. So now you dismiss Khan's weaponry but act as if Yoda's force powers, lightsaber, and his pal Obi is fair game ? You are really a hypocrite. Khan has his guns whereas Yoda has his saber. Don't cry about itt, *****.
Well, you claimed he blitzed. No, he just beat inferior opponents. Windu then beat him. Palaptine had his weapon. Khan was weapon less, just crash landed, and was about to crush Spock's skull. See the difference ? That doesn't pertain to Khan with his guns. What did he do to Spock when Spock and Khan both had guns ? Who disarmed who ?
The phasers they fire move far faster than the lightsaber moves. Undeniable.
I have been winning since this started. You're emotional, weak, and dumb. Nothing really to brag about on my end.
😂
So still no speed feats for Khan, Spock or the Klingons 😆
You've lost. Just be a man about it instead of crying.
Originally posted by quanchi112
He had men right there. Why wouldn't he use them ? Do the Jedi stop the clones against the droids to make things fair ?
This is getting desperate even by your standards.
If that was the case why didn't he get his friends to help him from the beginning?
He wanted to beat him on his own, that's why he challenged him on his own. He then got his butt kicked and cried to his men for help.
I love how desperate you are, using Kenobi running from several mandalorians, just to save his girl, as proof of anything.
That feat was above and beyond Khan.
Kenobi has the feats. Khan's a featless nobody whose best feat is beating featless nobodies 😂
Originally posted by quanchi112
This is war, boy. Palpatine told his men to, "Double your search." Both leaders used their men and both were not defeated. Yoda lost despite not dying. He fled the scene after he was disarmed. He knew he had a limited timeframe and failed. Obi realized once Pre had his men get involved he had to flee in order to save the person. I do not use double standards. According to your logic you hypocritically say one lost and one won despite no one dying and underlings getting involved.
You're completely delusional. Obi-Wan beat Pre's ass which is why he cried to his men. Obi-Wan had to save his girl which is why he ran after embarrassing Pre and his men.
Yoda and Sidious stalemated really. They were both pushed back. Yoda ran, but Sidious was in no condition to chase him.
Your attempts at comparing that almost stalemate to Kenobi stomping Pre-Vizela, then completely embarrassing him and all is men, is really a new low for you.
But what could we expect, Khan's in out of his depth here, so you have no other choice but to resort to desperate measures. 😂
Originally posted by quanchi112
The personal attacks are a way for you to steer clear of the debate.
Nah I've shown the superior feats, and you've failed to produce equal feats.
I'm insulting you because you're a low life who won't concede no matter how hard your getting battered, no matter how much evidence is shown to you, and no matter how wrong you are.
That's why you're the troll of KMC.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Pre was intelligent and had his men aid him.
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Pre only called for his men when he needed them, after getting a whooping. He was put on the floor helpless and cried to his men (@1:35). So quit lying your ass off. It's right there you delusional freak.
And then all his men together failed to hit a Kenobi trying to save the girl @ 1:45. He dodged all their missiles, 3 of them! That's way beyond reflexes Khan could even dream of!
So go on troll where are Khan's speed feats that beats Kenobi, sprinting like The Flash in TPM, dodging 3 missiles all locked onto him, and continually blocking multiple blaster fire?
Come on you troll, I'm wating. If you can't provide the evidence, then I'll accept your concession.
I've battered you over and over, but the Troll just keeps on Trolling 😆
Originally posted by quanchi112
Did the Klingons challenge Khan to one on one or did he decimate them while saving the three from the enterprise from their wrath ?
No they had no clue who they were even fighting. He began the fight by cheap shooting them with far superior weapons.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Get it the **** done, Obi. He's a failure. Listen to his words with Anakin where he confesses his failure. Chump.
Kenobi's already won the feat war.
But hey by all means keep trolling. Keep making a fool out of yourself so we can all have a good laugh at you.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Khan avoids phasers coming from multiple directions from more opponents. Yoda was also not alone against the clones. He had Obi with him. Do you think he brought him for company ?
Obi-Wan was in his own corner fighting far fewer clones. It's no different to Kirk and Spock helping to fight the Klingons.
Except Yoda could have done that al day, and didn't need much bigger guns or s cheap shot 😆
Originally posted by quanchi112
What aren't you getting ? I am saying his hand to hand combat isn't super fast.
Because your being completely hypocritical.
You already conceded Kenobi stomped Bane without any weapons.. I.e. in hand to hand, because he couldn't escape Kenobi who was just too fast for him. But you said it didn't matter because it was hand to hand.
And now you're claiming Kenobi's slower than Bane in hand to hand.
Cad Bane can fly and has got all sorts of different weapons on him and built into his suit. He's also a top tier alien marksman.
That has nothing to do with Khan, who'd get his head chopped off by Kenobi.
Provide Khan's superior speed feats or I'll gladly accept your concession.
Originally posted by DARTH POWERYou have zero combat feats for Obi, Yoda, or Sidious. You mDe a baseless claim. 🙂
So still no speed feats for Khan, Spock or the Klingons 😆You've lost. Just be a man about it instead of crying.
This is getting desperate even by your standards.
If that was the case why didn't he get his friends to help him from the beginning?
He wanted to beat him on his own, that's why he challenged him on his own. He then got his butt kicked and cried to his men for help.
I love how desperate you are, using Kenobi running from several mandalorians, just to save his girl, as proof of anything.
That feat was above and beyond Khan.
Kenobi has the feats. Khan's a featless nobody whose best feat is beating featless nobodies 😂
You're completely delusional. Obi-Wan beat Pre's ass which is why he cried to his men. Obi-Wan had to save his girl which is why he ran after embarrassing Pre and his men.
Yoda and Sidious stalemated really. They were both pushed back. Yoda ran, but Sidious was in no condition to chase him.
Your attempts at comparing that almost stalemate to Kenobi stomping Pre-Vizela, then completely embarrassing him and all is men, is really a new low for you.
But what could we expect, Khan's in out of his depth here, so you have no other choice but to resort to desperate measures. 😂
Nah I've shown the superior feats, and you've failed to produce equal feats.
I'm insulting you because you're a low life who won't concede no matter how hard your getting battered, no matter how much evidence is shown to you, and no matter how wrong you are.
That's why you're the troll of KMC.
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Pre only called for his men when he needed them, after getting a whooping. He was put on the floor helpless and cried to his men (@1:35). So quit lying your ass off. It's right there you delusional freak.
And then all his men together failed to hit a Kenobi trying to save the girl @ 1:45. He dodged all their missiles, 3 of them! That's way beyond reflexes Khan could even dream of!
So go on troll where are Khan's speed feats that beats Kenobi, sprinting like The Flash in TPM, dodging 3 missiles all locked onto him, and continually blocking multiple blaster fire?
Come on you troll, I'm wating. If you can't provide the evidence, then I'll accept your concession.
I've battered you over and over, but the Troll just keeps on Trolling 😆
No they had no clue who they were even fighting. He began the fight by cheap shooting them with far superior weapons.
Kenobi's already won the feat war.
But hey by all means keep trolling. Keep making a fool out of yourself so we can all have a good laugh at you.
Obi-Wan was in his own corner fighting far fewer clones. It's no different to Kirk and Spock helping to fight the Klingons.
Except Yoda could have done that al day, and didn't need much bigger guns or s cheap shot 😆
Because your being completely hypocritical.
You already conceded Kenobi stomped Bane without any weapons.. I.e. in hand to hand, because he couldn't escape Kenobi who was just too fast for him. But you said it didn't matter because it was hand to hand.
And now you're claiming Kenobi's slower than Bane in hand to hand.
Cad Bane can fly and has got all sorts of different weapons on him.
That has nothing to do with Khan, who'd get his head chopped off by Kenobi.
Provide Khan's superior speed feats or I'll gladly accept your concession.
He gave Obi his saber back but once he realized he was short on time and that it wasn't going to be easy he changed his tactics IMO. He did want to beat him on his own but he was uninjured. He changed his mind and due to the time constraints he didn't choose to pursue him.
He fled the battle scene. Khan didn't flee his battle scene. He also saved the enterprise crew to inquire about the torpedoes. Khan subdued Kirk and Spock who have feats. Kenobi has embarrassing losses while being armed. 😂
I already covered this so quit repeating yourself, troll. No, Yoda lost as he was disarmed and lost his positioning and fell. He failed. Palpatine remained atop the higher ground which is a huge advantage for these force users. Sidious tried fleeing at the start of the fight so why would he flee someone he just wanted to avoid a fight with ? Funny how you ignore that context and try to make something up. 🙂
Pre called for his men but he was neither disarmed or defeated. You pretending he was isn't the same thing. You also ignored Yoda being worse for wear while being disarmed to say he didn't lose. You're a dumb person. Khan would gun them down before they hit him. Khan doesn't need to flee while armed. He took down ships and greater numbers with relative ease. Obi has to resort to fleeing. Shame.
They knew he was right out in the open. They were rushing him. Does he have to announce,"I'm Khan and I am here to kill you." You're an idiot. theybhad ships and far greater numbers. He even used knives and took one of their own weapons. Be also one shot roundhouses one. He was on another level, troll.
So Obi fought and killed other clones. Yoda brought him. They worked together. Khan just annihilated a superior force with ships who Brit in reinforcements on their home world. Yoda waited to security was down and he brought a friend. 🙂
Bane already beat him in hand to hand with the armbar then the zap. Post the other fight. That still won't take away Bane completely outclassing Obi who had a friend aiding him. 😂
Yes, Cad uses his own skills but so does Obi who has force powers. He also had a Jedi friend. Based off what ? Jango had his jet pack destroyed. Did he lose his head against Obi ? Nah.
You haven't supported your baseless claims of Obi having super combat speed. I showed time elapsing a with Jango firing multiple blasts, etc. once it went hand to hand Obi seemed to be right around the same speed as a guy with Mandalorian armor on.
Khan wins.
Originally posted by quanchi112
You have zero combat feats for Obi, Yoda, or Sidious. You mDe a baseless claim. 🙂
That's all I'm doing.
Where are the Klingon's speed feats again?
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Originally posted by quanchi112
I already covered this so quit repeating yourself, troll.
Stop making excuses to address the points I made.
Until you address THE POINTS I MADE, I'll keep repeating it.
You calling me a troll? Where are Spock's speed feats again 😆
Originally posted by quanchi112
No, Yoda lost as he was disarmed and lost his positioning and fell. He failed. Palpatine remained atop the higher ground which is a huge advantage for these force users. Sidious tried fleeing at the start of the fight so why would he flee someone he just wanted to avoid a fight with ? Funny how you ignore that context and try to make something up. 🙂
What the heck are you going on about?
Stop trolling and address these complete difference between the Yoda/Sidious and Kenobi/Pre fights:
1. Kenobi beat Pre down who cried for his men. Yoda didn't beat Sidious down, and Sidious didn't cry for his men.
2. Pre's men fought Kenobi. Palpatine's men never fought Yoda.
3. Kenobi fled to save a girl. Where was the girl that Yoda was trying to save.
^ Address these point by point or I'll accept your concession that you are the TROLL of KMC.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Khan would gun them down before they hit him. Khan doesn't need to flee while armed. He took down ships and greater numbers with relative ease. Obi has to resort to fleeing. Shame.
Because he shot featless Klingons?
Yoda ripping through Troopers and Droids is more impressive. He would chop Khan's head of and you know it. That's why you're running from my battle zone challenge. You're crapping yourself at the thought of it.
Originally posted by quanchi112
They knew he was right out in the open. They were rushing him. Does he have to announce,"I'm Khan and I am here to kill you." You're an idiot. theybhad ships and far greater numbers. He even used knives and took one of their own weapons. Be also one shot roundhouses one. He was on another level, troll.
Keep crying about him cheap shotting Featless Klingons!
Originally posted by quanchi112
So Obi fought and killed other clones. Yoda brought him. They worked together. Khan just annihilated a superior force with ships who Brit in reinforcements on their home world. Yoda waited to security was down and he brought a friend. 🙂
Nah Khan had Kirk and Spock helping. Plus he cheap shotted them.
Khan's a nobody.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Yes, Cad uses his own skills but so does Obi who has force powers. He also had a Jedi friend. Based off what ? Jango had his jet pack destroyed. Did he lose his head against Obi ? Nah.
That's because Jango has advanced body armor, and Kenobi lost his Saber Dumbo!
You're so desperate when you're getting your ass kicked.
Originally posted by quanchi112
You haven't supported your baseless claims of Obi having super combat speed.
Urm, I know you're delusional and a liar, but yes I have.
I've shown you just above Kenobi dodging 3 rockets simultaneously all locked onto him. Show me Khan doing that!
Oh that's right I already won the feat war.
Just battle zone me you coward.
Otherwise I've won 😆
And I'll spend the rest of this thread rubbing it in your face! 😆
Originally posted by DARTH POWER
That's all I'm doing.Where are the Klingon's speed feats again?
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Stop making excuses to address the points I made.
Until you address THE POINTS I MADE, I'll keep repeating it.
You calling me a troll? Where are Spock's speed feats again 😆
What the heck are you going on about?
Stop trolling and address these complete difference between the Yoda/Sidious and Kenobi/Pre fights:
1. Kenobi beat Pre down who cried for his men. Yoda didn't beat Sidious down, and Sidious didn't cry for his men.
2. Pre's men fought Kenobi. Palpatine's men never fought Yoda.
3. Kenobi fled to save a girl. Where was the girl that Yoda was trying to save.
^ Address these point by point or I'll accept your concession that you are the TROLL of KMC.
Because he shot featless Klingons?
Yoda ripping through Troopers and Droids is more impressive. He would chop Khan's head of and you know it. That's why you're running from my battle zone challenge. You're crapping yourself at the thought of it.
Keep crying about him cheap shotting Featless Klingons!
Nah Khan had Kirk and Spock helping. Plus he cheap shotted them.
Khan's a nobody.
That's because Jango has advanced body armor, and Kenobi lost his Saber Dumbo!
You're so desperate when you're getting your ass kicked.
Urm, I know you're delusional and a liar, but yes I have.
I've shown you just above Kenobi dodging 3 rockets simultaneously all locked onto him. Show me Khan doing that!
Oh that's right I already won the feat war.
Just battle zone me you coward.
Otherwise I've won 😆
And I'll spend the rest of this thread rubbing it in your face! 😆
So you admit you concede your claim of super speed in combat. Wonderful. Progress. When did I say the Klingons had superspeed ? 😂
When did I say Spock had superspeed ? 😂
Concession accepted.
1). He hit him but didn't significantly hurt or disarm him. Facts. Yoda just fled after he was disarmed and fell. 😉
2). Yoda fought the two royal guards as soon as he showed up. You're quite ignorant. He also left before more men showed up. That's even worse for him.
3). Yoda left to save himself. It's worse for Yoda but they both still ultimately fled. Khan didn't need to flee from the Klingons and he still managed to kill the Klingons who threatened Kirk.
You're so scary with your threats.
A few of the Klingons beat up Kirk and had him at their mercy. That's a feat.
Nah, considering they lack coordination and intelligence. No, he couldn't nor would he be given the chance due to Khan's weaponry and accuracy. You're a fool. You had the chance and won't get another to waste my time.
They sent reinforcements and had a few ships on their own home world. They rushed him and he slaughtered them. You can troll all you want, it amuses me to see lie to troll me because I'm inside your head.
Khan subdued Spock while Kirk and all of them watched in awe of Khan. Khan beat everyone. Yoda planned to come at a time when their numbers were down with a peer. You can't change the circumstances. Saying Khan's a nobody is so childish but so enjoyable to see how far you'll go. You're desperate.
Yes, he lost his saber but wasn't even directly struck by the missile.m the force knocked it out of his hands proving powerful force can disarm him. Enter: Khan's Boolean gun. Thanks for admitting Jango easily disarmed him with a long ranged attack that didn't teen need to directly strike him. 🙂
Kenobi dodging three rockets isn't super speed. He simply moved out of the way in time. He couldn't avoid Jango's headbutt though now could he ? 🙂
Khan kills the guys with his guns and doesn't have to flee. Obi's a coward who flees and had to have Anakin save him more than five times. He's weak.
You're an idiot. Yes, I want you to respond. That's what I want you clod.
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