Originally posted by EmperorSidious2So if someone uses a cane because they are tired at that point but another day are fully rested then they didn't need it the previous day ? 😂
Actually I do. The simple fact that he is seen walking at the same speed and not limping or struggling to walk without it. However what's different in those two scenes. Sidious wasn't around his military commanders or troops or official officers or advisors. Only vader who knew him and Luke someone he didn't need to fake on really.Per evidence Khan loses.
Speculation.
What evidence ?
Originally posted by quanchi112
And you are not helping your argument but not understanding my clear and easy to follow points. This isn't convoluted, sport.
You'd have to go into the details then of the instances. Spider-Man doesn't get humiliated to the point in which Bane defeated Obi thus proving he doesn't have superhuman combat speed.
Spider-Man has trouble, and get humiliated all the time by the likes of The Vulture and Hobgoblin.
Those are normal foes of Spider-Man who are just equipped with good weapons and vehicles much like Bane. Except Bane isn't human 😂
Even going by films only, Spider-Man got smacked around by a normal wrestler
Your arguments are very poor.
But to be fair to you what else can you give us when Khan is completely out of his league like this. 😂
Originally posted by quanchi112
Palaptine said something to the effect, you're about to feel the full power of the dark side and then gestured his hands forward. So Yoda needs the attack to be announced ? Precog ? Oh that really hurts your fanboyism.
His Pre-Cog works better than Khan can handle against people firing guns, as I've proven over and over and over. But the Troll will keep trolling.
Yoda was clearly caught off guard by the Most Powerful Sith.
In Khan's case, he'd very very easily dodge any of his weapons even if they were fired, but fact is Khan would be frozen before he can even move, react or even think, as I've proven over and over.
It's okay Quan, Benedict Cumberbatch will give you a nice hug, and you will get a huge stiffy.
Originally posted by quanchi112
He did not fail to deflect Dooku's. Dooku was not on his level though and clearly outwitted him using his force powers to allow him to escape.Yoda also lost his saber later on. 💃
Yoda also fell from the pod so he wasn't strong enough to resist the Lightning even while armed and prepared according to you. He lost. Hahaha.
He caught the Lightning with his hands. And how's that relevant to Khan in any way shape or form. Khan got beat by Spock and Uhura 😆
He's out of his league with Palpatine, who by your own admission can shoot the Jedi who can instantly freeze Khan.
Khan will choke and cry and you know it 😂
Originally posted by quanchi112
So now you ignore the time frame and only focus on the force attack ?? Oh the irony. You can't give one example of him ever doing so. Look at the royal guards. They had time to aim their guns before he force pushed them. You have no examples of your scripted claims. Nothing. Nada. Zilch.
Wow! The butt hurt is hilarious!
Did the Royal Guards manage to shoot him?
Did the dozens of Clone Troopers?
Did the battalion of droids?
Nope.
I win. You keep making a fool out of yourself LMAO
Khan gets frozen. He has no feats of resisting such a thing. Nor does he have speed feats on Ventress's level.
Originally posted by quanchi112
You have not proven he is faster than Khan is with his guns. Khan as you yourself said fires what you deem cheapshots. He does not hesitate while Palpatine tends to sermonize. The evidence already shows the mandalorians had time to aim and say halt without firing. You make baseless claims and ignore the evidence.
I've shown you Yoda clearly moving faster, and clearly ripping through an army without having to cheap shot.
Khan on the other hand is just 1 opponent. He will be frozen. Palpation will choke him and make him cry.
Originally posted by quanchi112
You ignore the evidence and exaggerate their powers. I cite examples that back my claims. You don't. Enjoy mediocrity.
I've put the evidence in your face, which you haven't watched and are just dismissing because you know you've lost.
I've completely destroyed you in your own thread.
Originally posted by quanchi112
You ignore the evidence and exaggerate their powers. I cite examples that back my claims. You don't. Enjoy mediocrity. You are ignoring the fact they had him three seconds dead to rights. I also have Jar Jar defeating droids by mistake. He was tripping all over the place and clumsily taking out the pathetic droids. Droids aren't Khan and even these droids had three seconds of Yoda hanging out in their scope.Quit ignoring the evidence.
Jar Jar had the help of an army. And like you said he just got lucky.
I've broken down the examples you've cited, whilst you have to purposefully dismiss the evidence I present by outright lying and trolling.
Just go home. You've lost.
Originally posted by quanchi112
No, you exaggerated and denied scenes like at geonosis. We had elite Jedi at the mercy of the droids who are uncoordinated and walking targets whose maneuverability is less than optimal. You can't ignore the movies which are 100 percent canon.
Those were thousands of droids 😬
You're really getting beyond desperate. You're just embarrassed how badly I've spanked your ass on your own thread.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Normal humans even saying it is a baseless generalization since all fictional characters should be judged based on the merits of their feats and not titles.You are a pansy. Thanks for conceding that.
Cad Bane isn't human.
His feats of going toe to toe against Jedi are beyond Khan's feat of going toe to toe against Spock LMAO.
Originally posted by quanchi112
False. Windu initially jumped away from Jango and his equipment was damaged. Nor does Jango have the firepower or the feats of Khan.
Exactly. His equipment was damaged. Equipment Khan doesn't have. Proving Khan would get his head chopped off as easily as Jango did.
Did you not see the leaps Windu was capable of? He would easily dig Khan's firepower.
Khan gets his head chopped off by Windu pretty quickly.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Khan gained the advantage by attacking first. The Klingons had time to organize, deploy reinforcements, and have two ships assisting them on their friggin home world. The mandalorians didn't attack and they had him in their scopes. Palpatine won't have that luxury against Khan so based off the evidence while he foolishly approaches Khan obliterates him.
Khan cheap shotted them from a vantage point and with superior weapons (not his standard weapons btw). The Klingons also had to fight off Kirk and Spock.
Khan has trouble just taking out Spock alone.
Palpation would casually freeze, and choke Khan. Khan would then cry as Palpatine fries him with Lightning.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Yoda is greater than her at the same craft. How a lesser skilled opponent who possesses weapons and abilities completely irrelevant to Khan is somehow a valid point makes me question your intelligence.
Because she has superior physical artistes to Khan. Yet she was completely frozen and helpless against Khan.
Khan has zero feats resisting Tk. If Ventress can't resist his Tk, then Khan certainly has no hope.
Originally posted by quanchi112
You try to summarize the entire battle as a cheapshot while ignoring the clear context of the entire scene like a common troll. You are a troll make no mistake. You're an emotional one as well. It's quite enjoyable.[B]17-26 seconds in this video do we see Ventress use force based attacks and light saber deflection before Yoda uses his force powers against an opponent fighting other characters.
That's called citing evidence and actually examining the feat from the moment Ventress acted. That's roughly 9 seconds of her before Yoda reacts. That's pathetic. [/B]
And I'll gladly accept your concession.
Citing evidence in a time frame when Yoda wasn't even at the scene, is your final concession. You've basically admitted your have no argument, and I've defeated you, so you have to resort to outright lies and false evidence.
Go argue in the Khan vs Ahsoka thread now, see if you can even win that argument. Because you've been utterly destroyed and embarrassed here and proven for the liar and troll you are. You've been humiliated. I've completely destroyed you and exposed your Trollness in your own thread. Khan is frozen and helpless against Sidious or Yoda. I've proven it. I've humiliated you. I'm seriously laughing at you.
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Originally posted by quanchi112
So if someone uses a cane because they are tired at that point but another day are fully rested then they didn't need it the previous day ? 😂Speculation.
What evidence ?
He rode on the ship the whole time and basically sat down the whole way why in the world would he be tired? The scenario you posted maybe likely but being tired isn't really a reason to use a cane. What alludes to him being tired. He didn't do anything, so why would he be tired.
Actually it's fact that he wasn't around the officers or his royal guards or his advisors in the shot with him Luke and vader and we see he doesn't need his cane. So with that I stay true to the belief that he uses it to appear frail and old to his people.
He doesn't have any type of powers while Sidious and yoda do. He doesn't have any defense to the force so he can be ragdolled or shocked or,choked or crushed.
Originally posted by Darth ThorAnd your point ? Somehow you mistake super villains for human beings now. Weapons and other tactics negate speed. When did I ever say otherwise ? You yourself are betraying your own exaggerated claims now. Good.
Spider-Man has trouble, and get humiliated all the time by the likes of The Vulture and Hobgoblin.Those are normal foes of Spider-Man who are just equipped with good weapons and vehicles much like Bane. Except Bane isn't human 😂
Even going by films only, Spider-Man got smacked around by a normal wrestler
Your arguments are very poor.
But to be fair to you what else can you give us when Khan is completely out of his league like this. 😂
His Pre-Cog works better than Khan can handle against people firing guns, as I've proven over and over and over. But the Troll will keep trolling.
Yoda was clearly caught off guard by the Most Powerful Sith.
In Khan's case, he'd very very easily dodge any of his weapons even if they were fired, but fact is Khan would be frozen before he can even move, react or even think, as I've proven over and over.
It's okay Quan, Benedict Cumberbatch will give you a nice hug, and you will get a huge stiffy.
He caught the Lightning with his hands. And how's that relevant to Khan in any way shape or form. Khan got beat by Spock and Uhura
He's out of his league with Palpatine, who by your own admission can shoot the Jedi who can instantly freeze Khan.
Khan will choke and cry and you know it 😂
Wow! The butt hurt is hilarious!
Did the Royal Guards manage to shoot him?
Did the dozens of Clone Troopers?
Did the battalion of droids?
Nope.
I win. You keep making a fool out of yourself LMAO
Khan gets frozen. He has no feats of resisting such a thing. Nor does he have speed feats on Ventress's level.
I've shown you Yoda clearly moving faster, and clearly ripping through an army without having to cheap shot.
Khan on the other hand is just 1 opponent. He will be frozen. Palpation will choke him and make him cry.
I've put the evidence in your face, which you haven't watched and are just dismissing because you know you've lost.
I've completely destroyed you in your own thread.
Jar Jar had the help of an army. And like you said he just got lucky.
I've broken down the examples you've cited, whilst you have to purposefully dismiss the evidence I present by outright lying and trolling.
Just go home. You've lost.
Those were thousands of droids
You're really getting beyond desperate. You're just embarrassed how badly I've spanked your ass on your own thread.
Cad Bane isn't human.
His feats of going toe to toe against Jedi are beyond Khan's feat of going toe to toe against Spock LMAO.
Exactly. His equipment was damaged. Equipment Khan doesn't have. Proving Khan would get his head chopped off as easily as Jango did.
Did you not see the leaps Windu was capable of? He would easily dig Khan's firepower.
Khan gets his head chopped off by Windu pretty quickly.
Khan cheap shotted them from a vantage point and with superior weapons (not his standard weapons btw). The Klingons also had to fight off Kirk and Spock.
Khan has trouble just taking out Spock alone.
Palpation would casually freeze, and choke Khan. Khan would then cry as Palpatine fries him with Lightning.
Because she has superior physical artistes to Khan. Yet she was completely frozen and helpless against Khan.
Khan has zero feats resisting Tk. If Ventress can't resist his Tk, then Khan certainly has no hope.
And I'll gladly accept your concession.
Citing evidence in a time frame when Yoda wasn't even at the scene, is your final concession. You've basically admitted your have no argument, and I've defeated you, so you have to resort to outright lies and false evidence.
Go argue in the Khan vs Ahsoka thread now, see if you can even win that argument. Because you've been utterly destroyed and embarrassed here and proven for the liar and troll you are. You've been humiliated. I've completely destroyed you and exposed your Trollness in your own thread. Khan is frozen and helpless against Sidious or Yoda. I've proven it. I've humiliated you. I'm seriously laughing at you.
Post the clip so I can explain the context. My arguments are strong and supported by numerous examples. If you want to argue a normal wrestler can beat Spider-Man but ignoring the ck text go right ahead.
Khan is not out of his league and only a fanboy would say so.
You just said he didn't announce his attack thus making an excuse for him. Now since I have forced you to back down you want to ignore it. Khan's scene against a better coordinated and organized klingon crew than the droids Yoda needed help with by clones is proof enough. Yoda had help in both scenes where he went up against droids and clones. Khan worked alone. Facts.
So if a two second attack can catch him off guard that was announced what does that say about Khan's chances ?
So somehow Yoda showing up and cheapshotting her while she's attacking other characters gets ignored by you. How very ironic. Khan's shots take place in less than a second.
Yoda had his weapon. Khan did not. Yoda didn't crash land either. Yoda faced him alone. See the differences ? Context. It always matters.
A two second attack while forewarning Yoda wouldn't work since Khan guns him down in less than a second
You're silly.
The royal guards managed to aim so he didn't force push them faster than they could aim. They were also featless.
He had help against the clone troopers and droids. He often does.
When he didn't have help did he beat Dooku or Palpatine ?
Nah.
Yoda needed help from the clones. They said, "The general will not see them coming." Or something to that effect. 🤣
Khan guns him down far quicker based off feats. Your feat is Yoda attacking an unknowing opponent while she was attacking someone else.
Nah.
I've addressed these clips and you've just restates your baseless and exaggerated claims.
Yoda had the help of clones and another Jedi. He also faced a much smaller amount. I never said jar jar can destroy them with the efficiency or skill of Yoda I simply used the example to show how awful they are.
Just run away like you always do. You're weak.
There were not thousands of droids in that arena. You're lying. Some of the best Jedi couldn't defeat that band of rabble. Khan himself was alone and made mince meat out of Klingons and their ships.
I never said he was. Jango has as well. They are all in the same ballpark of perception. Khan and Sock are both better hand to hand fighters than any Jedi.
False. Khan's guns is more impressive and fires at a faster rate. He doesn't need to jump away as Windu would be put down prior to him closing the gap.
Baseless.
Those were his standard weapons. He forfeited his weapons when he went in as a prisoner of the enterprise. Khan was right out in the open. Despite attacking first the Klingons had time and men to mount a counter offensive.
Khan did but that doesn't matter since he has his weapons here. You wanting to take away khan's weapons is all too obvious. You lack faith, boy.
Based on ? Provide the feats for him. He isn't Yoda, boy.
She doesn't have a gun so how is it relevant ?
So you ad it Yoda snuck up and did so thus cheaptk'ing. She wasn't aware of him and he needed help prior when the destroyer droids showed up. The clones even say so.
Khan wins.
Originally posted by EmperorSidious2You do not know that. Why wouldn't it ? He doesn't have bus cane at the end but he's sitting while talking to Vader.
He rode on the ship the whole time and basically sat down the whole way why in the world would he be tired? The scenario you posted maybe likely but being tired isn't really a reason to use a cane. What alludes to him being tired. He didn't do anything, so why would he be tired.Actually it's fact that he wasn't around the officers or his royal guards or his advisors in the shot with him Luke and vader and we see he doesn't need his cane. So with that I stay true to the belief that he uses it to appear frail and old to his people.
He doesn't have any type of powers while Sidious and yoda do. He doesn't have any defense to the force so he can be ragdolled or shocked or,choked or crushed.
You're speculating.
The force users don't have a defense to the force either. Khan doesn't need the force as he has regenerative abilities as well as guns and the skill to eradicate Jedi.
Originally posted by quanchi112
You do not know that. Why wouldn't it ? He doesn't have bus cane at the end but he's sitting while talking to Vader.You're speculating.
The force users don't have a defense to the force either. Khan doesn't need the force as he has regenerative abilities as well as guns and the skill to eradicate Jedi.
Actually it's common sense. It's his shuttle, so therefore he would have a place to sit down. Thus he wouldn't be tired. You are just making up excuses due to being defeated.
With proof to back it and you haven't refuted it.
Actually they do it's called force shield/wall/barrier. Maul had insane pain tolerance yet he whimpered under Sidious power begging for his mercy. So his regenerative power won't save him. Sidious and yoda have the force which is far superior to any gun in any universe.
Wow Quanchi. You really are trolling to the maximum here.
Funny how you're trolling so hard here, yet keeping away from the Ahsoka vs Khan thread. 😆
We all know why!
Originally posted by quanchi112
And your point ? Somehow you mistake super villains for human beings now. Weapons and other tactics negate speed. When did I ever say otherwise ? You yourself are betraying your own exaggerated claims now. Good.
Cad Bane and Jango Fett are the equivalent of super villains you muppet.
They have the same kind of weapons (and other tactics) that Hobgoblin and Vulture have. The same things that you concede negate speed.
Except Vulture and Hobgoblin are just normal humans behind the masks. Whilst Jango Fett is the perfect human soldier. Fastest draw and best aim, whilst Cad Bane is the best Alien bounty hunter.
You lose. Again.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Post the clip so I can explain the context. My arguments are strong and supported by numerous examples. If you want to argue a normal wrestler can beat Spider-Man but ignoring the ck text go right ahead.
Did I say a normal wrestler beat Spider-Man?
Nope. That's you lying about my claims you troll. I said a normal wrestler HIT Spider-Man:
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2:30-2:45
And that's just a normal wrestler. He was no super-villain.
Here Spider-Man hits Dock Ock in the face several times, and he takes it:
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0:36-0:41.
So I guess that PROVES Spider-Man doesn't have superhuman strength, or speed, given his punches seemed to be normal human speed LMAO
Do you realize what a retard you're being yet?
Originally posted by quanchi112
Khan is not out of his league and only a fanboy would say so.
Clearly there's like 38 fanboys here then LMAO
Khan isn't even on Ahsoka's level as I've clearly proven.
Originally posted by quanchi112
You just said he didn't announce his attack thus making an excuse for him. Now since I have forced you to back down you want to ignore it. Khan's scene against a better coordinated and organized klingon crew than the droids Yoda needed help with by clones is proof enough. Yoda had help in both scenes where he went up against droids and clones. Khan worked alone. Facts.
I said he didn't announce it, and you said "Oh is he supposed to announce exactly what he's going to do"
You're the Excuse master.
There's no proof the Klingons are better than those droids or troopers Yoda took out.
Difference is Khan had to cheap shot them from a Vantage point. Whilst Yoda waited for them to attack him first.
That in itself proves Yoda's vast vast superiority over Khan physically.
Originally posted by quanchi112
So if a two second attack can catch him off guard that was announced what does that say about Khan's chances ?
Keep trolling 😂
I showed you him deflecting all that Destroyer Droid fire power. Were they all taking 2 seconds to shoot?
Nope.
If Sidious can shoot Yoda he will shoot Khan before Khan can even lift his weapons.
Originally posted by quanchi112
So somehow Yoda showing up and cheapshotting her while she's attacking other characters gets ignored by you. How very ironic. Khan's shots take place in less than a second.
You're funny talking about cheap shootting, when that's what Khan's best feat is based on LMAO
Great argument Exceot that Yoda let her go, and froze her again when she showed intention to attack him.
Yoda can freeze her (and Khan) at will. Any split second he decides to. Certainly faster than Khan can lift his weapons LMAO
Originally posted by quanchi112
Yoda had his weapon. Khan did not. Yoda didn't crash land either. Yoda faced him alone. See the differences ? Context. It always matters.
Context is Yoda got beat by Sidious, whilst Khan got beat by Uhura 😆
Originally posted by quanchi112
The royal guards managed to aim so he didn't force push them faster than they could aim. They were also featless.
First of all calling Royal Guards featless is Retarded. They're the ROYAL GUARDS, so Obviously the best.
And Yoda took them out before they could even fire.
He'll do the same to Khan. Smash his head in.
Originally posted by quanchi112
He had help against the clone troopers and droids. He often does.
Khan had help against the Klingons. Difference is Yoda didn't need to cheap shot.
Originally posted by quanchi112
When he didn't have help did he beat Dooku or Palpatine ?
How retarded are you. Help was on it's way when he faced Dooku. And he couldn't sneak into the Emperor's throne room with help.
Your desperation reaches new levels with every post!
Originally posted by quanchi112
Yoda needed help from the clones. They said, "The general will not see them coming." Or something to that effect.
Who says Yoda "needed help". He was deflecting their Fire just fine. A speed and coordination feat miles beyond Khan. Miles.
But I see you've still failed to provide Khan's physical feats which are greater, which is why your just trolling here instead, whilst avoiding the Khan vs Ahsoka thread like the plague 😆
Originally posted by quanchi112
I've addressed these clips and you've just restates your baseless and exaggerated claims.
You've failed to provide proof that Khan has the physical prowess: Speed, coordination, pre-cog and agility which Yoda has displayed in those clips.
So what you claim you've "addressed" is just you running away as usual.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Just run away like you always do. You're weak.
O the Irony!
You have a history of running from me. Running from providing superior feats, running from battlezone challenges, and now running away from a Khan vs Ahsoka debate 😆
Originally posted by quanchi112
There were not thousands of droids in that arena. You're lying. Some of the best Jedi couldn't defeat that band of rabble. Khan himself was alone and made mince meat out of Klingons and their ships.
There was was what? 20-30 Klingons? A lot of them dropped in afterwards. So Khan didn't take them all on in 1 go. And Kirk and Spock took out a few themselves?
Compared with the Entire Armies of Droids the Jedi were against? Try again.
Originally posted by quanchi112
False. Khan's guns is more impressive and fires at a faster rate. He doesn't need to jump away as Windu would be put down prior to him closing the gap.
He's not capable of hitting a Jedi of Windu's caliber.
Heck I doubt he could even land a hit on Ahsoka.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Those were his standard weapons. He forfeited his weapons when he went in as a prisoner of the enterprise. Khan was right out in the open. Despite attacking first the Klingons had time and men to mount a counter offensive.
Nah he dropped his big gun when he went hand to hand. That would be suicide for him against a Jedi.
Using weapons in 1 fight (that he doesn't even carry throughout the fight) does not classify standard. It was a one off. Deal with it.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Khan did but that doesn't matter since he has his weapons here. You wanting to take away khan's weapons is all too obvious. You lack faith, boy.
I don't mind you putting Khan with those weapons in vs threads. But fact is they are not standard, as it was a one off. And he didn't even carry his big gun for the whole fight.
I don't need to take his weapons away from him, because Yoda will do that very casually:
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I've kicked your ass.
Let's see if you can do any better on the Ahsoka vs Khan thread.
My prediction is you will avoid that thread, and keep referring back to this one, so you can carry on trolling here where everyone knows (and have given their verdict in the votes) Khan won't even last a split second
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Originally posted by EmperorSidious2False. You made up reasons why he didn't need them without proving it. You need to back your claims.
Actually it's common sense. It's his shuttle, so therefore he would have a place to sit down. Thus he wouldn't be tired. You are just making up excuses due to being defeated.With proof to back it and you haven't refuted it.
Actually they do it's called force shield/wall/barrier. Maul had insane pain tolerance yet he whimpered under Sidious power begging for his mercy. So his regenerative power won't save him. Sidious and yoda have the force which is far superior to any gun in any universe.
Nah. Force push was effective against palpatine and force lightning sent Yoda off the pod. Force hits force users just like non force users. Boom.
No, it isn't since none of their force powers to this point has left a body as wrecked as Khan's Boolean gun. Force lightning is pathetic tbh.
Originally posted by quanchi112
False. You made up reasons why he didn't need them without proving it. You need to back your claims.Nah. Force push was effective against palpatine and force lightning sent Yoda off the pod. Force hits force users just like non force users. Boom.
No, it isn't since none of their force powers to this point has left a body as wrecked as Khan's Boolean gun. Force lightning is pathetic tbh.
And I backed it because we see in the films he doesn't need it as he can walk without it. The movie then shows the people he used it around. The dude is 78 and has the power of the force why would he be tired when he had the cane and was walking at a comfortable pace. He wasn't tired you are just saying that because you lost this point.
Actually yes. Dooku blocked a TK'd sandstorm from Anakin, Anakin and Obi wan blocked a force attack from Dooku, and yoda, Anakin, and Ayala,secura use a force barrier to protect against a poisonous gas to,save the chancellor. Also the times you listed both combatants were overconfident and thus didn't put up force shields. Also a force shield can be overwhelmed by a user more powerful in the force or someone with a weak force shield. This is shown by how someone like Barris Offe was Abel to overpower the chosen One Anakin Skywalker.
As per the movies no. However that matters not as both yoda and Sidious can just disarm him of his weapons and ragdoll him and his regenerative powers won't be able to do anything. True force lightning is pretty freaking powerful.
Originally posted by Darth ThorI just posted in there and will go into detail once you admit you believe her feats put her above these guys. Feats are one variable of the equation.
Wow Quanchi. You really are trolling to the maximum here.Funny how you're trolling so hard here, yet keeping away from the Ahsoka vs Khan thread. 😆
We all know why!
Cad Bane and Jango Fett are the equivalent of super villains you muppet.
They have the same kind of weapons (and other tactics) that Hobgoblin and Vulture have. The same things that you concede negate speed.
Except Vulture and Hobgoblin are just normal humans behind the masks. Whilst Jango Fett is the perfect human soldier. Fastest draw and best aim, whilst Cad Bane is the best Alien bounty hunter.
You lose. Again.
Did I say a normal wrestler beat Spider-Man?
Nope. That's you lying about my claims you troll. I said a normal wrestler HIT Spider-Man:
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2:30-2:45
And that's just a normal wrestler. He was no super-villain.
Here Spider-Man hits Dock Ock in the face several times, and he takes it:
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0:36-0:41.
So I guess that PROVES Spider-Man doesn't have superhuman strength, or speed, given his punches seemed to be normal human speed LMAO
Do you realize what a retard you're being yet?
Clearly there's like 38 fanboys here then LMAO
Khan isn't even on Ahsoka's level as I've clearly proven.
I said he didn't announce it, and you said "Oh is he supposed to announce exactly what he's going to do"
You're the Excuse master.
There's no proof the Klingons are better than those droids or troopers Yoda took out.
Difference is Khan had to cheap shot them from a Vantage point. Whilst Yoda waited for them to attack him first.
That in itself proves Yoda's vast vast superiority over Khan physically.
Keep trolling 😂
I showed you him deflecting all that Destroyer Droid fire power. Were they all taking 2 seconds to shoot?
Nope.
If Sidious can shoot Yoda he will shoot Khan before Khan can even lift his weapons.
You're funny talking about cheap shootting, when that's what Khan's best feat is based on LMAO
Great argument Exceot that Yoda let her go, and froze her again when she showed intention to attack him.
Yoda can freeze her (and Khan) at will. Any split second he decides to. Certainly faster than Khan can lift his weapons LMAO
Context is Yoda got beat by Sidious, whilst Khan got beat by Uhura 😆
First of all calling Royal Guards featless is Retarded. They're the ROYAL GUARDS, so Obviously the best.
And Yoda took them out before they could even fire.
He'll do the same to Khan. Smash his head in.
Khan had help against the Klingons. Difference is Yoda didn't need to cheap shot.
How retarded are you. Help was on it's way when he faced Dooku. And he couldn't sneak into the Emperor's throne room with help.
Your desperation reaches new levels with every post!
Who says Yoda "needed help". He was deflecting their Fire just fine. A speed and coordination feat miles beyond Khan. Miles.
But I see you've still failed to provide Khan's physical feats which are greater, which is why your just trolling here instead, whilst avoiding the Khan vs Ahsoka thread like the plague 😆
You've failed to provide proof that Khan has the physical prowess: Speed, coordination, pre-cog and agility which Yoda has displayed in those clips.
So what you claim you've "addressed" is just you running away as usual.
O the Irony!
You have a history of running from me. Running from providing superior feats, running from battlezone challenges, and now running away from a Khan vs Ahsoka debate 😆
There was was what? 20-30 Klingons? A lot of them dropped in afterwards. So Khan didn't take them all on in 1 go. And Kirk and Spock took out a few themselves?
Compared with the Entire Armies of Droids the Jedi were against? Try again.
He's not capable of hitting a Jedi of Windu's caliber.
Heck I doubt he could even land a hit on Ahsoka.
Nah he dropped his big gun when he went hand to hand. That would be suicide for him against a Jedi.
Using weapons in 1 fight (that he doesn't even carry throughout the fight) does not classify standard. It was a one off. Deal with it.
I don't mind you putting Khan with those weapons in vs threads. But fact is they are not standard, as it was a one off. And he didn't even carry his big gun for the whole fight.
I don't need to take his weapons away from him, because Yoda will do that very casually:
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I've kicked your ass.
Let's see if you can do any better on the Ahsoka vs Khan thread.
My prediction is you will avoid that thread, and keep referring back to this one, so you can carry on trolling here where everyone knows (and have given their verdict in the votes) Khan won't even last a split second
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No, they aren't. Super villains from the Star Wars films are Palpatine, Vader, Maul, And Dooku. They are just villains in their movies not the super ones. Ironic you use the term muppet when Yoda is a muppet.
Just as Khan does. Cha ching. Point:Quan. Difference is Jedi and with aren't functionally faster than Khan in hand to hand combat.
No. They are the super villains of their films whereas Jango is just a small time role as the bounty hunter. He can compete with the Jedi but he isn't the super villain of his movie. He's a blip on the radar compared to Palpatine. He's a super villain, noob.
I always win. Always.
So him being cheapshotted while he avoided him is proof ? Spider-Man beat the shit out of him at 2:57 on after he fought back he easily won. You lying about e context is par for the course. Your double standards are nauseating.
Spider-Man does have super combat speed unlike the Jedi. Doc Ock is a super villain, fool.
Yes, this is a Star Wars site. So it shouldn't be shocking you fanboys perpetuate the myths of the force. No, you haven't. You also ignore the facts she isn't in yodas level.
He did make his intentions very clear. He announced it. I knew he was going got attack and anyone with a brain should have known. My of course you and Yoda didn't see it coming.
We see the coordination, formation, maneuverability and tactics they use are greater than the droids. Yoda also needed aid. The clones made it clear Yoda wouldn't see them coming. That's your proof blowing up in your face.
Khan didn't take them all out and Yoda needed aid. Khan didn't. Yoda also needed to cheap force power against Ventress. Then he needed aid by the clones while he held her in check. Oh the irony.
Khan >>>Klingons while Yoda needed clone help twice. They even said it making it more embarrassing against slower foes who had him in their scope for three seconds. 😂
In that instance sure. In the instance I discussed, nah. In Palpatine's instance a two second attack. Evidence.
You can't dismiss the time the attacks took. Khan takes far less time than two seconds thus he wins. Palaptine also forewarned him.
No, you're ignoring the rest of the fight. Yoda also took her by surprise and she's an inferior opponent. He also had aid from the clones. Khan doesn't need help. One man wrecking crew.
Yoda isn't cheapshotting here. Khan also has long ranged weapons. Boom.
Uhura never beat Khan. You're ignoring the context and the fact he was weapon less. Sidious beat him in a fair fight.
So no feats but you want to pretend they are badass. Oh the double standards. You're a troll. They had time to aim so feat less guys can even aim on him. Great. Khan has feats and better firepower. Boom.
Not according to Kirk. Khan was against two crews and came out on top. Yoda had help. Undeniable. They aided him.
So he failed to beat an inferior in Dooku. He also failed to beat Palpatine. What a chump. He beat Ventress the chick Dooku owned throughout the series. Lol.
The Clones said it in the clip. quit ignoring it.
Khan uses guns and crushing a skull. I already said this. Teehee.
Klingon scene. Two second attack that was forewarned ko'd Yoda. 😂
I have done more battkezones than anyone, I have more posts than you four times over. You already accepted one and backed down the day of. Gutless.
How many droids were there ? How many Jedi were there ? Awful. Khan took out two ships as well as subduing Spock and crew. Yoda had Obi accompany him against that small number of clones far less than the number of Klingons with preparation.
Based on ?
Order 66. Lol.
He went mobile so of course he didn't jump with the gun in his shoulder. Against one Jedi he isn't going to have to go mobile so irrelevant. Those are his stab dare weapons but you wanting to argue they don't count is proof I have won, this is amazing. Concession accepted.
Those were his standard weapons. He used what he had access to throughout the film but isn't as dependent as a Jedi is with his saber.
You have always been wrong so saying I'll avoid that thread when I posted there first is indeed another blunder in your lifetime of blunders. You're a bad poster.m you often lie, misrepresent, and exaggerate because you're outclassed.
Khan wins.
^ Will address your post later Troll.
But seen the video again, and really not sure why you keep going on about Cad Bane fighting Jedi (except that you're a Troll). This is the video where Bane "defeats" Obi-Wan:
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Firstly they're trying to capture Bane. Not kill him. So they were not going all out at all.
Quinlan Vos gets "defeated" by Bane when Bane's droid attacks him from behind, while he's facing Bane. (Proof that even Cad Bane knows not to go toe to toe against a Jedi.) He later flies to keep his distance and uses a Flame thrower when Vos gets close to him.
Kenobi gets "defeated" by Bane when he grabs hold of Kenobi's "2nd" Saber, which is actually Vos's Saber, lasts about 3 seconds in a Saber fight before Kenobi disarms him. And then while Kenobi's distracted seeing where Vos's Lightsaber has gone, Bane uses the opportunity to get Kenobi into an arm lock.
Even then an armlock isn't enough to disarm Kenobi, so he has to electrocute Kenobi.
The remarkable thing about that video is just look at the leaps Kenobi and Vos are doing. Their speed and agility is clearly beyond Khan. In fact I'd say all the combatants on the field here are well above Khan.
So to summarize:
1. Bane was flying firing dual blasters (quick rapid fire, and powerful enough blasts to explode the landscapes they were standing on), firing darts, flamethrowers and electrocuting (basically doing things Khan can't).
2. Bane was desperately trying to keep his distance. He was smart enough to avoid hand to hand with the Jedi.
3. The Jedi were attempting to "capture" Bane, clearly not going all out.
4. Bane's "defeats" were down to cheap shots.
5. The longest close combat fighting was Bane lasting 3 seconds in a Saber fight against Kenobi.
6. Bane himself showed very impressive speed, aim, agility and coordination and is much better equipped than Khan. He's definitely above human level even without weapons.
Originally posted by Darth ThorJedi for the most part are keepers of the peace so acting like this is an isolated incident ignores so much canon I am almost shocked darth troll would bring it up. We even see Anakin defeat Dooku and he was urged to kill him at Palpatine's request. So he didn't go into the fight wanting to kill him either yet he easily brought Dooku down and at a point of complete submission to him.
^ Will address your post later Troll.But seen the video again, and really not sure why you keep going on about Cad Bane fighting Jedi (except that you're a Troll). This is the video where Bane "defeats" Obi-Wan:
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Firstly they're trying to capture Bane. Not kill him. So they were not going all out at all.
Quinlan Vos gets "defeated" by Bane when Bane's droid attacks him from behind, while he's facing Bane. (Proof that even Cad Bane knows not to go toe to toe against a Jedi.) He later flies to keep his distance and uses a Flame thrower when Vos gets close to him.
Kenobi gets "defeated" by Bane when he grabs hold of Kenobi's "2nd" Saber, which is actually Vos's Saber, lasts about 3 seconds in a Saber fight before Kenobi disarms him. And then while Kenobi's distracted seeing where Vos's Lightsaber has gone, Bane uses the opportunity to get Kenobi into an arm lock.
Even then an armlock isn't enough to disarm Kenobi, so he has to electrocute Kenobi.
The remarkable thing about that video is just look at the leaps Kenobi and Vos are doing. Their speed and agility is clearly beyond Khan. In fact I'd say all the combatants on the field here are well above Khan.
So to summarize:
1. Bane was flying firing dual blasters (quick rapid fire, and powerful enough blasts to explode the landscapes they were standing on), firing darts, flamethrowers and electrocuting (basically doing things Khan can't).
2. Bane was desperately trying to keep his distance. He was smart enough to avoid hand to hand with the Jedi.
3. The Jedi were attempting to "capture" Bane, clearly not going all out.
4. Bane's "defeats" were down to cheap shots.
5. The longest close combat fighting was Bane lasting 3 seconds in a Saber fight against Kenobi.
6. Bane himself showed very impressive speed, aim, agility and coordination and is much better equipped than Khan. He's definitely above human level even without weapons.
Here are the facts.
27 seconds in Cad ties up Vos while he's just running away on foot firing his blasters.
42 seconds in the rock pillar holding up Obi is gunned down. Obi needs time to recover while Vos now continues the pursuit of two on one. 52 seconds in after a droid helps distract him Bane kicks him off while Obi now continues the pursuit. Two on one so it really shouldn't matter since its two on one anyways to even out the unfair advantages. 1:01 in is the first time we see Bane use his flight boots. 1:23 in after Bane disarms Obi and his second light saber they fight one on one. Bane doesn't have the training with a laser sword yet he isn't decimated despite Obi's specialized training. 1:27 in after Obi disarms his saber Bane then quickly acts and electrocutes him out. He showed he was more than quick enough to fight at the jedis strength up close and personal and come out victorious.
