Khan Noonien Singh vs. Palpatine

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Khan lost to Spock/Uhura, Palpatine would one shot both them.

Originally posted by playa1258
Khan lost to Spock/Uhura, Palpatine would one shot both them.
Khan didn't have any weapons and they both did at one point. Khan was about to kill Spock. Context. Khan has his weapons here making your post irrelevant.

Sheev was disarmed and at Windu's mercy despite being armed. Khan would oneshot Windu.

Originally posted by quanchi112
So you believe all four arms made the force push ? Are you sure about that ?

It didn't hit instantly. It took time for yoda to move his hand in his direction. You have to quantify it dummy. Khan fires and it comes out instantly by your ridiculous double standards.

No, he wasn't. It took him a lot of time to defeat them. Fact.

Speculation.

So you're unaware of it and quite ignorant, it figures you never were a smart Star Wars fan. You're just the dumb fanatical type.

Positive. He can use the force through all arms as seen by how all other force weilders can use the force through all their arms. Also how Ventress used both arms to,choke a group of smugglers.

Instant.

To the Jedi masters it took 10 seconds. For maul and oppress he took his time and toyed around with them. He really could,have killed them when he had them pinned against a wall.

Fact.

I'm unaware of it because it doesn't exist. If it existed I would no about it. I see your describing yourself again.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Positive. He can use the force through all arms as seen by how all other force weilders can use the force through all their arms. Also how Ventress used both arms to,choke a group of smugglers.

Instant.

To the Jedi masters it took 10 seconds. For maul and oppress he took his time and toyed around with them. He really could,have killed them when he had them pinned against a wall.

Fact.

I'm unaware of it because it doesn't exist. If it existed I would no about it. I see your describing yourself again.

I am saying did he use all four arms in that scene ?

No, it takes time to move his arm or concentrate to do so.

Speculation. He didn't call log my of the Jedi masters rivals and Windu disarmed him.

Absurd.

It does exist. You're ignorance is indeed hilariously pathetic.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I am saying did he use all four arms in that scene ?

No, it takes time to move his arm or concentrate to do so.

Speculation. He didn't call log my of the Jedi masters rivals and Windu disarmed him.

Absurd.

It does exist. You're ignorance is indeed hilariously pathetic.

Yes I just re watched the video. I can repost it if you like. https://youtu.be/oPvNkIPFdI8

You and I take scene timings differently. I take it from the moment he lifted his arm which was pretty instant. You take in other factors that really haven't taken preselected over these battle at least not all. For instance when Dooku used a force push on Anakin on tatooine he just used it and it hit instantly. He was pretty much already concentrating. You take concentration way out of proportion.

No it's fact. I just counted the seconds and from where I counted it took 10 seconds. He didn't need to. At the end I of the day maul was just another pawn in sidious' plan. Sidious was able to deal away with maul easily showing he isn't a rival in terms of skill. He was a rival Sith faction. While I agree maul would be above the three Jedi master and below windu anywhere in that gap Sidiosu can easily destroy or destroy with difficulty.

Well it's fact.

I belive I may know what you're referring to. He doesn't say either answer is correct. He describes the scene. If it were that easy we wouldn't have this discussion.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Yes I just re watched the video. I can repost it if you like. https://youtu.be/oPvNkIPFdI8

You and I take scene timings differently. I take it from the moment he lifted his arm which was pretty instant. You take in other factors that really haven't taken preselected over these battle at least not all. For instance when Dooku used a force push on Anakin on tatooine he just used it and it hit instantly. He was pretty much already concentrating. You take concentration way out of proportion.

No it's fact. I just counted the seconds and from where I counted it took 10 seconds. He didn't need to. At the end I of the day maul was just another pawn in sidious' plan. Sidious was able to deal away with maul easily showing he isn't a rival in terms of skill. He was a rival Sith faction. While I agree maul would be above the three Jedi master and below windu anywhere in that gap Sidiosu can easily destroy or destroy with difficulty.

Well it's fact.

I belive I may know what you're referring to. He doesn't say either answer is correct. He describes the scene. If it were that easy we wouldn't have this discussion.

That is because you're ignoring it takes time to move his arms. If I shoot a ball it isn't instant. I have to move my arms to shoot. You would say the moment it leaves your hands is instant because you're a moron.

It still took time. We see his hands move and gesture. 😂

So you believe that they were a rival sith faction that Sheev easily took out. You don't make any sense. He was a rival he was superior to still. That's all.

He said Windu overcame him. That means Sheev didn't throw the fight. 😂

You're a retarded fanboy.

Originally posted by quanchi112
That is because you're ignoring it takes time to move his arms. If I shoot a ball it isn't instant. I have to move my arms to shoot. You would say the moment it leaves your hands is instant because you're a moron.

It still took time. We see his hands move and gesture. 😂

So you believe that they were a rival sith faction that Sheev easily took out. You don't make any sense. He was a rival he was superior to still. That's all.

He said Windu overcame him. That means Sheev didn't throw the fight. 😂

You're a retarded fanboy.

Yes that's where I take the time for certain instances. I jus get form when it leaves their hand not how long it takes for them to lift their hands.

How long it took the push work the moment he lifted his hand is where I judge.

No a Sith faction. The rule of two. Maul was the master and had a Sith apprentice and was growing in power by taking over mandalore.

That's not necessarily want it means. Just means he overcame here. Doesn't state that he legitimately beat him. He just overcame him. There is no official answer as Lucas has purposely left out the answer.

You're just desperate.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Yes that's where I take the time for certain instances. I jus get form when it leaves their hand not how long it takes for them to lift their hands.

How long it took the push work the moment he lifted his hand is where I judge.

No a Sith faction. The rule of two. Maul was the master and had a Sith apprentice and was growing in power by taking over mandalore.

That's not necessarily want it means. Just means he overcame here. Doesn't state that he legitimately beat him. He just overcame him. There is no official answer as Lucas has purposely left out the answer.

You're just desperate.

You have to time the entire movement, sport.

That's because you're stupid.

You speculate. Maul as a sith rivaled him along with his ambitions. Sidious went there and prevailed.

So you agree he overcame him there thus he didn't throw the fight since George said it. Unarguable.

Lucas also said Windu is at the top with Yoda and Sheev thus more backing that Sheev ain't above him, kiddo.

Film>>you.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You have to time the entire movement, sport.

That's because you're stupid.

You speculate. Maul as a sith rivaled him along with his ambitions. Sidious went there and prevailed.

So you agree he overcame him there thus he didn't throw the fight since George said it. Unarguable.

Lucas also said Windu is at the top with Yoda and Sheev thus more backing that Sheev ain't above him, kiddo.

Film>>you.

In certain instances. When observing for specific things you look for,different things. It depends on what you're looking for. We are looking for do force pushes hit instantly. We look at how long the force push took to it and we loo, at when he let it out to how long it,took form the moment it left his hand to moment it hit the person.

No because I'm smart and know what to lol for. You on the other hand have no business being on this website at all. Go back to pre school where you belong kid.

Showing that maul is not a rival in terms of skill. He is a rival in terms of being a rival Sith faction.

No I believe Sidiosu threw the fight. Until there is a quote from George Lucas saying that Palptine legitamently lost then I'm sticking with he threw the fight. U till he or Disney come out with an official response.

When amped with vaapad. When did he say that? Probably one of those small sentences he says in the commentary? However where did he say that. That is actually not true as Sidious and yoda are both above him. The novelization itself notes that windu is only a stalemate for Sidious showing that even 100% amped vaapad windu isn't enough to beat him. This shows that he is clearly below them.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
In certain instances. When observing for specific things you look for,different things. It depends on what you're looking for. We are looking for do force pushes hit instantly. We look at how long the force push took to it and we loo, at when he let it out to how long it,took form the moment it left his hand to moment it hit the person.

No because I'm smart and know what to lol for. You on the other hand have no business being on this website at all. Go back to pre school where you belong kid.

Showing that maul is not a rival in terms of skill. He is a rival in terms of being a rival Sith faction.

No I believe Sidiosu threw the fight. Until there is a quote from George Lucas saying that Palptine legitamently lost then I'm sticking with he threw the fight. U till he or Disney come out with an official response.

When amped with vaapad. When did he say that? Probably one of those small sentences he says in the commentary? However where did he say that. That is actually not true as Sidious and yoda are both above him. The novelization itself notes that windu is only a stalemate for Sidious showing that even 100% amped vaapad windu isn't enough to beat him. This shows that he is clearly below them.

No, we look at the time it takes to force push from start to finish not once activated.

This is why I don't even take your posts seriously because you're slow.

Continue to repeat yourself because you're incapable of rebutting my points.

Windu overcame him. You're quite clueless and ignore evidence of Windu winning with made up fanboyism.

Originally posted by quanchi112
No, we look at the time it takes to force push from start to finish not once activated.

This is why I don't even take your posts seriously because you're slow.

Continue to repeat yourself because you're incapable of rebutting my points.

Windu overcame him. You're quite clueless and ignore evidence of Windu winning with made up fanboyism.

Yes the moment it comes out.

No one here takes you seriosuly because your stupid.

I've rebutted every point you've made. It's me you need to rebutt.

Until Lucas says that directly the quote that says Windu legitamently won or Sidious threw the fight there is no official answer.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Yes the moment it comes out.

No one here takes you seriosuly because your stupid.

I've rebutted every point you've made. It's me you need to rebutt.

Until Lucas says that directly the quote that says Windu legitamently won or Sidious threw the fight there is no official answer.

No, we judge the time the entire movement takes.

You're a fool.

No, you repeated yourself in inane babble.

He said Windu overcame him which he did. Lucas sides with me.

Originally posted by quanchi112
No, we judge the time the entire movement takes.

You're a fool.

No, you repeated yourself in inane babble.

He said Windu overcame him which he did. Lucas sides with me.

Certain situations call for,different things.

Don't describe yourself.

I've rebutted you.

No you think Lucas sides with you. Lucas sides with no at this point and neither does Disney. There hasn't been any official Sidious threw the fight or windu won answers. There is plenty of evidence to suggest otherwise and as seen by your poll more people agree with that he threw the fight.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Certain situations call for,different things.

Don't describe yourself.

I've rebutted you.

No you think Lucas sides with you. Lucas sides with no at this point and neither does Disney. There hasn't been any official Sidious threw the fight or windu won answers. There is plenty of evidence to suggest otherwise and as seen by your poll more people agree with that he threw the fight.

When judging we look at the start and the end.

Irony.

Nah.

He said Sheev was overcome that means it wasn't fixed. Lucas said that as well as Windu is at the top level with few peers of the Jedi and Sith.

😂

Originally posted by quanchi112
When judging we look at the start and the end.

Irony.

Nah.

He said Sheev was overcome that means it wasn't fixed. Lucas said that as well as Windu is at the top level with few peers of the Jedi and Sith.

😂

Depending on certain situations we look for different things.

Windu has been shown to be powerful and skilled. However he is on the level of Dooku in his natural state. Whe he is amped then he has reached a temporary place with Sidious and yoda. Windu is defintly below yoda who is on par with Sidious so no windu is not on the level of Sidious and yoda in his natural form. Where does he say that. In the commentary?

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Depending on certain situations we look for different things.

Windu has been shown to be powerful and skilled. However he is on the level of Dooku in his natural state. Whe he is amped then he has reached a temporary place with Sidious and yoda. Windu is defintly below yoda who is on par with Sidious so no windu is not on the level of Sidious and yoda in his natural form. Where does he say that. In the commentary?

We are judging how long it takes for him to do it so we look at everything required.

Absurd. Lucas says differently. You don't even listen to Lucas. You are no Star Wars fan. You don't even have a sig. You're gutter trash.

Originally posted by quanchi112
We are judging how long it takes for him to do it so we look at everything required.

Absurd. Lucas says differently. You don't even listen to Lucas. You are no Star Wars fan. You don't even have a sig. You're gutter trash.

We are looking for how long it took the push to hit. With that we lol at when it left his hand from the moment it hit Sidious. Not that hard to,understand.

Again where has Lucas stated this. I've listened to the ROTS commentary several times and don't recall that. Windu is skilled but has been shown to be a tier below Sidious and yoda. I've defended Lucas despite you pushing him away. Having a sig is irrelevant. Don't describe yourself Quan. We all know you are low class but don't worry we will send you some money.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
We are looking for how long it took the push to hit. With that we lol at when it left his hand from the moment it hit Sidious. Not that hard to,understand.

Again where has Lucas stated this. I've listened to the ROTS commentary several times and don't recall that. Windu is skilled but has been shown to be a tier below Sidious and yoda. I've defended Lucas despite you pushing him away. Having a sig is irrelevant. Don't describe yourself Quan. We all know you are low class but don't worry we will send you some money.

No, when fighting we look at it all not just when the button or action is triggered.

Windu beat Sheev. Yoda didn't. Yoda didn't even beat Dooku and Vos has. Facts, kiddo.

Originally posted by quanchi112
No, when fighting we look at it all not just when the button or action is triggered.

Windu beat Sheev. Yoda didn't. Yoda didn't even beat Dooku and Vos has. Facts, kiddo.

We look at how long it took form when he used the push to when it hit to decide.

Sheev threw the fight IMO. Yoda stalemated him. Yoda is superior to Dooku as shown by their fight. Facts sir. Look at them more.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
We look at how long it took form when he used the push to when it hit to decide.

Sheev threw the fight IMO. Yoda stalemated him. Yoda is superior to Dooku as shown by their fight. Facts sir. Look at them more.

No, since in a fight he has to move his hand first. He doesn't start out already force pushing, dummy.

No evidence in the film to support that. Yoda lost and even states he lost.

Nah, no one beat the other. Dooku was not even disarmed.

😂