Re: Is God a just judge?
Originally posted by Greatest I am
Is God a just judge?This speaks of Jesus.
He was chosen before the creation of the world, but was revealed in these last times for your sake.The above quote shows this as Gods first actual judgement and shows his setting and accepting a bribe of a human sacrifice to corrupt or alter his justice and judgement.
Justice usually states that only the punishment of the guilty is acceptable to justice and that it would be unjust to punish the innocent.
God’s corruption of this usual justice is what the bribe or sacrifice of Jesus bought. Injustice.
If you elect your judges in your country, would you vote God in as a fair and just judge knowing that he can be bribed?
Is God a just judge?
Regards
DL
How's hell Satan?
Originally posted by dyajeep
if that's the case, then i apologize... just a tip, bro... use the quote button...
So this is the quote button. Is this the button I should have used, or the I button needn't have used? It appears to have included your last message to me. If I had used the quote button in the first place wouldn't it have appeared as though I was rebuking you personally?
I may be wrong. I'm new here
Originally posted by Breno
If I had used the quote button in the first place wouldn't it have appeared as though I was rebuking you personally?I may be wrong. I'm new here
yup, mine was the last post when you replied, so i assumed you're talking to me... but none of that!
welcome to the forum, Breno! 😛
Originally posted by dyajeep
of course, the person... my point is, it's not wrong to be a gay if you're not doing homosexual acts... i have some friends in our church who are openly gay, i.e. they are attracted to same sex, talks like a girl, moves like a girl... but he never dresses like a girl, does not engage in homosexual relationship and continues his service to God...as to women, i never see the Bible degrade women... by saying women are "weaker vessel" does not equate to "weaker sex" (not as the term we use today like degrading women)... women are weaker so men who are stronger will respect, understand and honor them:
"Husbands, likewise, [b]dwell with them with understanding, giving honor to the wife, as to the weaker vessel
, and as being heirs together of the grace of life, that your prayers may not be hindered."
I Peter 3:7 [/B]
"i never see the Bible degrade women"
Then you intentionally do not see it.
He shall rule over you ---- makes women forever less than men.
As to gays, if your God did not want them exercising their natures then he should not have created them as is. To do so and then deny them the use of those natures would be completely immoral.
Can you see that?
Or is your homophobia too deep to let clear thinking through?
Regards
DL
Originally posted by God
[B]So this confirms the "Man created God"
That is what Jesus taught.
He taught that the Sabbath was made for man and not man for the Sabbath. If you look at Jesus' other teachings as I will give below, one can extrapolate that God was made for man and not man for God.
The thinking shown below is the Gnostic Christian’s goal as taught by Jesus but know that any belief can be internalized.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alRNbesfXXw&feature=player_embedded
This method and mind set is how you become I am and brethren to Jesus, in the esoteric sense.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdSVl_HOo8Y
When you can name your God, I am, and mean yourself, then you will begin to know the only God you will ever find. It is to become more fully human.
Regards
DL
Originally posted by Greatest I am
"i never see the Bible degrade women"Then you intentionally do not see it.
He shall rule over you ---- makes women forever less than men.
not unless all women have a physical built of, let's say, Chyna (former WWE superstar), then i will agree that women will rule over men...
wake up to the reality, man. men are strong physically so they should protect their women, not the other way around. that's not even degrading women, it's caring for them.
Originally posted by Greatest I am
As to gays, if your God did not want them exercising their natures then he should not have created them as is. To do so and then deny them the use of those natures would be completely immoral.Can you see that?
Or is your homophobia too deep to let clear thinking through?
Regards
DL
even straight people are not obliged to use "their natures" or you just too inclined in carnal things? i know many homosexuals who devoted their lives to God and they are happy... and i believe those people are big candidates for salvation...
Originally posted by dyajeep
not unless all women have a physical built of, let's say, Chyna (former WWE superstar), then i will agree that women will rule over men...wake up to the reality, man. men are strong physically so they should protect their women, not the other way around. that's not even degrading women, it's caring for them.
even straight people are not obliged to use "their natures" or you just too inclined in carnal things? i know many homosexuals who devoted their lives to God and they are happy... and i believe those people are big candidates for salvation...
Thanks for showing us all that your religion has created a homophobic misogynous man.
Regards
DL
Originally posted by Greatest I am
Thanks for showing us all that your religion has created a homophobic misogynous man.Regards
DL
that's not homophobic, man... that's Biblical...
"Be vigilant; stand fast in the faith; quit yourselves like men; be strong."
I Corinthians 16:13
being a man means being strong... being the opposite is being women...
"The mighty men of Babylon have ceased fighting, They have remained in their strongholds; Their might has failed, They became like women; They have burned her dwelling places, The bars of her gate are broken."
Jeremiah 50:31
your illogical defense for women had twisted your mind so much that you don't see that there's nothing homophobic there... it's just plain truth...
Originally posted by dyajeep
that's not homophobic, man... that's Biblical..."Be vigilant; stand fast in the faith; quit yourselves [b]like men
; be strong."
I Corinthians 16:13being a man means being strong... being the opposite is being women...
"The mighty men of Babylon have ceased fighting, They have remained in their strongholds; Their might has failed, They became like women; They have burned her dwelling places, The bars of her gate are broken."
Jeremiah 50:31your illogical defense for women had twisted your mind so much that you don't see that there's nothing homophobic there... it's just plain truth... [/B]
But the bible is very homophobic.
Leviticus 18:22
Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.
Leviticus 20:13
If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.
I would say that putting homosexuals to death would be considered homophobic.
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
But the bible is very homophobic.Leviticus 18:22
Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.
Leviticus 20:13
If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.I would say that putting homosexuals to death would be considered homophobic.
the Bible is against homosexual acts, but not against the homosexual person...
Originally posted by dyajeep
the Bible is against homosexual acts, but not against the homosexual person...
Now that was an interesting read.
When a gay man stands for God's judgement, will God punish the act with hell, --- or will the person be sent to hell?
I hope you recognize how un-intelligent your statement is with your second thought.
Regards
DL
Originally posted by Greatest I am
Now that was an interesting read.When a gay man stands for God's judgement, will God punish the act with hell, --- or will the person be sent to hell?
I hope you recognize how un-intelligent your statement is with your second thought.
Regards
DL
nope, i just know how blind you are that you cannot see something out of the box... you can be gay or lesbian without engaging in homosexual acts, and being so, you'll be a candidate for salvation...
you're thinking that homosexual person and homosexual acts are inseparable... well, you're d@mn wrong!
Originally posted by dyajeep
nope, i just know how blind you are that you cannot see something out of the box... you can be gay or lesbian without engaging in homosexual acts, and being so, you'll be a candidate for salvation...you're thinking that homosexual person and homosexual acts are inseparable... well, you're d@mn wrong!
So, the bible is only homophobic toward homosexuals who have engaged in homosexual acts? Or did I misunderstand?
How do you feel about homosexuals? Just for context. There are many people who only believe parts of the bible, and not the rest.