Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
http://www.amazon.com/Revenge-Sith-Illustrated-Screenplay-Episode-ebook/dp/B000FCK29MI am flawless.
Del Rey > Amazon believe it or not.
Sorry to burst your bubble LeGenD, but this is the Revenge of the Sith Novel...
Originally posted by Kalen Sykes
1) Legends continuity cannot contradict or overwrite Canon continuity. This is fact. Legends is non-canon, except in the circumstance that Disney decides to bring information from it to Canon continuity, thereby legitimizing it. While I agree that TOR could be canonized in the future, until that happens, it's still Legends.
But ethics of debate is a factor. If we consider Canon continuity, Emperor Vitiate does not even exists. If we consider Legends continuity, Emperor Vitiate and The Ones have co-existed. All I see is that people are touting supremacy of The Ones without realization that Legends and Canon differ from each other as per latest canon policy. Either debate with Canon continuity in mind or Legends continuity in mind instead of mixing them up for personal agenda.
Originally posted by Kalen Sykes
2) The TOR Encyclopedia quote name Vitiate the most powerful does not extend past the TOR era, and if you disagree, please show me the quote that says he's greater than or equal to the Ones, because I haven't seen it. Also, as far as the Ones go, noone in the TOR era seems to be aware of their existence. Yes, I know Xendrek discovered them thousands of years prior to TOR, but unless he left a message for Vitiate to receive at a later time, we can't assume anyone knew about them, during the Cold War, just because we, as fans and readers, know they existed.
Xendor revealed the presence of The Ones to the galaxy at large, the Jedi and Sith Orders have been aware of existence of The Ones and proposed theories about them.
You tell me, how come Darth Plagueis knew about the existence of The Ones?
It had been theorized by Jedi and Sith alike that balance between the light and dark sides was actually under the guidance of a group of discorporate entities—the ones called the Celestials, perhaps—who had merged themselves with the Force thousands of generations earlier, and had continued to guide the fate of the galaxy ever since. In effect, a higher order of intermediaries, whose powers were beyond the understanding of mortal beings. But many Sith viewed the notion with disdain, for the theoretical existence of such a group had little bearing on the goal of making the Force subservient to the will of an enlightened elite. (Darth Plagueis)
I don't think "many" Sith existed during the era of Banite Sith.
Originally posted by Kalen Sykes
3) I apologize for the lateness of this response to our discussion of the quote about Yoda and Sidious being the most powerful practitioners of the Light/Dark sides, respectively, at the time of ROTS. Nothing has been overwritten, with the introduction of the Ones. By the time of the fight in ROTS, the Ones were dead, and Yoda/Sidious were the most powerful practitioners.
Yoda and Sidious could not be most powerful practitioners of light and dark respectively in history due to The Ones being part of that history.
Excuses can only get you so far.
Originally posted by Selenial
Sorry to burst your bubble LeGenD, but this is the Revenge of the Sith Novel...
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
In the Legends continuity, The Ones co-existed with Emperor Vitiate. Authors do not feel the need to explicitly assert that Emperor Vitiate > The Ones in a sourcebook. This accolade - The Sith Emperor is the most powerful Force-user who has ever existed - is explicit enough. The TOR Encyclopedia have been published about a year after introduction of The Ones to the mythos, this happened under supervision of LucasFilms, LucasArts and George Lucas. This implies that BioWare does not necessarily accepts conditions imposed on power of (BioWare) characters from others.
If you're going this route, then I'll inform you that Leland Chee's confirmation that the Father is the most powerful Force User ever was written 6 months after the TOR Encyclopedia was published.
I guess he does not necessarily accept Biowares opinions either. 😆
Originally posted by Nephthys
If you're going this route, then I'll inform you that Leland Chee's confirmation that the Father is the most powerful Force User ever was written 6 months after the TOR Encyclopedia was published.I guess he does not necessarily accept Biowares opinions either. 😆
Preach it, Selenial.
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Also, a pretty cool link I suggest people to checkout:
http://archive.wired.com/entertainment/hollywood/magazine/16-09/ff_starwarscanon
Leland Chee isn't the boss, Carrie Beck is.
The following accolades of The Ones are from Disney itself and LATEST or endorsed by Disney itself:-
In the mysterious realm of Mortis there exists a trio of beings able to wield the Force in ways no known mortals of the galaxy can.
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A mysterious force draws Anakin, Obi-Wan and Ahsoka to a distant planet, and its inhabitants -- a family of exceptionally powerful Force-wielders -- in an attempt to determine whether Anakin is truly the Chosen One.
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In an uncharted region of space, Mortis is an ethereal place that defies conventional description. During the Clone Wars, an immense monolith appeared in the Chrelythiumn system, broadcasting an ancient Jedi distress code. Anakin Skywalker, Obi-Wan Kenobi and Ahsoka Tano investigated the kilometers-wide artifact, and were drawn into a paradise realm inhabited by unspeakably powerful Force-wielders. These god-like beings were locked in an eternal struggle for dominance, which made Mortis the fulcrum of the entire galaxy and the Force.
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The Son was an embodiment of the dark side of the Force who dwelled on Mortis during the Clone Wars with his sister, the light-sider known as Daughter, and the powerful Force user known as Father, who tried to keep them in balance.