Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
And therefore the contradiction or disagreement at official capacity. A fact that I have highlighted many times.
Chee's quote came after Biowares and therefore overwrites it. And Chee was and is a higer level of canon than Biowares sourcebook. He has the official authority to retcon anything Bioware says if he feels it contradicts the true canon.
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Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
For those who do not know much about Star Wars Story Group:http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Lucasfilm_Story_Group?file=LucasfilmStoryTeam-TORGS.png
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
For those who do not know much about Star Wars Story Group:http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Lucasfilm_Story_Group?file=LucasfilmStoryTeam-TORGS.png
And unless Carrie Beck says Vitiate > the Father, this is irrelevant.
Admit it, I annihilated you. Again.
Leland Chee's Official Job Description:
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Originally posted by Nephthys
Chee's quote came after Biowares and therefore overwrites it. And Chee was and is a higer level of canon than Biowares sourcebook. He has the official authority to retcon anything Bioware says if he feels it contradicts the true canon.
He could be simply stating his opinion, it is a blog.
Official databank > Leeland Chee
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
I never disputed this.But ethics of debate is a factor. If we consider Canon continuity, Emperor Vitiate does not even exists. If we consider Legends continuity, Emperor Vitiate and The Ones have co-existed. All I see is that people are touting supremacy of The Ones without realization and Legends and Canon differ from each other as per latest canon policy. Either debate with Canon continuity in mind or Legends continuity in mind.
In the Legends continuity, The Ones co-existed with Emperor Vitiate. Authors do not feel the need to explicitly assert that Emperor Vitiate > The Ones in a sourcebook. This accolade - The Sith Emperor is the most powerful Force-user who has ever existed - is explicit enough. The TOR Encyclopedia have been published about a year after introduction of The Ones to the mythos, this happened under supervision of LucasFilms, LucasArts and George Lucas. This implies that BioWare does not necessarily accepts conditions imposed on power of (BioWare) characters from others.
Xendor revealed the presence of The Ones to the galaxy at large, the Jedi and Sith Orders have been aware of existence of The Ones and proposed theories about them.
You tell me, how come Darth Plagueis knew about the existence of The Ones?
It had been theorized by Jedi and Sith alike that balance between the light and dark sides was actually under the guidance of a group of discorporate entities—the ones called the Celestials, perhaps—who had merged themselves with the Force thousands of generations earlier, and had continued to guide the fate of the galaxy ever since. In effect, a higher order of intermediaries, whose powers were beyond the understanding of mortal beings. But many Sith viewed the notion with disdain, for the theoretical existence of such a group had little bearing on the goal of making the Force subservient to the will of an enlightened elite. (Darth Plagueis)
I don't think "many" Sith existed during the era of Banite Sith.
Contradiction and retcons are observed/verified through publication dates of content, not with timeline logic.
Yoda and Sidious could not be most powerful practitioners of light and dark respectively [B]in history
in due to The Ones being part of such history.Excuses can only get you so far. [/B]
1) That "accolade" doesn't mean anyone from TOR knew of the Ones' existence. They aren't mentioned at any time in the game or encyclopedia, so that line about Vitiate being the most powerful isn't an all-inclusive statement. Until something is written or shown that proves the Ones were known of in the TOR era, there's no reason to assume they were. Also, that quote doesn't apply to anything beyond the TOR era. It's not an all-encompassing encyclopedia, just a sourcebook for an era-specific game. The information is valid for that era.
2) Please provide proof that Xendor revealed the Ones' existence to the galaxy. The only information I could find had him telling Arden Lyn, but not the galaxy. Plus, I highly doubt he would reveal anything to the Jedi, since he was fighting them.
3) There may not have been many Banite Sith, but this over 2 millennia after TOR, so anything could've happened. Perhaps one of the later Sith uncovered information on the Ones. The fact remains, though, that nothing in TOR sources references them, so there is no reason to assume that a Sith Order the galaxy didn't know about for over 1000 years should be aware of 3 individuals the Jedi weren't aware of until TCW.
Forgive me, but doesn't that link say that Chee helped write the databank? Does Chee>Chee?
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Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Was he sleeping when TOR Encyclopedia got published?He could be simply stating his opinion, it is a blog.
Official databank > Leeland Chee
Was Bioware unaware that the Ones are the peak of power when they wrote that book?
And yet you take authors opinions on matters seriously, like Revan being able to destroy a building. Chee said definitely that the Father > everyone else. Case Closed.
The Official Databank does not contradict Chee's words in any way.
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
No, you didn'tStar Wars (official) databank represents official position of Disney about everything. Period.
Leland Chee wrote the damn databank you fool! And nothing currently written in it contradicts his statement one iota.
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Originally posted by Kalen Sykes
In that case, Vitiate's complete omission should tell you all you need to know. 😎
But ethics of debate is a factor. If we consider Canon continuity, Emperor Vitiate does not even exists. If we consider Legends continuity, Emperor Vitiate and The Ones have co-existed. All I see is that people are touting supremacy of The Ones without realization and Legends and Canon differ from each other as per latest canon policy. Either debate with Canon continuity in mind or Legends continuity in mind.
