Revan's Raw Power Comparison

Oh but it does. Because Revan, being a user of both the Light and Dark Side would be affected by the nexus on Droumund Kaas.

Originally posted by Nephthys
You mean dream Dooku, right? The guy who got shitstomped by Anakin in 10 seconds. What a badass.

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It's funny, I was just thinking that I need to stop being so aggressive in debates this morning but I still seem to be being needlessly sarcastic and mocking. Curse my filthy mind!

Originally posted by Nephthys
Eh, my basic point is the same. The energy needed to turn 2 men into charred husks is far greater than what is needed to kill even 2 times as many people.

Hardly.
Merriam Webster
Char-
to burn slightly or partly

As shown in TCWs and in AOTCs Anakin and Savage both smoke when hit by Dooku's lightning and thus are both charred, but neither of them are dead. So yes killing someone takes more power than charring them. In fact just because they weren't drawn to be smoldering after Dooku's attack doesn't mean they weren't.

Wouldn't a nexus weaken him by the same amount it amped him in that case? Revan was negatively affected by the nexus on Nathema, remember.

Probably not. Nathema was painful because it was ridiculously tilted to the Dark Side. A typical DS nexus makes it harder for LS users to use the lightside because it tempts them with the power of the Dark Side. Considering Revan wouldn't have to resist the allure of the Dark Side because he's already using it I don't think it'd affect him as much as it'd boost him.
(Kinda like in KOTOR II when you have the choice as a companion to embrace the DS and get a stat boost or resist it and get a stat decrease).

Probably not. Nathema was painful because it was ridiculously tilted to the Dark Side. A typical DS nexus makes it harder for LS users to use the lightside because it tempts them with the power of the Dark Side. Considering Revan wouldn't have to resist the allure of the Dark Side because he's already using it I don't think it'd affect him as much as it'd boost him.

Nathema was not a Nexus.

Nathema was the strongest nexus ever created.

Malachor V.

Doesn't Meetra say that Nathema is worse? And didn't Revan shit his pants on it?

Swtore does say that Nathema is the largest darkside nexus, if nothing else.

Malachor V made Nihilus.
Nathema made shit.

But, yeah Neph, where does it say Nathema was a nexus?
It was rather an absence of all Force iirc, the complete opposite of a nexus. 😬

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
But it would, or at least make it the same. For he would then have to put in the power to balance the weakened Light with the amped Dark. An incredibly hard task.

But the Dark Side as per GL is stronger than the light so it'd make the individual more powerful.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
But, yeah Neph, where does it say Nathema was a nexus?
It was rather an absence of all Force iirc, the complete opposite of a nexus. 😬

I know, its dumb. But it says it in Swtore.

"Lord Vitiate orchestrated the ritual and the planet Medriaas was consumed in the largest darkside nexus the galaxy would ever see."

It then ALSO calls it a Void in the Force, so idkwtf they were thinking.

Originally posted by Lord Stark
But the Dark Side as per GL is stronger than the light so it'd make the individual more powerful.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
When did GL say that? That goes against the whole Chosen One and Mortis trilogy. 😬

"...to become the most powerful Jedi, and the only way you can really do that is to go to the Dark side because the Dark side is more powerful. If you want the ultimate power you really have to go to the stronger side, which is the Dark side..."-AOTCs commentary.

That doesn't mean ds nexuses effect peeps stronger than it weakens the lightside users.

Interesting. However, that doesn't hurt my argument. Allow me to explain.:
Assuming the Dark's amp is greater then the light's weakness:
Let us make up a number assuming the nexus grants Revan a 5% power increase in Dark Side power.
Let us also assume, according to Lucas, it grants Revan a -3% depletion of Light Side power.
At the minute, Revan is still being amped by the Dark Side nexus from the 2%, but marginally.
However, Revan would still have to balance out the -3% and the 5%. He would have to lose energy getting them equal, which would be, for this example, 1%.
Yes, Revan would be receiving a 1% power increase.
However, Nyriss would be still receiving the full 5% power increase.
Revan would be a -4% weaker position in power then normal.
Ultimately, the fact Nyriss is on a nexus hurts Revan more then it helps him.

Assuming the Dark's amp is equal to the light's weakness:
If we take it still that they it hurts them equally, which is the more logical, and fits in par with the Mortis trilogy arch, Revan would be even more hurt by the Dark Side nexus, at a 0% powerboost.
He would be at a -5% weaker position in power then normal.

Either way, Nyriss' amp hurts Revan more then it helps him.

Also Revan wasn't exactly in top shape anyway at that point, so it doesn't matter.

👆

Originally posted by Nephthys
That doesn't mean ds nexuses effect peeps stronger than it weakens the lightside users.

So lets say Revan's DS= 60% of his power, and his LS=40% of his power. The nexus decreases LS users by 10% and increases DS users by 10%

60%*20%= 12% increase
40%*20%= 8% decrease.

So even if it affects them evenly Revan still has a net increase in power of 4%

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Interesting. However, that doesn't hurt my argument. Allow me to explain.:
[b]Assuming the Dark's amp is greater then the light's weakness:
Let us make up a number assuming the nexus grants Revan a 5% power increase in Dark Side power.
Let us also assume, according to Lucas, it grants Revan a -3% depletion of Light Side power.
At the minute, Revan is still being amped by the Dark Side nexus from the 2%, but marginally.
However, Revan would still have to balance out the -3% and the 5%. He would have to lose energy getting them equal, which would be, for this example, 1%.
Yes, Revan would be receiving a 1% power increase.
However, Nyriss would be still receiving the full 5% power increase.
Revan would be a -4% weaker position in power then normal.
Ultimately, the fact Nyriss is on a nexus hurts Revan more then it helps him.

Assuming the Dark's amp is equal to the light's weakness:
If we take it still that they it hurts them equally, which is the more logical, and fits in par with the Mortis trilogy arch, Revan would be even more hurt by the Dark Side nexus, at a 0% powerboost.
He would be at a 5% weaker position in power then normal.

Either way, Nyriss' amp hurts Revan more then it helps him. [/B]

No because Revan has a stronger connection to the force than Nyriss without the nexus thus gets a larger boost. In other words 2.5% of 100 is just as good as 5% of 50.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Also Revan wasn't exactly in top shape anyway at that point, so it doesn't matter.

Yeah him being on a nexus would mitigate this.