Jedi vs X-Men

Since my other was viewed as spite I have made a new one.

Yoda, Obi-wan, Mace, Anakin, and Fisto come into our world looking for an evil they sense through the force. The jedi sense they have found the evil in a new born baby who is a mutant. They encounter the X-Men who want to protect the baby.

Who wins?

Which X-Men? You have to include a roster.

X-Men First Class.
Professor X
Magneto
Mystique
Beast
Banshee
Havok

Professor X mind rapes the enemy into thinking that they are girl scouts, after Magneto takes away their light sabers.

I am on the edge about Professor X controlling them so easily since the Jedi also use mind control.

If Xavier can't get in their heads in time, the Jedi stomp. And that's a big if.

The fate of this whole battle rests with Xavier.

Xavier is unquestionably the greatest telepath here, but all the Jedi are (to varying degree of skill and potency) psychic, clairvoyant, precognitive, and telepathic. They might be able to fend off mindraping (Emma Frost did and she's presumably not as powerful as Xavier). Though this is speculation on my part.

Banshee, Beast, and Mystique are fvcked. Can't remember Havok's powers; in the few seconds it takes for the latter mutants to die, Magneto drops a house on the Jedi.

What in the films leads anyone to believe any of the Jedi could resist being mind-controlled by someone of Xavier's level?

Dunno. Their ability to sense occurrences across galaxywide distances, telepathically contact people across planets (especially if we take Yoda at his word in ESB about "watching" Luke during his galactic journeys from Dagobah), etc. all strike me as some quietly powerful feats. Since Emma was able to resist Xavier without rivaling him telepathically, I'm just speculating that they might be able to avoid outright succumbing to mindrape here.

Originally posted by The_Tempest
Dunno. Their ability to sense occurrences across galaxywide distances, telepathically contact people across planets (especially if we take Yoda at his word in ESB about "watching" Luke during his galactic journeys from Dagobah), etc. all strike me as some quietly powerful feats. Since Emma was able to resist Xavier without rivaling him telepathically, I'm just speculating that they might be able to avoid outright succumbing to mindrape here.

The Jedi are mentally tough. They might be able to resist Xavier long enough to kill him. Emma Frost easily resisted an inexperienced Xavier.

An Xavier who had trouble with like 3 CIA agents. Bald Xavier flash froze an entire mall full of people on a whim.

Originally posted by The_Tempest
Dunno. Their ability to sense occurrences across galaxywide distances, telepathically contact people across planets (especially if we take Yoda at his word in ESB about "watching" Luke during his galactic journeys from Dagobah), etc. all strike me as some quietly powerful feats. Since Emma was able to resist Xavier without rivaling him telepathically, I'm just speculating that they might be able to avoid outright succumbing to mindrape here.

That doesn't tell me they could resist the mind-control of a man who froze an entire mall and apparently edited everyone's memory so they'd not know it.

Emma resisted in her diamond-form, which is a mutant ability that apparently even blocks her telepathy.

Originally posted by Robtard
That doesn't tell me they could resist the mind-control of a man who froze an entire mall and apparently edited everyone's memory so they'd not know it.

Emma resisted in her diamond-form, which is a mutant ability that apparently even blocks her telepathy.

To be fair, presumably none of the shoppers were psychics and to my knowledge, Xavier hasn't demonstrated the ability to mindrape other psychics on film. There's no question that Xavier is the superior telepath, but we're speculating at this point.

Originally posted by The_Tempest
To be fair, presumably none of the shoppers were psychics and to my knowledge, Xavier hasn't demonstrated the ability to mindrape other psychics on film. There's no question that Xavier is the superior telepath, but we're speculating at this point.

He did so twice, iirc.

-With Jean to suppress her Phoenix form
-With Emma, once Magneto forced her to drop her diamond-form

Originally posted by The_Tempest
Xavier is unquestionably the greatest telepath here, but all the Jedi are (to varying degree of skill and potency) psychic, clairvoyant, precognitive, and telepathic. They might be able to fend off mindraping (Emma Frost did and she's presumably not as powerful as Xavier). Though this is speculation on my part.

Banshee, Beast, and Mystique are fvcked. Can't remember Havok's powers; in the few seconds it takes for the latter mutants to die, Magneto drops a house on the Jedi.

Originally posted by Robtard
He did so twice, iirc.

-With Jean to suppress her Phoenix form
-With Emma, once Magneto forced her to drop her diamond-form

To be fair, we don't know the circumstances of his subduing of Jean. I don't remember him mindraping Emma.

Xavier used his mind-powers on Jean to subdue and put up barriers in her mind, since she was a (at the time) weaker telepath than him.

IIRC, the Emma scene happened when they were in Russia at the Soviet military guy's house. I'd have to check though.

I'll have to recheck the scene sometime.

Xavier didn't "mind rape" Emma, but he was able to read her to get information.

Xavier at that that time was no where near bald Xavier's level.

Magneto makes them decapitate themselves.

To stand a chance, SW team would at least need some lightning.

Which they don't have

Jedi lose here to Xavier and Magneto. Jedi don't have much in the way of offensive techniques

Everyone else on team X-Men dies tho