Originally posted by Robtard
He did so twice, iirc.-With Jean to suppress her Phoenix form
-With Emma, once Magneto forced her to drop her diamond-form
Ahhh, yes, good points. This should settle the telepathy debate, then.
If Xavier could shut down a more powerful mind then it doesn't matter that the Jedi have mind control resistance: they don't stand a chance against Xavier.
On top of that, the Jedi use the Force and Xavier's abilities come from psionics. It's like trying to resist the pull of gravity with the color blue.
Originally posted by dadudemon
Ahhh, yes, good points. This should settle the telepathy debate, then.If Xavier could shut down a more powerful mind then it doesn't matter that the Jedi have mind control resistance: they don't stand a chance against Xavier.
On top of that, the Jedi use the Force and Xavier's abilities come from psionics. It's like trying to resist the pull of gravity with the color blue.
This statement does not make sense. The force is in everything and can affect anything. As I stated before Yoda is the same as Sidious who had control of the senate.
Xavier stated himself in First Class that he could not hold Sebastian Shaw who is not a telepath for long and needed to concentrate to do so when the CIA agent tried to talk to him.
He is in no way at this point going to control Yoda or perhaps any of the Jedi.
Im lost why people here are using bald Professor X's feats and abilities, when this is supposedly First Class X here, who as pointed out had trouble holding still Shaw, someone with no mental protection or training at all. That level X, mentally raping characters with such insane will and mental fortitude as Yoda, Sidious and Windu, is near laughable.
Originally posted by Kotor3
This statement does not make sense. The force is in everything and can affect anything. As I stated before Yoda is the same as Sidious who had control of the senate.Xavier stated himself in First Class that he could not hold Sebastian Shaw who is not a telepath for long and needed to concentrate to do so when the CIA agent tried to talk to him.
He is in no way at this point going to control Yoda or perhaps any of the Jedi.
Everything you said in this post is baseless. Basically, everything you said is empty speculation.
If Xavier could shut down a more powerful mind then it doesn't matter that the Jedi have mind control resistance: they don't stand a chance against Xavier because they do not have telepathy on par with or greater than Xavier.
On top of that, the Jedi use the Force and Xavier's abilities come from psionics. It's like trying to resist the pull of gravity with the color blue.
Originally posted by DTM
Im lost why people here are using bald Professor X's feats and abilities, when this is supposedly First Class X here, who as pointed out had trouble holding still Shaw, someone with no mental protection or training at all. That level X, mentally raping characters with such insane will and mental fortitude as Yoda, Sidious and Windu, is near laughable.
It's pretty baseless to assume Xavier doesn't destroy the minds of the Jedi for reasons I've already stated.
Guess what? Shaw was still pwned by Xavier. 🙂
Originally posted by dadudemon
Everything you said in this post is baseless. Basically, everything you said is empty speculation.If Xavier could shut down a more powerful mind then it doesn't matter that the Jedi have mind control resistance: they don't stand a chance against Xavier because they do not have telepathy on par with or greater than Xavier.
On top of that, the Jedi use the Force and Xavier's abilities come from psionics. It's like trying to resist the pull of gravity with the color blue.
Says you. I love how you like to state things in a discussion and never back it up. I gave the example why but you have given nothing as to why he would be able to control someone at the level of Yoda.
You say baseless what is yours? You don't have to except it but when stating something is baseless please at the very least try to back it up.
Sidious didn't control the Senate. He manipulated them with charisma, playing to their needs/wants and an endless amount of credits and resources to back up his claims and promises.
And them not being telepaths isn't the point. It's the point that he froze hundreds of people in moments. For that scene to make sense, he had to freeze the entire mall including the parking lot.
Originally posted by Kotor3
Says you. I love how you like to state things in a discussion and never back it up.
Oh, so Xavier DIDN'T mind-control Jean?
You didn't think your reply through, did you? 🙁
Poor kid...you tried soooo hard.
Originally posted by Kotor3
You say baseless what is yours?
What actually happened on-screen. 🙂
Thanks for playing!!! 😄
Originally posted by dadudemon
Oh, so Xavier DIDN'T mind-control Jean?You didn't think your reply through, did you? 🙁
Poor kid...you tried soooo hard.
What actually happened on-screen. 🙂
Thanks for playing!!! 😄
The problem is clear, you can't read or only read what you want to. No Xavier DIDN'T mind control Jean in X-Men First Class.
As usually your sarcasm fails horribly.