Originally posted by FreshestSlice
The Voice is just as strong as the Emperor. 😬Even if you don't believe that the HoT faced the true Emperor, the Hand tells the Wrath that the Emperor embodies himself within the Voice, while the codex says that the Voice wields his power.
The original body of the Emperor carries the effects of Natemha. It is immune to the corrupting nature of the dark side and yields more natural power than the Voices. Vitiate reached immortality with that body. Emperor's essence might be fully transformed to the Voice but it is still reduced by the new body's limitations. I think that is another reason why Vitiate performed extremely well against Revan and fell to HoT. His original body seems to make a difference.
Originally posted by Nephthys
Scourge also says that the Hero could become the Emperor if they wanted to.
LMAO Scourge is a retard.
Originally posted by Sinious
My opinions>people in game's
Originally posted by Nephthys
Scourge's vision seems to support the idea that the Hero will become the next Emperor though. In it Scourge hands the Hero Vitiate's crown after the Hero defeats him.
Dude why would the hands, the wrath and the dark council let a freaking jedi become the new emperor? He is the most hated enemy of the Empire right now and he would be killed the moment he stepped his foot in Dromund Kaas ever again.
Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Just as the last time you made this argument, you've given absolutely nothing to support it. Nothing in game implies what you're saying, and the Voice on Voss didn't suffer from Dark Side corruption despite being the Voice for a very long time and then also being possessed by an embodiment of the Dark Side.
I'm just throwing out theories to make sense to the inaccuracy of Vitiate's combat performances. Revan and HoT seem to be close yet HoT killed the Emperor and Revan got stomped by the Emperor. There is no evidence but I still think the original body of the Emperor will return and will be more powerful if they let the story continue in SWTOR.
Originally posted by Sinious
Dude why would the hands, the wrath and the dark council let a freaking jedi become the new emperor? He is the most hated enemy of the Empire right now and he would be killed the moment he stepped his foot in Dromund Kaas ever again.
Because she killed the Emperor. I mean, would they really defy her? You're assuming they could kill her. She'd likely walk into the Council Chambers with Scourge and beat the entire Council into submission.
Originally posted by Sinious
Dude why would the hands, the wrath and the dark council let a freaking jedi become the new emperor? He is the most hated enemy of the Empire right now and he would be killed the moment he stepped his foot in Dromund Kaas ever again.
I'm just throwing out theories to make sense to the inaccuracy of Vitiate's combat performances. Revan and HoT seem to be close yet HoT killed the Emperor and Revan got stomped by the Emperor. There is no evidence but I still think the original body of the Emperor will return and will be more powerful if they let the story continue in SWTOR.
Originally posted by Nephthys
Because she killed the Emperor. I mean, would they really defy her? You're assuming they could kill her. She'd likely walk into the Council Chambers with Scourge and beat the entire Council into submission.
I would understand becoming the dark lord of a more humble sith empire like Naga Sadow but becoming the Emperor of such an empire requires more. Also Scourge is a traitor and isn't the Wrath anymore. I really don't think the Sith Warrior(Wrath) would bow to HoT.
Sith arent so fond of bowing to another sith and HoT entering the dark council and declaring himself as the new Emperor wouldn't go so well for him. Vitiate wasn't just a replaceable dark lord.
Plus Vitiate isn't dead so his servants would also work against HoT.
Also lmao @ Scourge + HoT defeating 12 Dark Council members if thats what you're trying to tell me.
Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Why would they kill the person they think is at least the second most powerful person in the galaxy? Especially if they wanted to join their side? Hell, I bet they would take Revan back at this point, especially considering Revan said they wanted to take him back.Pretty sure even if that were the real body, the Emperor isn't dead. And first you would have to know how close said battle was and how it took place, which we simply won't until post-TOR.
Because being a bit more stronger than the most powerful council member isn't enough to become an Emperor. They could take HoT and make her replace Malgus perhaps but making him the new Emperor? I don't think so. I can't imagine the Dark Council obeying a 25 years old(at most) dark jedi without laughing. It would be the stupidest storyline of the entire mythos.
Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Actually, rituals are performed on the Voice body to house the Emperor's essence. It isn't necessarily as limited as you may think, if at all.
Yes, Emperor wields tremendous power within a Voice but this is an indication of his great command of the Force.
@Sinious
Your points are logical and nicely put.
Originally posted by Sinious
@ Nephthys so should I take your silence as a concession; that you've realized you were wrong and that HoT could never become the new Emperor?
Well I read your post and then decided to have some tea and a wank before replying but if you start laying down the burns that hot I guess I gotta step up.
Originally posted by Sinious
I would understand becoming the dark lord of a more humble sith empire like Naga Sadow but becoming the Emperor of such an empire requires more. Also Scourge is a traitor and isn't the Wrath anymore. I really don't think the Sith Warrior(Wrath) would bow to HoT.Sith arent so fond of bowing to another sith and HoT entering the dark council and declaring himself as the new Emperor wouldn't go so well for him. Vitiate wasn't just a replaceable dark lord.
Plus Vitiate isn't dead so his servants would also work against HoT.
Also lmao @ Scourge + HoT defeating 12 Dark Council members if thats what you're trying to tell me.
I think the Dark Council and the Wrath would probably accept Scourge's reason for betraying the Empire with the whole "he was literally trying to kill the galaxy" thing. Hell, they should give him and the Hero a hearty slap on the back for saving them. You're ****in' welcome for continuing to exist, jackasses.
If you say so. I think the Hero would be strong enough to back up the claim.
His servants are largely irrelevant. His cult did nothing to stop the Hero and the Wrath could be defeated or turned.
TBH considering the Dark Council has lost so many of their most powerful members its actually not that outlandish. Marr and Nox are the only notable ones left.
Well I read your post and then decided to have some tea and a wank before replying but if you start laying down the burns that hot I guess I gotta step up.
😄 I just couldn't wait anymore.
Originally posted by Nephthys
I think the Dark Council and the Wrath would probably accept Scourge's reason for betraying the Empire with the whole "he was literally trying to kill the galaxy" thing. Hell, they should give him and the Hero a hearty slap on the back for saving them. You're ****in' welcome for continuing to exist, jackasses.If you say so. I think the Hero would be strong enough to back up the claim.
His servants are largely irrelevant. His cult did nothing to stop the Hero and the Wrath could be defeated or turned.
TBH considering the Dark Council has lost so many of their most powerful members its actually not that outlandish. Marr and Nox are the only notable ones left.
hmm yes their reason might help them justify the deed a little.
HoT was strong and very capable in combat but like I said, the sith use the title Emperor very rarely. With all the moffs and the dark council under your rule, you can't maintain it by being a good combatant. HoT is stranger to the dark side and isn't powerful enough stay in that position. Mutiny would occur the moment he attempts to take over as the Emperor. He wouldn't be taken serious by the Dark Council too.
Im pretty sure they were unaware of what is going on and didn't expect the Emperor to fall. They were probably busy with the ritual.
If the Emperor sees HoT take over, he can simply send his hands and reveal himself as much as he can to prove that he is alive and can still come back. With Wrath opposing Scourge, Dark Council wouldn't even take him in. And even if the Emperor stays silent, and his servants(including Wrath) don't interfere, they would make him a Dark Council member at most. He isn't that impressive tbh. One insane combat achievement isn't enough to suppress so many sith.
Originally posted by Sinious
Because being a bit more stronger than the most powerful council member isn't enough to become an Emperor. They could take HoT and make her replace Malgus perhaps but making him the new Emperor? I don't think so. I can't imagine the Dark Council obeying a 25 years old(at most) dark jedi without laughing. It would be the stupidest storyline of the entire mythos.
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD@Sinious
Your points are logical and nicely put.
Thank you.
Originally posted by FreshestSlice
HoT is 23 at the most. Either way, age has nothing to do with it, considering Vitiate became a lord as a child. And the Dark Council has to obey whomever takes power. Otherwise, Baras wouldn't have been leading the Council for a yearish.
Yes but HoT has never showed enough intelligence to prove that he is capable. He is a good warrior and that's it. Baras slowly built his influence and used emperor's name and silence as an advantage. Brutally taking over is not the same thing.
Originally posted by NewGuy01
Isn't it? No one on the Dark Council dared stand up to the Wrath. You think they'd oppose the man that defeated the Emperor himself?
Well if the Wrath chooses to threaten them, they simply threaten him back which clearly shows that they weren't afraid of him but just cautious. Most importantly, they weren't so fond of Baras and Wrath wasn't trying to become the Emperor but just kill Baras.
Originally posted by SiniousYes but HoT has never showed enough intelligence to prove that he is capable. He is a good warrior and that's it. Baras slowly built his influence and used emperor's name and silence as an advantage. Brutally taking over is not the same thing.