Vitiate and HoT

Started by Sinious4 pages
Sinious Yo Da Best
Originally posted by FreshestSlice
So your argument is, "Marr's wrng, Scourge's wrng, I'm rght, agree or ur a fanboi," just because RotHC has some people who worshipped the Emperor? Okay.

Not really. Scourge's statements are opinions of a character. It doesn't mean that he is right. He might want to see HoT as the Emperor so he might be trying to encourage him but that doesn't mean HoT will be successful. We don't know the motives behind Scourge's actions yet.

The most important factor here is that Emperor isn't dead and he ruled for 1400 years. He obviously has a lot of influence over the empire and won't be so easily forgotten. Remember the last time a Dark Council attempted betray him? I think the current Dark Council remembers it too. They won't simply surrender the empire to a 23 years old dark jedi sent by the republic while their Emperor and his servants are still alive.

P.S What do you mean by that "Marr's wrong" thing? What has he said anything about this? I seem to have forgotten.

For the record, the HoT is an awful character, and I've always said that I like the Wrath better.

Agreed.

chilled monkey Senior Member
Originally posted by FreshestSlice
For the record, the HoT is an awful character,

Why?

No offence, that's your opinion and you're entitled to it. I'm just curious as to why you feel that way.

S_W_LeGenD Senior Member

Originally posted by chilled monkey
Why?

No offence, that's your opinion and you're entitled to it. I'm just curious as to why you feel that way.


HoT is another Luke Skywalker in the making.

FreshestSlice Eternal Commander

Originally posted by Sinious
Not really. Scourge's statements are opinions of a character. It doesn't mean that he is right. He might want to see HoT as the Emperor so he might be trying to encourage him but that doesn't mean HoT will be successful. We don't know the motives behind Scourge's actions yet.

That being said, Scourge's opinions > yours on how the Empire works. He's seen a lot more of it.

The most important factor here is that Emperor isn't dead and he ruled for 1400 years. He obviously has a lot of influence over the empire and won't be so easily forgotten. Remember the last time a Dark Council attempted betray him? I think the current Dark Council remembers it too. They won't simply surrender the empire to a 23 years old dark jedi sent by the republic while their Emperor and his servants are still alive.

Except they don't know that Vitiate wants to kill them all. The last DC that figured it out rebelled, what would stop this one.

P.S What do you mean by that "Marr's wrong" thing? What has he said anything about this? I seem to have forgotten.

Neph brought it up.

Originally posted by chilled monkey
Why?

No offence, that's your opinion and you're entitled to it. I'm just curious as to why you feel that way.


Aside from being called the greatest Jedi from the end of the starter planet, they are a character without weakness, ambition, drive, or purpose. They are filler for what everyone thinks a Jedi should be and act with little thought. The decision to either do, "Something stupid or murderous," on every other planet is among some of the dumbest I've seen, especially considering the other Dark or Light choices in the other storylines. None of this would bother me if the HoT weren't as 2 dimensional as a square, but even their voice acting is awful.

Most of these things would be forgivable, but the HoT being shown as without weakness is awful story telling, IMO. Every good character has to have some type of flaw, which the Jedi in TOR seem to lack.

Sinious Yo Da Best

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
That being said, Scourge's opinions > yours on how the Empire works. He's seen a lot more of it.

Except they don't know that Vitiate wants to kill them all. The last DC that figured it out rebelled, what would stop this one.

Neph brought it up.

I never said my opinions are superior to Scourge's. I said just because Scourge said so, it doesn't mean that HoT can actually become the new Emperor.

And the way Vitiate handled that rebellion serves the purpose of avoiding another mutiny. Like I said, his entire organization of servants won't just stand idle. HoT would be assassinated in Korriban before even entering the Dark Council.

FreshestSlice Eternal Commander

Originally posted by Sinious
I never said my opinions are superior to Scourge's. I said just because Scourge said so, it doesn't mean that HoT can actually become the new Emperor.

I'm saying that I'll take his opinion over yours.

And the way Vitiate handled that rebellion serves the purpose of avoiding another mutiny. Like I said, his entire organization of servants won't just stand idle. HoT would be assassinated in Korriban before even entering the Dark Council.

Except they actually think Vitiate is dead.

Nephthys The Gr8est!!!!!!!!

The Empire is losing the war, they might be desperate to accept the Hero and Scourge back for the power they bring. Plus I'm sure the Hero has access to incredibly valuable military information that could help turn the tides.

Sinious Yo Da Best
Originally posted by Nephthys
The Empire is losing the war, they might be desperate to accept the Hero and Scourge back for the power they bring. Plus I'm sure the Hero has access to incredibly valuable military information that could help turn the tides.

Which is why I say they would either put him in a position similar to Malgus or make him a dark council member. Becoming the Emperor is an entirely different story.