Thor: Ragnarok

No that wasn't me twisting the definition. I literally just gave you the definition and it's not a twist to say MJ falls under the definition of a powerhouse.

Why is this even a discussion? I'm not really sure why people specifying Hulk is merely physically superior to Thor somehow irritates you. I could understand if you'd specifically made a topic about physical strength and then people came in talking about versatility, but that isn't what happened.

If you were saying Hulk is the powerhouse in the physical sense and people are agreeing with you while saying Thor is more versatile..wait, what is the issue with that?

Screen Rant agree's with you? Well okay. You're acting like you just cited some in depth scientific study.

You seem legitimately confused about where you stand. You seem to get angry that people dared to specify Hulk was only physically stronger. You seem to be upset people didn't realize this right off the bat. But then when you, right this very moment, are acting like you believe Hulk is just overall more powerful..I'm not even quite sure you know what you believe.

But I'm looking at the power Thor can unleash with his energy based hammer attacks. The amount of destruction he can cause far outweighs what Hulk could do with a single attack.

Hulk is definitely the powerhouse, he's the nuke, option z. Hulk literally can't die and has exponentially multiplying strength.

While Thor is the more polished versatile fighter with prowess and intelligence, he's not the ultimate powerhouse that Hulk is. Thor CAN die just as any Asgardian.

Originally posted by Firefly218
Hulk is definitely the powerhouse, he's the nuke, option z. Hulk literally can't die and has exponentially multiplying strength.

While Thor is the more polished versatile fighter with prowess and intelligence, he's not the ultimate powerhouse that Hulk is. Thor CAN die just as any Asgardian.

There is no basis for saying he can't die. Actually you just illustrated one of the sillier things about the movie. They are talking about this contraption that drops you from a massively high distance and Banner just go "no dudes, it totally wouldn't work because I shot myself with a single bullet and Hulk spit it back out!".

If you decapitate Bruce Banner we have no reason to assume he'd come back from that.

Err, saying "Hulk can't die" isn't logically sound. We know he can both be hurt and bleeds, so it's likely that enough force could kill him. What exactly that amount is, can't say with 100% certainty.

Originally posted by Surtur
No that wasn't me twisting the definition. I literally just gave you the definition and it's not a twist to say MJ falls under the definition of a powerhouse.

Why is this even a discussion? I'm not really sure why people specifying Hulk is merely physically superior to Thor somehow irritates you. I could understand if you'd specifically made a topic about physical strength and then people came in talking about versatility, but that isn't what happened.

If you were saying Hulk is the powerhouse in the physical sense and people are agreeing with you while saying Thor is more versatile..wait, what is the issue with that?

Screen Rant agree's with you? Well okay. You're acting like you just cited some in depth scientific study.

You seem legitimately confused about where you stand. You seem to get angry that people dared to specify Hulk was only physically stronger. You seem to be upset people didn't realize this right off the bat. But then when you, right this very moment, are acting like you believe Hulk is just overall more powerful..I'm not even quite sure you know what you believe.

But I'm looking at the power Thor can unleash with his energy based hammer attacks. The amount of destruction he can cause far outweighs what Hulk could do with a single attack.

This from the guy who acts like powerhouse when it comes to the avengers means most successful. You aren't being specific and I could define strength in the same vague terms such as strength of character and not literally the strongest guy. You are trying to be clever and doing a horrible job of it.

Who agrees with you ? No one apparently. You seemed to think versatility means the teams powerhouse then acted like it could mean most successful. That doesn't prove Thor's power is greater than Hulk's strength. We see how powerful the Hulk is when he casually leapt up to stop the leviathan in avengers one. Collateral damage doesn't prove greater power it just covers a wider surface area.

Plus if I'm an Avenger and I'm in a huge bind..yeah I'm calling Thor before I call Hulk. You see, after a certain amount of time passes I wouldn't have to sing Thor a lullaby in order to avoid being indiscriminately slaughtered by him.

Hulk is more durable and has greater strength than Thor. Thor has greater skill which he needs because he isn't as durable or as strong as the Hulk.

Originally posted by Surtur
Plus if I'm an Avenger and I'm in a huge bind..yeah I'm calling Thor before I call Hulk. You see, after a certain amount of time passes I wouldn't have to sing Thor a lullaby in order to avoid being indiscriminately slaughtered by him.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You are giving a vague answer and ignoring what the term powerhouse means when applied to the avengers. Great success could mean that Tony Stark is the powerhouse but only an idiot would make that claim.

This from the guy who acts like powerhouse when it comes to the avengers means most successful. You aren't being specific and I could define strength in the same vague terms such as strength of character and not literally the strongest guy. You are trying to be clever and doing a horrible job of it.

Who agrees with you ? No one apparently. You seemed to think versatility means the teams powerhouse then acted like it could mean most successful. That doesn't prove Thor's power is greater than Hulk's strength. We see how powerful the Hulk is when he casually leapt up to stop the leviathan in avengers one. Collateral damage doesn't prove greater power it just covers a wider surface area.

We've been over this. The word powerhouse can mean more than one thing. Thus the versatility can indeed make them a powerhouse. It can indeed make them the more useful member.

You say I'm not being specific even after I've told you powerhouse doesn't have a single specific meaning. How is it vague when I say I feel Hulk is physically the strongest Avenger?

You sure do seem to place a lot of value on how many people agree with you. Which I've seen a total of one person in this thread agreeing. But if that is the criteria of which we go by then you should be pretty upset. Since I've seen Khan fights where pretty much nobody but you thought he'd win. How come in those instances the amount of people agreeing with you suddenly isn't important?

Hulk punched out a space dragon yes. Didn't Thor take out several of them simultaneously when he was trying to "plug up" the portal?

You are the one being vague. Before you acted like you just thought Hulk had a physical advantage, now you have switched to "Hulk is just plain more powerful" which is..*exactly* the kind of argument people assumed you were making to begin with.

Originally posted by quanchi112
That has nothing to do with who is the teams powerhouse. You seem to be all over the place and trying to change the goalposts to fit your biased conclusion. Wake up.

This was more in response to someone saying Hulk was their nuke option. I personally would not place a lot of faith in a nuke that might explode in my face.

This also isn't even the first time I've mentioned his inability to fully control himself in regards to this discussion.

Originally posted by Surtur
We've been over this. The word powerhouse can mean more than one thing. Thus the versatility can indeed make them a powerhouse. It can indeed make them the more useful member.

You say I'm not being specific even after I've told you powerhouse doesn't have a single specific meaning. How is it vague when I say I feel Hulk is physically the strongest Avenger?

You sure do seem to place a lot of value on how many people agree with you. Which I've seen a total of one person in this thread agreeing. But if that is the criteria of which we go by then you should be pretty upset. Since I've seen Khan fights where pretty much nobody but you thought he'd win. How come in those instances the amount of people agreeing with you suddenly isn't important?

Hulk punched out a space dragon yes. Didn't Thor take out several of them simultaneously when he was trying to "plug up" the portal?

You are the one being vague. Before you acted like you just thought Hulk had a physical advantage, now you have switched to "Hulk is just plain more powerful" which is..*exactly* the kind of argument people assumed you were making to begin with.

So you concede I am correct. Perfect. I go based off evidence and I said screen rant an impartial site agreed as well. Hey, you don't have to have common sense. I get that you don't. It's ok. You think powerhouse means versatility.

Over a longer period of time since his energy can cover more ground. That isn't proof it is more powerful. It was also a highly concentrated attack over a period of time.

Hulk has a physical advantage and his strength is greater than Thor's power. What I have stated aligns unlike your flip floppy self who claimed powerhouse also means versatility and chance of success.

Originally posted by Surtur
This was more in response to someone saying Hulk was their nuke option. I personally would not place a lot of faith in a nuke that might explode in my face.

This also isn't even the first time I've mentioned his inability to fully control himself in regards to this discussion.

Thor is the more versatile and skilled person by far than the Hulk, but Hulk honestly has no upper limit to his strength where as Thor does. And I honestly can't envision a scenario where he can be killed unless it was like from Thanos with the Infinity Gauntlet or TOAA or something.

Yet Hulk had to job to Iron Man, which was complete bullshit.

Originally posted by playa1258
Yet Hulk had to job to Iron Man, which was complete bullshit.

I guess you enjoyed Avengers: Age of Iron Man.

Originally posted by playa1258
I guess you enjoyed Avengers: Age of Iron Man.

I don't consider that a legit loss for Hulk.

Originally posted by playa1258
I don't consider that a legit loss for Hulk.

Admit Vader's superiority over Khan and Maul and I won't attack Iron Man anymore.