Captain Marvel VS Kurse

Originally posted by Delta1938
Clearly Pete, you care about how you look on this board. Considering how much effort you're putting into TRYING to save face that you're running away from my challenge. You should know that you'd look better either telling the truth that you know I'll destroy you, or just disappear from this thread, than you are digging yourself deeper proving how little you know and making up excuses.

Either put your money where your mouth is and accept my challenge, or shut up. You're clueless about Superman's dynamic powers.

Originally posted by JBL
T.h.e w.r.i.t.e.r.s ALL agree that superman and CM are in the same strength class or very close to not make a difference, therefore it is common sense and very easy to put one and one together that one CANNOT have dynamic strength that would place one above the other or his many peers, equals and those that are stronger. They put them in the same class PERIOD! If superman could by his mental state rise above his peers and equals, then it would make a lie out of every DC and Marvel writer that has him IN THE SAME STRENGTH CLASS as over 20 other characters. Its not the writers...its you. You can never speak for those writers and over-ride them. They know...you want. End of story. The ignore function is next if you keep trying to change what the writers have already established. 😮‍💨

Interview with Joe Casey, the writer of AOS #594, the very comic you say all Superman had was an animalistic mind state not his powers increasing.

RC: Are Superman's powers more related to mental state than solar energy absorption? Joe Casey: I'd say both.

So his powers are related to his mental state, not just his solar energy absorption, under Joe Casey. Oh, and this.

RC: What was your guiding philosophy for working with Superman as a character of The Adventures of Superman? JOE CASEY: I've always seen Superman as this completely over-the-top, fantastic character who has *no* limits whatsoever. He's an icon, an idea, a concept... and I didn't want to spend time adhering to Handbook-style stats when it came to his abilities. * * * * * Pardon? Superman has no limits whatsoever? Yeah, right. And he’s "millions of times stronger than Thor," too. I learned my lesson the last time: Pros can be just like fans … in love with their favorite characters and prone to demonstrating that love by speaking in poetic, larger-than-life terms about the objects of their affection. It’s happy, harmless hyperbole—there’s nothing odious about it, it’s endearing, actually. But it’s not to be taken literally, right? I’m mean, sure, Casey did tell me that, when it comes to Superman, "Let's just say Superman gets one helluva power upgrade when *I'm* writing his adventures," but there’s still gotta be a limit, yeah? I mean, come on … with no limits, Superman would be unbeatable, but that can’t be what Casey meant, can it? I mean, even Casey’s most powerful incarnation of Superman—the one who went mentally AWOL in ADVENTURES 594 and then tore through an army of previously-unbeatable foes "with little resistance"—even that Superman has his limits, right? So, I started thinking up names—names of characters who, according to this guy or that gal or the hermie over there, could certainly give even that Superman a defeat (even if I, personally, didn’t think so). And then I asked Casey point blank: "Who can beat Superman when he goes into that unconscious ‘Probe-busting mode’ as he did in ADVENTURES 594?" And then I threw out the names, and assumed he’d think I was just being silly: RC: Juggernaut? Doomsday? Galactus? No one short of Imperiex himself? * * * * * And then he laid down the law, simple as that. * * * * * JOE CASEY: At that point, Superman is unbeatable. Had he not snapped out of it when Doomsday got fried, he might’ve been able to stop Imperiex right then and there.

So, Joe Casey said that, had he not been shocked out of the mental state he was in, he very well might have beaten Imperiex Prime then and there. Yes, the opinion of one writer, but it proves you wrong. Joe Casey indeed did have Superman's powers increase.

http://www.comicboards.com/joecasey-rc.php

I shouldn't NEED to pull-out stuff like this because the comic speaks for itself to competent debaters, but you're wrong.

Did that came with a pinneaple?

Someone just got raped for ignorant

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
Did that came with a pinneaple?

Someone just got raped for ignorant

JBL must find PSYCH to be such a cocktease. Or backdoor tease?

And just for you Rao!!

YouTube video

Originally posted by Delta1938
Interview with Joe Casey, the writer of AOS #594, the very comic you say all Superman had was an animalistic mind state not his powers increasing.

So his powers are related to his mental state, not just his solar energy absorption, under Joe Casey. Oh, and this.

So, Joe Casey said that, had he not been shocked out of the mental state he was in, he very well might have beaten Imperiex Prime then and there. Yes, the opinion of one writer, but it proves you wrong. Joe Casey indeed did have Superman's powers increase.

http://www.comicboards.com/joecasey-rc.php

I shouldn't NEED to pull-out stuff like this because the comic speaks for itself to competent debaters, but you're wrong.

Makes sense. Kind of like when Pak was asked about Hulk and Pak said no one short of Galactus could have stopped WWH (this was Hulk before even going World Breaker) and he said that was even debatable. So that means World Breaker who is significantly more powerful than WWH would have killed Galactus with a single hit? Let's keep going though. Then someone asked Pak about the Dark Dimension scene. Basically wanted to know how powerful that version of Hulk was. Pak said that this version of Hulk could have destroyed a Galaxy with a punch. Hhhhmmmm...writer interviews are so useful Huh? Let's put WWH in the skyfather/abstract tier based off Pak words shall we.

Originally posted by carver9
Makes sense. Kind of like when Pak was asked about Hulk and Pak said no one short of Galactus could have stopped WWH (this was Hulk before even going World Breaker) and he said that was even debatable. So that means World Breaker who is significantly more powerful than WWH would have killed Galactus with a single hit? Let's keep going though. Then someone asked Pak about the Dark Dimension scene. Basically wanted to know how powerful that version of Hulk was. Pak said that this version of Hulk could have destroyed a Galaxy with a punch. Hhhhmmmm...writer interviews are so useful Huh? Let's put WWH in the skyfather/abstract tier based off Pak words shall we.

Except, you're basically creaming your pants with what Pak said. I stated what Joe Casey said was only his opinion, and it doesn't mean Superman's literally limitless even under Casey. But to prove to those who can't tell from the very comic page shown that yes, Superman's powers do increase based on his mental state. I shouldn't HAVE to, because it's quite clear from the very page already shown, and in the actual Mongul II training scene, and in other examples. But there's certain people who need the writer to tell them.

And based on the interview no one stops no mental blocks superman, so he is above WBH.

The point just went whooosh over your head.

That was to show that writers use the dynamic power of superman.

Geeez carver!

I am going to enjoy destroying that fake fan added on interview.

Joe casey was caught lying and admitted to doing drugs. He also in that interview said that he elevated superman to those levels because in his opinion, he wanted superman to be unbeatable ( no other writer shares his views )And NO ONE can beat superman, not even Galactus.LMAO!! Here's the whole interview, so you can keep dreaming.

http://www.comicboards.com/joecasey-rc.php

Lulz.

Originally posted by JBL
I am going to enjoy destroying that fake fan added on interview.

Originally posted by JBL
Joe casey was caught lying and admitted to doing drugs. He also in that interview said that he elevated superman to those levels because in his opinion, he wanted superman to be unbeatable ( no other writer shares his views )And NO ONE can beat superman, not even Galactus.LMAO!! Here's the whole interview, so you can keep dreaming.

http://www.comicboards.com/joecasey-rc.php

Reading comprehension fail. And you think it's a "fake fan added on interview" when it's from a major comic website? And you post "here's the whole interview so you can keep dreaming" when I.....posted the link?

Cry more.

Your tears of unfathomable sadness are delicious.

Originally posted by Delta1938
Reading comprehension fail. And you think it's a "fake fan added on interview" when it's from a major comic website? And you post "here's the whole interview so you can keep dreaming" when I.....posted the link?

Cry more.

Your tears of unfathomable sadness are delicious.

Originally posted by JBL
That writer who was caught in lies and was on drugs IS the fan. He himself said it is HIS opinion that superman is all that, He elevated superman in that crossover story because he feels that superman (IN HIS EYES) should be this unbeatable force. That is not the view of ANY other writer or his creator and that is not the character. Your laughable attempt to praise a writer who WANTS superman to be able to beat ANYONE is your big play? 😂 .... Epic fail.

Originally posted by Delta1938
Interview with Joe Casey, the writer of AOS #594, the very comic you say all Superman had was an animalistic mind state not his powers increasing.

So his powers are related to his mental state, not just his solar energy absorption, under Joe Casey. Oh, and this.

So, Joe Casey said that, had he not been shocked out of the mental state he was in, he very well might have beaten Imperiex Prime then and there. Yes, the opinion of one writer, but it proves you wrong. Joe Casey indeed did have Superman's powers increase.

http://www.comicboards.com/joecasey-rc.php

I shouldn't NEED to pull-out stuff like this because the comic speaks for itself to competent debaters, but you're wrong.

I never argued he would beat Imperiex, I merely pointed it out to show you that yes, that Casey did indeed write that issue you claimed wasn't dynamic powers as dynamic powers. Not to mention you moronically made a blanket statement and claimed that no writer has written Superman with dynamic powers.

Drugs? Where are you getting this? Is this more of your babbling?

You look even worse when you said I looked like a fool for arguing Doomsday beats Galactus, when I never said anything remotely like that. And anybody relatively competent who read my posts in that thread would agree.

Originally posted by Delta1938
I never argued he would beat Imperiex, I merely pointed it out to show you that yes, that Casey did indeed write that issue you claimed wasn't dynamic powers as dynamic powers. Not to mention you moronically made a blanket statement and claimed that no writer has written Superman with dynamic powers.

Drugs? Where are you getting this? Is this more of your babbling?

You look even worse when you said I looked like a fool for arguing Doomsday beats Galactus, when I never said anything remotely like that. And anybody relatively competent who read my posts in that thread would agree.

Originally posted by JBL
Do you not understand that that drug addict writer gave superman those powers because he wanted superman IN HIS MIND to be unbeatable?? Superman DID NOT have those abilities before that story nor does he have them after, get it? Mr casey played kiss up to superman's fans to sell that OWAW story that did not sell worth a crap. He tried to make superman what he was not and it did not work. Mr casey himself admitted to using nearly all the money made from another story to buy drugs, go research that. Even the person that interviewed him thought he was crazy the way he took superman out of character trying to sell that lame story that did not do well at all. Nobody could beat superman crap got laughed at. Keep putting your faith in a crackhead 😆...Please research on him and find out for yourself before you post his crap again.Even a lame place like CBR knows he's a lying drug head.

So you make a claim that he's a crackhead and say I have to do YOUR research for you? Provide a link or you prove you're lying.

And are you claiming no writer before Joe Casey had Superman have dynamic powers?

Originally posted by JBL
Joe casey was caught lying and admitted to doing drugs. He also in that interview said that he elevated superman to those levels because in his opinion, he wanted superman to be unbeatable ( no other writer shares his views )And NO ONE can beat superman, not even Galactus.LMAO!! Here's the whole interview, so you can keep dreaming.

http://www.comicboards.com/joecasey-rc.php

Seriously?

Why do you keep moving the goal post?

Originally posted by Diesldude
Seriously?

Why do you keep moving the goal post?

Desperation? Masochist?

Originally posted by carver9
Makes sense. Kind of like when Pak was asked about Hulk and Pak said no one short of Galactus could have stopped WWH (this was Hulk before even going World Breaker) and he said that was even debatable. So that means World Breaker who is significantly more powerful than WWH would have killed Galactus with a single hit? Let's keep going though. Then someone asked Pak about the Dark Dimension scene. Basically wanted to know how powerful that version of Hulk was. Pak said that this version of Hulk could have destroyed a Galaxy with a punch. Hhhhmmmm...writer interviews are so useful Huh? Let's put WWH in the skyfather/abstract tier based off Pak words shall we.

So basically he dodged the question. So yeah let's consider that also eh.

Originally posted by Insane Titan
pak also said when asked, NO MORTAL walking the earth could WWH when asked if the likes of Mangog, Thanos or Odin could stop Hulk.

So basically he dodged the question. So yeah let's consider that also eh.

Carter also completely misinerpreted the reason I brought the interview up. But that's just standard for kitty cat.

Originally posted by burrrrrr
Well, I can see where you're coming from(the Odin comparison is a good point). Do you agree with McAbe that "Superman is a cosmic anomaly, he is the center of creation, everything comes from Superman. He has a special place in creation, like Batman and Wonder Woman, they are nexus beings from a nexus planet (earth)"?