Originally posted by h1a8
The bullet feat proves it. Seeing a bullet through the air in real time while being able to react to it proves it.
No it doesn't, this has already been explained to you, by me and before you claim that I didn't. here is DDM mentioning my explanation.
Originally posted by dadudemon
Or what Silent Master said: predicting the trajectory of the bullet and catching it based off of his ability to see where someone is shooting.
Originally posted by Silent Master
No it doesn't, this has already been explained to you, by me and before you claim that I didn't. here is DDM mentioning my explanation.
The fact that Ozy saw the bullet proves it. Doesn't matter if he calculated the trajectory midair of the bullet.
The fact that Ozy was able to react to the bullet proves it.
Here's some math
It takes roughly 0.01 second for the bullet to react Ozy. Ozy has to react before this. Let's say he reacted when the bullet was halfway. That would mean he has at least 0.005 second reaction times. Also, Ozy has to move his hand several feet within 0.005 of a second. This equates to many times faster than Cap can move his hand.
Being able to react in 0.005 second while being able to perceive something moving that quickly automatically proves that Ozy will see an attack from Cap (human level speed) at a very slow motion.
Originally posted by Emmy Evangeline
Ozzy is scum all his special feauts where done because he planned them out. He can oly flat bench 150 pounds and do barbell curls at 55 pounds. The Comedian easily could of killed him and threw his body out the window. But he was acting dead so they all could get ready for the real bad guy. Mrs. Manhattan. Her menopause and heat flashes are so bad we'll die.
haermm
And The Comedian changed his name after he got thrown out of the window.
He changed it to "Chuck." haermm
Originally posted by h1a8
Here's some mathIt takes roughly 0.01 second for the bullet to react Ozy. Ozy has to react before this. Let's say he reacted when the bullet was halfway. That would mean he has at least 0.005 second reaction times. Also, Ozy has to move his hand several feet within 0.005 of a second. This equates to many times faster than Cap can move his hand.
Being able to react in 0.005 second while being able to perceive something moving that quickly automatically proves that Ozy will see an attack from Cap (human level speed) at a very slow motion.
In this case, Ozy reacted to the bullet 10 seconds before the gun was fired because he knew the person would fire the gun, got into position, and was able to react to the bullet.
He's super smart, not Quicksilver. That's what makes Ozy great.
Do you think Ozy makes those sounds because he's just imitating martial artists? Or is he a true martial artist who predicts his opponents moves while making the oooo sounds?
Originally posted by Silent Master
Incorrect and the reason has already been mentioned multiple times by multiple different posters including me and DDM.
As far as you, the reason doesn't exist as I explained.
We see Ozy move after the fire (not before). The speed of sound is about 1125m/s. The speed of the bullet is 1000ft/s
Originally posted by h1a8
Here's some mathIt takes roughly 0.01 second for the bullet to reach Ozy. Ozy has to react before this. Let's say he reacted when the bullet was halfway. That would mean he has at least 0.005 second reaction times. Also, Ozy has to move his hand several feet within 0.005 of a second. This equates to many times faster than Cap can move his hand.
Being able to react in 0.005 second while being able to perceive something moving that quickly automatically proves that Ozy will see an attack from Cap (human level speed) at a very slow motion.
Originally posted by dadudemon
In this case, Ozy reacted to the bullet 10 seconds before the gun was fired because he knew the person would fire the gun, got into position, and was able to react to the bullet.He's super smart, not Quicksilver. That's what makes Ozy great.
Do you think Ozy makes those sounds because he's just imitating martial artists? Or is he a true martial artist who predicts his opponents moves while making the oooo sounds?
We clearly see Ozy move after the gun was fired. We see clearly the writer's intent. At this point you are making stuff up to disprove the feat.
People that make stuff up to disprove feats are
1. Extremely Bias towards the other character
2. Trolling the thread.
Therefore it is not worth my time debating with you.
Originally posted by Darth Thor
Bringing Writers intent to back your interpretation of a scene but without actual statements from the writers, is a just a concession that your argument is weak.
Everyone who ever saw the scene thought exactly the same (Ozy caught a phucking bullet).
Originally posted by h1a8
We clearly see Ozy move after the gun was fired. We see clearly the writer's intent. At this point you are making stuff up to disprove the feat.People that make stuff up to disprove feats are
1. Extremely Bias towards the other character
2. Trolling the thread.Therefore it is not worth my time debating with you.
You're wrong. Go watch the seen again. While Ozy doesn't make it very audible, if you turn up the volume, you can hear him making the monkey voice sound a few seconds before the gun is fired. He starts moving before the gun is fired while quietly making the monkey sound.
If you have the director's cut, it is at 2:34:14 on. Turn up the volume. Listen for the 'oooo' sound as he preps to catch the bullet.
PYBOTSTGAMSH
Originally posted by h1a8
I disagree.
Actually writer's intent here is common sense. Well beyond a reasonable doubt. It's brought up to show trolling attempts.Everyone who ever saw the scene thought exactly the same (Ozy caught a phucking bullet).
It doesnt matter what people think they saw. The director goes through the details.
It may LOOK like Thanos can swing his sword super fast. That might be what EVERYONE who saw the scene in Endgame thought. But when you examine scenes in slow motion then we see what the Director was actually portraying. And in that case it was that sword was spinning itself.
So no, poor argumentation. You need to provide evidence and not hide behind “authors intent” especially without examining the scene as closely as the director did and without directors commentary.
Originally posted by KingD19
No. When I saw the scene I thought, "Gee Silk Spectre sure took a long time to aim and talk to him before shooting. A guy like him would definitely be able to guess where that bullet would go and catch it in his armored glove".
But the problem is that didn't happen. He moved after the shot.
Even if Ozy can guess where the bullet will go then he still has to know when to move his hand. He can't just sit there with his hand blocking his face.
Originally posted by Darth Thor
It doesnt matter what people think they saw. The director goes through the details.It may LOOK like Thanos can swing his sword super fast. That might be what EVERYONE who saw the scene in Endgame thought. But when you examine scenes in slow motion then we see what the Director was actually portraying. And in that case it was that sword was spinning itself.
So no, poor argumentation. You need to provide evidence and not hide behind “authors intent” especially without examining the scene as closely as the director did and without directors commentary.
So it wasn't writer's intent that Ozy caught the bullet?
Something that is not shown or alluded to in a film doesn't exist.
I don't understand your motivation. Are you trying to discredit the feat?
Originally posted by dadudemon
You're wrong. Go watch the seen again. While Ozy doesn't make it very audible, if you turn up the volume, you can hear him making the monkey voice sound a few seconds before the gun is fired. He starts moving before the gun is fired while quietly making the monkey sound.If you have the director's cut, it is at 2:34:14 on. Turn up the volume. Listen for the 'oooo' sound as he preps to catch the bullet.
PYBOTSTGAMSH
Uhmm this is a troll post. Fantasy story bro.
Originally posted by h1a8
So it wasn't writer's intent that Ozy caught the bullet?
Something that is not shown or alluded to in a film doesn't exist.I don't understand your motivation. Are you trying to discredit the feat?
Its for you to prove that Ozy caught the bullet via bullet timing speed. And not for you to hide behind WRITERS INTENT, without either giving us Directors commentary, or showing us what details weve missed in the scene but the director would have clearly been aware of.
Dont worry about my motivations. I have no bias here one way or the other. I am simply addressing your poor argumentation style which you use in every thread to try and avoid an actual evidence based argument.
Originally posted by h1a8
The reason why Ozy did not see the bullet? You were the only one that claimed this. Others were saying that he calculated the trajectory mid flight the same way someone hits a baseball.As far as you, the reason doesn't exist as I explained.
We see Ozy move after the fire (not before). The speed of sound is about 1125m/s. The speed of the bullet is 1000ft/s
You are the only one claiming he actually saw the bullet, everyone else is saying he calculated the trajectory based on where the gun was pointed.
Your opinion on why the reason doesn't exist doesn't rise to the level of proof as it's only your opinion. you provided no actual evidence.
Originally posted by Silent Master
You are the only one claiming he actually saw the bullet, everyone else is saying he calculated the trajectory based on where the gun was pointed.Your opinion on why the reason doesn't exist doesn't rise to the level of proof as it's only your opinion. you provided no actual evidence.
I proved why he had to see the bullet. You continue to troll and ignore the evidence I gave without addressing it.
Originally posted by dadudemon
And yet, I'm the only one supplying direct evidence that is veritable. I gave you a time stamp.Watch it.
PYBOTSTGAMSH
A time stamp to the director's cut?
Not sure that would count as canon.
But for the sake of curiosity, post the scene as I don't have the director's cut.
Originally posted by Darth Thor
Its for you to prove that Ozy caught the bullet via bullet timing speed. And not for you to hide behind WRITERS INTENT, without either giving us Directors commentary, or showing us what details weve missed in the scene but the director would have clearly been aware of.Dont worry about my motivations. I have no bias here one way or the other. I am simply addressing your poor argumentation style which you use in every thread to try and avoid an actual evidence based argument.
But yet others have glaring holes in their logic and you don't nitpick their argument. Therefore you are not qualified to nitpick anyone's argument. You disqualified yourself due to bias.
With that said, I clearly stated that Ozy moved after the gun shot.
Writer's intent is pretty clear and is something that shouldn't be argued. If someone is arguing against clear writer's intent then there is no longer a need to debate with them as they are trolling. This isn't rocket science.