THOR NO Hammer vs HULKS (read OP)

ss has insta-drained hulk too in the past. if thor unleashed the type of lightning strike he did to open the 10th realm, then yeah, hulk is f'd but of course that isn't thor's style. no one is saying (except maybe carver) that thor w/hammer doesn't win, but without is simply in hulk's wheelhouse. any hulk's really....

Are we all still pretending that's not Ilagrok?

Originally posted by krisblaze
Using 1 lightningbolt is not using all of his powers.

When the alleged "warrior madness" Thor was fighting Maestro he hit him with a lightning bolt once. It brought Hulk to his knees and then Thor flew over to him. Brilliant. Not only did Hulk's idiot-writers get the WM thing wrong, but they more or less claimed that Thor's lightning was purely electrical, when it's also magical 😐 AND downplayed the power.

Gravage or Savage was knocked out by 1 lightningbolt to the head.

And these have been ordinary attacks, not the real hell he can summon.

During Kang's conquest of Earth his drain practically killed a guy that had been stomping the Avengers. It took him out in like 2 seconds and the effects of the drain was instanteneous 😐

The character that this happened to may not have had the amount of power that the Hulk taps from. Plus it may have been written by another writer. Like I said, i am not trying to say that Thor wouldn't be able to pull off exotics sometimes against the Hulk, but he shouldn't be able to pull them off all of the time. There are factors to consider on both sides. One being a moving target, and having the power to literally stay in Thor's face for the entire fight. The Hulk can tunnel underground very fast as seen during the Onslaught arc, and has an uncanny ability of coming out precisely where he wants to as if he can see through the feet of earth covering him. It's not as simple as point click, and it's done. That was also not Maestro if was Merged Hulk pretending to be Maestro. Plus it was a strong attack, so dropping to his knees would have happened to a whole lot of character, if not right out flash frying them to ash.

My point here is that Thor had the hammer in that book, and he doesn't have it here. If the Merged Hulk could do so well to the point of stalemate against Thor with the hammer, how well would he do against Thor if Thor did not have a hammer, and it was purely a slugfest? This is all that I'm saying.

Energy drain doesn't have to be aimed. And Thor doesn't do it because it would kill Banner.

Given hammerless Thor's track-record against Savage and Gravage, and his hammerless track-record against anyone, he would beat Professor Hulk.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
Are we all still pretending that's not Ilagrok?

Who's pretending uhuh

I'm back ahah

Originally posted by krisblaze
Thor couldn't go Warrior Madness.

And the 'Warrior Madness' apparently passed 10 seconds after the fight.

Amazing insight, I expect nothing less.

He can't?

This scene CLEARLY states he went Warrior Madness?

http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd124/HulkFights/Vs%20Thor/Fight%2012/10.jpg

Is denial your best friend?

Originally posted by leonidas
ss has insta-drained hulk too in the past. if thor unleashed the type of lightning strike he did to open the 10th realm, then yeah, hulk is f'd but of course that isn't thor's style. no one is saying (except maybe carver) that thor w/hammer doesn't win, but without is simply in hulk's wheelhouse. any hulk's really....

Never said Thor couldn't pull some wins against Savage Hulk with his hammer. Never said draining wouldn't work.

which is why i said maybe...... 👆

Originally posted by krisblaze
Who's pretending uhuh

I'm back ahah

Originally posted by krisblaze
No BFR, but that doesn't mean they can't use teleportation IN the battlefield.

Since Doomsday's attacks are very limited can't they just have one guy running interference with porting and shit while the other two nuke him down?

Given time I'm sure that either of these 3 could take down people above Doomsday's paygrade.

Are you stalking me? :3

Originally posted by carver9
He can't?

This scene CLEARLY states he went Warrior Madness?

http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd124/HulkFights/Vs%20Thor/Fight%2012/10.jpg

Is denial your best friend?

No, but poor research is the friend of all Hulk fans and writers alike.

Thor tried to invoke the WM for days before Onslaught, but it wasn't possible. It hasn't been an option since the first time, when he fought Him.

And Warrior Madness doesn't pass. It's a madness.

Thor destroyed a planet in rage the first time and last time he entered it. He doesn't snap out of it because the Hulk punches him out of the arena.

And for ****s sake, that fight even had Thor gritting his teeth because of the cold.

Originally posted by krisblaze
Are you stalking me? :3

No, but poor research is the friend of all Hulk fans and writers alike.

Thor tried to invoke the WM for days before Onslaught, but it wasn't possible. It hasn't been an option since the first time, when he fought Him.

And Warrior Madness doesn't pass. It's a madness.

Thor destroyed a planet in rage the first time and last time he entered it. He doesn't snap out of it because the Hulk punches him out of the arena.

And for ****s sake, that fight even had Thor gritting his teeth because of the cold.

So the comic lied when it said Thor was in a Warrior Madness state? Makes sense.

There isn't a single thing you can say or do that would override what was said in the comic. Nothing. Wait, it said Hulk was pissed as well, I guess it lied about that also. A calm Hulk challenged and overpowered Thor.

Originally posted by carver9
So the comic lied when it said Thor was in a Warrior Madness state? Makes sense.

There isn't a single thing you can say or do that would override what was said in the comic. Nothing. Wait, it said Hulk was pissed as well, I guess it lied about that also. A calm Hulk challenged and overpowered Thor.

I don't need to say anything.

It's been said in other comics, by Thor writers.

Those contradict the one Hulk comic.

Originally posted by Stoic
Not at all. An enraged Thor would beat Hercules, and Herc is still pretty powerful.

An enraged Hercules would beat thor. whats your point?

Originally posted by krisblaze
I don't need to say anything.

It's been said in other comics, by Thor writers.

Those contradict the one Hulk comic.

Okay so we agree to disagree on Thor stopping at the Merged Hulk without Mjolnir. Where does he stop in your opinion?

Originally posted by krisblaze
Energy drain doesn't have to be aimed. And Thor doesn't do it because it would [b]kill Banner.

Given hammerless Thor's track-record against Savage and Gravage, and his hammerless track-record against anyone, he would beat Professor Hulk.

Who's pretending uhuh

I'm back ahah [/B]

Originally posted by Stoic
Okay so we agree to disagree on Thor stopping at the Merged Hulk without Mjolnir. Where does he stop in your opinion?

I think he stops at 3.

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
Thor is going to fight different incarnations of the Hulk with out Mjolnir.

He is fighting them ONE BY ONE (Not in group)

He rest and heals between rounds, How far can He make it?

1.- Grey Hulk (Mr Fixit)

2.- Professor Hulk

3.- Savage Hulk (Highly enraged)

4.- Mindless Hulk (Highly enraged)

5.- Bannerless Hulk

6.- Green Scar (No World Breaker Mode)

Sops at 2. Might be able to pass it, but not for a majority.

Originally posted by krisblaze
I don't need to say anything.

It's been said in other comics, by Thor writers.

Those contradict the one Hulk comic.

But in that comic he was warrior madness.

Originally posted by carver9
But in that comic he was warrior madness.

Okay.

Some other warrior madness then, that ends quickly and is invoked purely by fighting.

Originally posted by krisblaze
Okay.

Some other warrior madness then, that ends quickly and is invoked purely by fighting.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Many forget that Thor was a lesser version of his former self during that period in his history. That itself makes that fight even more inconclusive.