Originally posted by Stoic
[B]Is there a scene that shows Thor flying faster than light without his hammer?
Yes 😆
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_medium/12/124797/3520848-flywithoutmjolnirinspace.jpg
But i understand you said EVEN with hammer he couldnt use his powers against Hulk, because Hulk was too fast for him, and not because PIS/he being stupid, etc.
Im not talking about him without hammer, and in this thread he is forbidden to use any power.
Great showing for Hulk (by the way Leo, I am about to post some scans about what I told you about Hulk being amped). Here we have both Thing and Thor together being unable to open a heavily sealed door. Hulk shows up and open it by himself.
Originally posted by carver9
Great showing for Hulk (by the way Leo, I am about to post some scans about what I told you about Hulk being amped). Here we have both Thing and Thor together being unable to open a heavily sealed door. Hulk shows up and open it by himself.
Originally posted by carver9thats not even 616
Great showing for Hulk (by the way Leo, I am about to post some scans about what I told you about Hulk being amped). Here we have both Thing and Thor together being unable to open a heavily sealed door. Hulk shows up and open it by himself.
Re: THOR NO Hammer vs HULKS (read OP)
Originally posted by Rao Kal ElAn interesting thing to note here is that in the infamous Thor 385 issue, is that Hulk was in a highly enraged Mindless state during the time. As well as Hulk never actually put Thor down and Thor was never close to going out as he tried to throw Mjolnir away to battle h2h again.
Thor is going to fight different incarnations of the Hulk with out Mjolnir.He is fighting them ONE BY ONE (Not in group)
He rest and heals between rounds, How far can He make it?
1.- Grey Hulk (Mr Fixit)
2.- Professor Hulk
3.- Savage Hulk (Highly enraged)
4.- Mindless Hulk (Highly enraged)
5.- Bannerless Hulk
6.- Green Scar (No World Breaker Mode)
Also, Hulk hit him on panel 21 times in that comic (counting a throw and some tackles).
So... not as bad as it seems in all honesty.
Originally posted by carver9
Great showing for Hulk (by the way Leo, I am about to post some scans about what I told you about Hulk being amped). Here we have both Thing and Thor together being unable to open a heavily sealed door. Hulk shows up and open it by himself.
this is not worth the electrons required to type this response, though i get why you tried hiding this...this.... i have no words, but i get why you would have tried hiding this 'proof' in the entirely wrong thread...
sigh..... un-frickin-believable. pr would be proud of you for achieving a new high end low.
Originally posted by krisblaze
LTBB was written by a guy who did -one- comic, admitted he just wrote it because he felt that Hulk should get a win AND was a dream.There's also fatally injured Tho
r killing amped Thing and knocking out amped Hulk 🙂
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Originally posted by eaebiakuya
Yes 😆http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_medium/12/124797/3520848-flywithoutmjolnirinspace.jpg
But i understand you said EVEN with hammer he couldnt use his powers against Hulk, because Hulk was too fast for him, and not because PIS/he being stupid, etc.
Im not talking about him without hammer, and in this thread he is forbidden to use any power.
Originally posted by leonidas
^ what issue of thor is that, anyone know....?
Originally posted by carver9
Remember, Professor Hulk couldn't amp. The madder he gets, the closer he comes to reverting back go banner.
This was only true for a very limited period of time, about 15-20 issues IIRC - a temporary mental fail-safe that did not exist prior to his experiences in Future Imperfect. For the vast bulk of his run (both before and after the "savage Banner" stuff), the merged Hulk had zero problem getting angrier and stronger. Indeed, PAD went to great lengths to highlight that he could tap the madder/stronger dynamic very well unlike previous intelligent Hulks.
The merged Hulk was prone to flying off the handle - he had savage Hulk prominently in his DNA remember.
Cheers.
Originally posted by LGU
This was only true for a very limited period of time, about 15-20 issues IIRC - a temporary mental fail-safe that did not exist prior to his experiences in Future Imperfect. For the vast bulk of his run (both before and after the "savage Banner" stuff), the merged Hulk had [B]zero problem getting angrier and stronger. Indeed, PAD went to great lengths to highlight that he could tap the madder/stronger dynamic very well unlike previous intelligent Hulks.The merged Hulk was prone to flying off the handle - he had savage Hulk prominently in his DNA remember.
Cheers. [/B]
I thought in future Imperfect Merged Hulk was amped?
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Why are people saying he stops at 2? We've already seen Thor and Professor Hulk fight. Fighting Thor pushed him to the brink, he almost revered to Banner.He has a higher base strength then Savage (Elite class 100 when calm) so he can hang but to actually take on Thor evenly or beat him would make him too angry.
And the Hulk he fought in the arctic wasn't Professor Hulk (Technically he was Professor Hulk*) but an enraged/mindless Merged Hulk in the sense that he didn't have a strength/anger cap. They fought for hours, Hulk was super pissed and Samson even said he'd never seen Hulk that angry. I don't remember why he didn't revert to Banner anymore, had to do with him becoming Maestro or whatever (Which was I believe and act to an extent), IIRC it was the shrapnel in the brain.
Anyways, Thor stops at 3 unless he uses his weather powers. Beating Savage Hulk at super pissed levels would require a really good day for Thor or real hand to hand skills.
*Professor Hulk and Merged Hulk are the same incarnation, but people refer to Professor Hulk as weaker because he had the Banner limitation and could not amp infinitely like the Merged or Savage incarnation.
That isn't true at all. The "Professor" Hulk is just the name Paul Jenkins gave to the incarnation when he ret-conned the existence of the merged Hulk - the "Professor" moniker in no way implies the temporarily limited version.
As I just pointed out above, the "savage Banner" weakness was entirely temporary. Both before and after, the merged Hulk had absolutely no problem tapping the madder/stronger dynamic.
The merged Hulk's combat record is really very good, he gets underrated a lot - the only scene that seems to stick in people's minds is the end of the Onslaught saga for some reason.
He stalemated Thor and Abomination when he had the savage Banner weakness, suggesting his base strength is in the same ballpark as the elite class 100. He destroyed Blonsky in 3 panels flat when he was at his un-restricted levels. Wrecked the Glob easily (who was flat-out stated to be stronger than the savage Hulk) whilst explicitly noting that he himself was stronger than he ever used to be. Looked comprehensively stronger than Norvell, Thor's exact physical peer etc etc.
PAD went out of his way numerous times to state explicitly that the merged Hulk was stronger than the savage Hulk ever used to be, and frankly his combat record backs that up. He might not be able to hit the same peak highs as the savage Hulk, but on average he is easily as strong as him IMHO.
Thor might be able to win in hand to hand if his skill edge was played up, but I wouldn't bet on it. The merged Hulk is solidly stronger than Thor-level guys and was consistently portrayed as such.
Cheers.
Originally posted by HulkIsHulk
That amped Thing and Hulk got hurt by street levellers who they had no selled before. Some amped. And Thor was the one who ended up Kod there, not Hulk, how much ever you say it to be or want it to be, it won't be true.http://31.media.tumblr.com/0aae41844eaddbbe740a73fa7fb01eba/tumblr_muo7eeY6B91rjt82ro1_400.gif
Originally posted by LGU
That isn't true at all. The "Professor" Hulk is just the name Paul Jenkins gave to the incarnation when he ret-conned the existence of the merged Hulk - the "Professor" moniker in no way implies the temporarily limited version.As I just pointed out above, the "savage Banner" weakness was entirely temporary. Both before and after, the merged Hulk had absolutely no problem tapping the madder/stronger dynamic.
The merged Hulk's combat record is really very good, he gets underrated a lot - the only scene that seems to stick in people's minds is the end of the Onslaught saga for some reason.
He stalemated Thor and Abomination when he had the savage Banner weakness, suggesting his base strength is in the same ballpark as the elite class 100. He destroyed Blonsky in 3 panels flat when he was at his un-restricted levels. Wrecked the Glob easily (who was flat-out stated to be stronger than the savage Hulk) whilst explicitly noting that he himself was stronger than he ever used to be. Looked comprehensively stronger than Norvell, Thor's exact physical peer etc etc.
PAD went out of his way numerous times to state explicitly that the merged Hulk was stronger than the savage Hulk ever used to be, and frankly his combat record backs that up. He might not be able to hit the same peak highs as the savage Hulk, but on average he is easily as strong as him IMHO.
Thor might be able to win in hand to hand if his skill edge was played up, but I wouldn't bet on it. The merged Hulk is solidly stronger than Thor-level guys and was consistently portrayed as such.
Cheers.
nice. 👆
Originally posted by LGU
That isn't true at all. The "Professor" Hulk is just the name Paul Jenkins gave to the incarnation when he ret-conned the existence of the merged Hulk - the "Professor" moniker in no way implies the temporarily limited version.As I just pointed out above, the "savage Banner" weakness was entirely temporary. Both before and after, the merged Hulk had absolutely no problem tapping the madder/stronger dynamic.
The merged Hulk's combat record is really very good, he gets underrated a lot - the only scene that seems to stick in people's minds is the end of the Onslaught saga for some reason.
He stalemated Thor and Abomination when he had the savage Banner weakness, suggesting his base strength is in the same ballpark as the elite class 100. He destroyed Blonsky in 3 panels flat when he was at his un-restricted levels. Wrecked the Glob easily (who was flat-out stated to be stronger than the savage Hulk) whilst explicitly noting that he himself was stronger than he ever used to be. Looked comprehensively stronger than Norvell, Thor's exact physical peer etc etc.
PAD went out of his way numerous times to state explicitly that the merged Hulk was stronger than the savage Hulk ever used to be, and frankly his combat record backs that up. He might not be able to hit the same peak highs as the savage Hulk, but on average he is easily as strong as him IMHO.
Thor might be able to win in hand to hand if his skill edge was played up, but I wouldn't bet on it. The merged Hulk is solidly stronger than Thor-level guys and was consistently portrayed as such.
Cheers.
Good post. With that said, Merge Hulk stomps. Question, wasn't that Savage Hulk that was fighting Onslaught?
