Originally posted by SamZED
I'm not going to make any excuses for Hamas. As for the example itself, a nice gesture I guess, like cutting someone's legs off then buying him stilts.👆
Hammas does not care if they die, they only care if they kill Israelis.
Hence why they will not stop attacking Israel.
If Israel gives them bunch of land for farming and then Hammas burns it all, fck them.
Originally posted by Time ImmemorialFck Hamas. The people are still being oppressed, ran out of their houses and murdered by the thousands by Israel.
Hammas does not care if they die, they only care if they kill Israelis.Hence why they will not stop attacking Israel.
If Israel gives them bunch of land for farming and then Hammas burns it all, fck them.
Originally posted by Time ImmemorialIsrael bombs hospitals and houses regardless, to set an example, then say that a Hamas member was hiding under a bench. And it is the case sometimes, but generally they simply don't give a sh!t, that's how it goes.
Because Hammas won't stop launching rockets and now Hammas is using human shields, churches and hospitals for rocket positions and caches to deter Israel counter attacks.
Originally posted by SamZED
Israel bombs hospitals and houses regardless, to set an example, then say that a Hamas member was hiding under a bench. And it is the case sometimes, but generally they simply don't give a sh!t, that's how it goes.
There are no rules in war. Pretty sure Israel is tired of being attacked and has pulled the "i don't give a shit" card.
Originally posted by Time ImmemorialThey had it out the whole time. Point is, it is ok to criticize Hamas and call them on the bs they pull, but try criticizing Israel for a much more horrific bs they pull and you get this:
There are no rules in war. Pretty sure Israel is tired of being attacked and has pulled the "i don't give a shit" card.
Originally posted by SamZED
They had it out the whole time. Point is, it is ok to criticize Hamas and call them on the bs they pull, but try criticizing Israel for a much more horrific bs they pull and you get this:
http://youtu.be/zmCKZYKsiGM
Israel were willing to treatise with Palestinians/Hamas (same shit, different name -- most Palestinians are Hamas supporters) numerous times, even before Hamas was even established.
Hamas turned it all down, even using the innocent Palestinians as their scapegoat.
I say Palestinians should revolt against Hamas themselves if they want to make things happen (won't happen, they love these guys).
Originally posted by SamZED
They had it out the whole time. Point is, it is ok to criticize Hamas and call them on the bs they pull, but try criticizing Israel for a much more horrific bs they pull and you get this:
http://youtu.be/zmCKZYKsiGM
He's a comedian, thats his job.
I'll ask you this, what is Israel supposed to do if Hammas does not stop launching rockets and breaks all the cease fires?
Originally posted by Time Immemorial
He's a comedian, thats his job.I'll ask you this, what is Israel supposed to do if Hammas does not stop launching rockets and breaks all the cease fires?
Stop their inhumane treatment and illegal containment of Gaza. And treat Palestine with respect, and its people as a people that deserve their own nation and place on the global stage.
Really, it's just what they should be doing either way.
Originally posted by Bardock42
Stop their inhumane treatment and illegal containment of Gaza. And treat Palestine with respect, and its people as a people that deserve their own nation and place on the global stage.Really, it's just what they should be doing either way.
Hammas #1 objective is to kill all Israelis. Containment seems like a good idea.
As mentioned earlier though, if Israel gives Gaza tons of land and Gaza destroys it, what should Israel do, give them more?
Originally posted by Bardock42
Well, the leader of Hamas actually said that he would feel that it would be a Palestinian Nations decision as to the legitimacy of Israel. At any rate, they are performing mass murder on the palestinians, I don't see how it can be justified.
Yes and exactly who gave the Palestinian Nations the judging power to determine the legitimacy of Israel?
Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Yes and exactly who gave the Palestinian Nations the judging power to determine the legitimacy of Israel?
That's really an issue that should be addressed when we get to it. The more pressing issue is that Israel and the US in fact currently judge that Palestine is illegitimate, and it has actual real consequences for them. Palestine should be acknowledged as a nation, and have a seat in the United Nations. That way they can negotiate eye to eye with their occupiers.
Originally posted by Bardock42
That's really an issue that should be addressed when we get to it. The more pressing issue is that Israel and the US in fact currently judge that Palestine is illegitimate, and it has actual real consequences for them. Palestine should be acknowledged as a nation, and have a seat in the United Nations. That way they can negotiate eye to eye with their occupiers.
I agree with that.