Super Saiyan Broly VS Thor

Wow.. how did you manage to type that with both fingers wedge into your ears? That's some impressive elbowmanship.

Take note that this post don't give a shit if you think Broly will win, or if you think you can defeat Thor given the chance. No, what this post is curious about is to why so many that enter as pro-DB always jump to these top 4 instances while ignoring the dozens of showings far below, but can then go on to say the opposite for pretty much every other fiction? Especially when said fiction suffers form different writers and crossover characters.

We can get the the Vs talk later. I'm more curious about this right now. Why is this fraction on the high end solid evidence, while another can show the same amount/more and its fine to push it aside and call them all useless high end feats?

Originally posted by BloodRain
Wow.. how did you manage to type that with both fingers wedge into your ears? That's some impressive elbowmanship.

Take note that this post don't give a shit if you think Broly will win, or if you think you can defeat Thor given the chance. No, what this post is curious about is to why so many that enter as pro-DB always jump to these top 4 instances while ignoring the dozens of showings far below, but can then go on to say the opposite for pretty much every other fiction? Especially when said fiction suffers form different writers and crossover characters.

We can get the the Vs talk later. I'm more curious about this right now. Why is this fraction on the high end solid evidence, while another can show the same amount/more and its fine to push it aside and call them all useless high end feats?

I asked you a simple question. Prove that Thor can withstand planet busting power. It's really simple. Then, since you are trying to throw out that it takes planet busting to kill a DBZ character, provide a scan (let's use your debating style, more than one since it might be an outlier) of Thor dishing out planet busting attacks. I'll be waiting.

Lol I just said I don't give a shit about the Thor section right now, pay attention to what this is about. Also don't dodge a question then demand your followed one be answered.

Now, kindly answer what has now been thrice asked of you.

Originally posted by BloodRain
Lol I just said I don't give a shit about the Thor section right now, pay attention to what this is about. Also don't dodge a question then demand your followed one be answered.

Now, kindly answer what has now been thrice asked of you.

Who said I'm focusing on Goku high ends though (i think this is the question you are asking me). You are the one that presumes every blast a DBZ character dishes out is suppose to blow up a planet. Comics doesn't work like that. The most powerful of characters has been killed or hurt by attacks that didn't destroy Earth let alone other planets they were fighting on.

Here with have Thanos damaged by a blast that didn't even destroy the landscape they are on...

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/19827125/vs8.jpg.html

I guess that means Nappa can kill him (and by the way, that is Nova Prime who doesn't have a single ft of destroying a planet, let alone a continent, etc...).

Collateral damage for the win.

1. The gravimetric blast is shot upward, so it's never shown hitting anything other than Thanos' face and presumably shooting off into space.

2. Gravimetric energy hasn't really been shown to explode like most others. It's a lot like Cyclops' optic blasts.

3. Rider with the full Nova Force is considered a planetary threat if he were to go rogue.

Originally posted by Kal-El Summers
1. The gravimetric blast is shot upward, so it's never shown hitting anything other than Thanos' face and presumably shooting off into space.

2. Gravimetric energy hasn't really been shown to explode like most others. It's a lot like Cyclops' optic blasts.

3. Rider with the full Nova Force is considered a planetary threat if he were to go rogue.

It hit Thanos though. So it hit something physical. I can also show Tyrant blasting Thanos and not causing a crater in the ground.

... I never said it didn't hit Thanos. I was explaining Rider's power-set as Nova Prime since you didn't really seem to know anything about it.

Originally posted by Kal-El Summers
... I never said it didn't hit Thanos. I was explaining Rider's power-set as Nova Prime since you didn't really seem to know anything about it.

Who said anything about me not knowing about it and where in that scan was it said to be a gravimetric blast?

Gravimetric energy is his main weapon. Always has been. Outside of using a collated force beam against fake-Ms. Marvel back when the Thunderbolts attacked him, it's all he's used when opening stargates or using any type of energy attack.

Originally posted by Kal-El Summers
Gravimetric energy is his main weapon. Always has been. Outside of using a collated force beam against fake-Ms. Marvel back when the Thunderbolts attacked him, it's all he's used when opening stargates or using any type of energy attack.

So is that why he said that he was going to hit Hulk with an attack that was going to level a continent?

When did he say that?

In fall of the Hulk's when the Avengers and Nova got set up by the Hulks. Then we have a showing during War of Kings as well and during his fist appearance where his blasts was blowing up things. Trying to post scans but photobucket is acting dumb.

Originally posted by carver9
You were lowballing my friend. Not mad at you for doing it but you probably need to look at what the other character has been through before doing it.

Not at all. You demanded us to stick to "average showings" for comics, and we apply the same set of logic to all of fiction, as such, if we stick to averages for comics, surely we'll do the same for DBZ, which we only get small mountain level DBZ (city block if I wanted to be nitpicky)

Then there's the infamous 40 ton shit (if I wanted to lowball then I could use that and act like it invalidates every other strength feat in DBZ, that and the fact that ki blasts only cause small craters and shit)

Originally posted by StealthRanger
Not at all. You demanded us to stick to "average showings" for comics, and we apply the same set of logic to all of fiction, as such, if we stick to averages for comics, surely we'll do the same for DBZ, which we only get small mountain level DBZ (city block if I wanted to be nitpicky)

Then there's the infamous 40 ton shit (if I wanted to lowball then I could use that and act like it invalidates every other strength feat in DBZ, that and the fact that ki blasts only cause small craters and shit)

Mountain busting. I'm pretty sure you know the difference between a mountain busting blast vs a powerful person shooting a powerful blast and ignoring the fact that collateral damage isn't the judge of power. Example... the blast that killed Vegeta (that Frieza shot) is more powerful than Junior Nuke blast that Goku tanked with a power level of 300.

How about this, which one is more powerful, this...

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=aZPPW41LXJs (Roshi destroying the moon)...

Or this...

http://s1343.photobucket.com/user/dbzrk/media/Tech8_zps50a066ab.jpg.html
http://s1343.photobucket.com/user/dbzrk/media/Tech81_zps580ecf85.jpg.html

If you don't know who that is, that is Omega who just ripped through Thanos shields and koed him. Omega is basically Galactus but more powerful. As shown, the blast only created a dent in the ground whereas Master Roshi blast destroyed the moon. We later on have Piccolo casually doing the same thing so again. Basing it off of collateral damage, Goku mountain busting (lol) should be able to drop Thanos.

Don't you agree. Hell, Nappa should be able to lift his finger and drop him based off this showing, correct.

Originally posted by carver9
Who said I'm focusing on Goku high ends though (i think this is the question you are asking me). You are the one that presumes every blast a DBZ character dishes out is suppose to blow up a planet. Comics doesn't work like that. The most powerful of characters has been killed or hurt by attacks that didn't destroy Earth let alone other planets they were fighting on.

Here with have Thanos damaged by a blast that didn't even destroy the landscape they are on...

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/19827125/vs8.jpg.html

I guess that means Nappa can kill him (and by the way, that is Nova Prime who doesn't have a single ft of destroying a planet, let alone a continent, etc...).

Collateral damage for the win.

And tanking supernova feats etc if you have no problem with the "collateral damage is meaningless" way of thinking

Originally posted by BloodRain
Good, so Thor retains his casual planet busting collateral feats.

And Goku retains his FTL speed ft. Glad we agree. Goku stomps.

Originally posted by StealthRanger
And tanking supernova feats etc if you have no problem with the "collateral damage is meaningless" way of thinking

Scans? And I thought you were using average showings? Is that what we are talking about?

Originally posted by carver9
And Goku retains his FTL speed ft. Glad we agree. Goku stomps.

Originally posted by BloodRain
Which would in turn mean Thor gets his too. Can we have this as confirmation for Thor from you?

Don't have a problem with that since the argument is still in my favor by a huge gap since Thor on his best day can't react to Goku.