Originally posted by BloodRain
Cool, FTL Thor vs MHS/R Goku.
Show me some FTL reflexes/speed from Thor. We all know Mjlonir is FTL but everyone in the comic forum has been looking for those reflex fts. Maybe you have something all of us are unaware of. Scans please so that I can present it in the comic vs forum. I'll even give you the benefit of the doubt and drop this down to mach 500 reflexes/speed without Mjlonir.
Originally posted by carver9Don't have a problem with that since the argument is still in my favor by a huge gap since Thor on his best day can't react to Goku. [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=14871430]Originally posted by BloodRain
Which would in turn mean Thor gets his too. Can we have this as confirmation for Thor from you?
Anyhow.
What about Thor fighting and tagging Quicksilver who he calls slow, Zefa(?), Hyperion, Gladiator, Juvan (momentarily matched QS), Firelord who reacted to the hammers thrown speed, BRB, Adam Warlock noting his speed, dodging a cursed Mjolnirs flight right at him? (Notice I left out the Surfer fight or one of Hermes' as it was a throw, not a strike). Most of all would be him, and others on his level, engaging in combat while flying at FTL speeds. He has the reflexes to fight MHS/C characters, which is enough here.
Along with his superior stats and energy absorption, whats left?
Originally posted by BloodRain
[B]Don't have a problem with that since the argument is still in my favor by a huge gap since Thor on his best day can't react to Goku.
Anyhow.
What about Thor fighting and tagging Quicksilver who he calls slow, Zefa(?), Hyperion, Gladiator, Juvan (momentarily matched QS), Firelord who reacted to the hammers thrown speed, BRB, Adam Warlock noting his speed, dodging a cursed Mjolnirs flight right at him? (Notice I left out the Surfer fight or one of Hermes' as it was a throw, not a strike). Most of all would be him, and others on his level, engaging in combat while flying at FTL speeds. He has the reflexes to fight MHS/C characters, which is enough here.
Along with his superior stats and energy absorption, whats left? [/B][/QUOTE]
Hulk has tagged Quicksilver...
Please post the Hyperion showing. Hulk has tagged him as well and actually defeated him. Did you not see the Gladiator fight? When Gladiator decided to use his speed, Thor couldn't react and Glads koed him. Do I have to post it? Lol...first I want you to post some reflex fts for Firelord. Combat speed fts and lol at reacting to Thor's hammer. Thor was enraged in the scan below when he threw the hammer...
http://i1096.photobucket.com/albums/g340/Fernando072295/hulkvsavengers01_zps487bcb53.jpg
How fast was Beta going? By the way, show me those Beta light speed reaction showings. Lol at Adam Warlock. Laugh out freaking loud.
I want you to bring up the Surfer showings though and show me how fast Surfer was going when he fought Thor because Hulk has hit him as well. Question, since Hulk has outright defeated everyone on your list, including Gladiator, does Hulk have FTL reflexes as well?
Originally posted by BloodRain
Wait, so now we're back to using characters to low-end a feat?Welp, was a nice train while it lasted. Guess its back to trying to take the "Solar flare dodge" argument seriously.
How is that lowballing when the fts you've named was lame? Especially when every last one or those characters rarely if every fight at light speed 99% of the time.
Originally posted by BloodRain
First thing I see is a reference to Hulk. Twice in fact.
I can switch it up if you want. Wolverine has fought Gladiator and stabbed through him. Hyperion had fought Wonderman and Wonderman held his own until Hyperion rammed him through a planet into a nearby sun. Juggernaut has also fought Hyperion, a weakened Juggernaut and they stalemated. Blue Marvel defeated Hyperion and he doesn't have a single bullet catching ft, lets not even include light speed in this. I can go on for days.
Quicksilver wasn't even moving when Thor slammed his hammer on the ground.
Your argument is flawed.
How about this. We have people in a thread talking about how slow Thor is and how he doesn't do well against speed.
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=481668&pagenumber=417#post14872179
Comic vs Forum. I bet you will not go in this thread and bring up everything you just said to me about Thor speed. Shed some light in our eyes. They think he is slow, nothing has countered their arguments but I feel safe at saying you will convince everyone.
🙂
I believe in you blood rain.
Originally posted by pym-ftw
So because Goku has a feat of barely ftl which is dubious but I'm not gonna need to argue against it for this point; Thor has beaten Surfer who is billions of times faster than Goku,... so Thor Blitzes now?
As a child he has a FTL speed showing. He became much faster during Dragonball. By the time DB ended, his child self would be a statue to him.
What does Thor beating Surfer have to do with anything? How fast was Surfer moving when Thor beat him and provide evidence to support your claim since we know it's rare that anyone in Marvel combats at light speed. Hell, minus the Flashes it's rare that comic characters, DC and Marvel combat at light speed.
Originally posted by ScreamPaste
"Direct feat" isn't the term I'd use, it'd be hard to prove Goku grabbed the glasses after the solar flare was launched, rather than before. Dat wind up.
Tien was looking right at him and the solar flare went off which lead to Goku grabbing the glasses just in time before it hit him. Also, Goku doesn't even need light speed to blitz Thor as if he was a statue. You honestly don't have anything and again, the Anime is canon here. So even if you deny Goku having FTL in the Manga, he sure as hell have it in the Anime. Goku and Broly stomps.
Originally posted by pym-ftw
Itslikearguing with a complete idiot...Goku's feats count for Broly but Surfers don't for Thor because no real arguments can be made...
Broly didn't dodge anything in three movies...
But Goku was most definitely moving at super speed against Broly and Broly countered it. The crazy thing about it is, Broly blitzed Goku. Goku speed meant nothing to Broly. That's the difference here. If Thor fought Surfer and was too fast for him, then you would have something going for yourself BUS Broly was faster than Goku. Much faster. Then he blitzed Vegeta, Piccolo, everyone he faced.