Originally posted by Selenial
The entire purpose of Fisto's style was to fight multiple opponents, he mastered it better than any before him but it still wasn't a dueling form, and had its disadvantages.The fact it's designed to cope with 4 lightsabers being thrown at you is likely why he beat Grevious, it wouldn't be the same with Bane.
Bane struggled to defeat his apprentice in spite of a physical advantage, superior raw ability in the force, and he could've just as easily drawn on Ambria's nexus to win. And Zannah likewise is a terrible duelist. He would get smashed by Fisto, adding Thanaton for support and Bane is done for.
Originally posted by Sinious
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Again who has Bane beaten without orbalisks, a nexus, by virtue of his own skill. Emperor, Neph, and others have never posted any feats aside from when he beat Sirrak (who he lost to). Still waiting for an answer. I also provided speed feats for Fisto, Bane has nothing to compare to. Fighting faster than trained force sensitives perceive > blocking and dodging rain drops
Originally posted by Sinious
You're ignoring all his feats cause they were on nexus. You assume too much about the effects of nexus energies. Stop pretending to know exactly how much effect the nexus has on Bane.
The potency if his feats is affected by a nexus. Off Lehon POD Bane broke boxes and tents, and on Lehon he brought down a pillar. Off nexus Bane was barely fast enough to deflect rain drops, on Korriban he ran in a blur. He was plainly boosted by it whether you care go acknowledge it or not. These are not 'assumptions' Bane has simply never replicated any of his higher end feats because the nexus/amp boosted their potency. Fisto's feats are all superior to unamped Bane
Originally posted by carthage
The potency if his feats is affected by a nexus. Off Lehon POD Bane broke boxes and tents, and on Lehon he brought down a pillar. Off nexus Bane was barely fast enough to deflect rain drops, on Korriban he ran in a blur. He was plainly boosted by it whether you care go acknowledge it or not. These are not 'assumptions' Bane has simply never replicated any of his higher end feats because the nexus/amp boosted their potency. Fisto's feats are all superior to unamped Bane
Im not gonna argue about nexus effects with you for obvious reasons.
I'll tell you this though:
Fisto at his prime couldnt manage to defend himself against Sidious for 3 seconds even though Windu was with him which I guess is a good feat for a jedi council member since Sidious is unbelievably powerful but surely one the most powerful dark lords of the sith would not fall so easily especially with Windu aiding him.
Bane + Windu vs ROTS Sidious in a saber duel would go very different than how Fisto + Windu vs Sidious went.
This comparison itself should clearly prove Bane's superiority to Fisto.
I never said Kenobi could defeat Bane in a second, and as usual he Bane cult on this forum either simply lowballs of fails to provide superior feats for Bane. Kenobi by feats should be able to defeat Bane, as Bane unlike any other top tier Sith lacks any force feats to suggest he can kill Kenobi aside from lightning.
Originally posted by Sinious
Im not gonna argue about nexus effects with you for obvious reasons.I'll tell you this though:
Fisto at his prime couldnt manage to defend himself against Sidious for 3 seconds even though Windu was with him which I guess is a good feat for a jedi council member since Sidious is unbelievably powerful but surely one the most powerful dark lords of the sith would not fall so easily especially with Windu aiding him.
Bane + Windu vs ROTS Sidious in a saber duel would go very different than how Fisto + Windu vs Sidious went.
This comparison itself should clearly prove Bane's superiority to Fisto.
Your opinion isnt an a feat though, Bane bas no feats to suggest he wouldnt be blitzed outright like Kolar. Windu only lasted due to a massive amp he gained from Sidious, something Bane is incapable of and even before vaapad in the ROTS novel they died before Windu realized it. Nothing Bane has ever demonstrated has ever suggested otherwise.
Originally posted by Sinious
So I've noticed. I'm just trying to figure out if he actually believes ROTS Sidious could kill Bane in 1 second in a saber fight. It will be both amusing and depressing if this is the case.
Prove he couldnt Bane is slower than Tiin and Windu, and Sidious couldve blitzed them both.
Bane has some pretty ****ing insane physical feats in regards to speed, strength, agility, and capability as a tank (off nexus). He also has an insanely impressive lightning feat that puts him within the top three sith lightning practitioners of the mythos (off nexus). And Bane's own performance against Kas'im and Lsu demonstrate remarkable skill whether you feel like lowballing him or not. Bane also has some amazing accolades for his power, whether you want him to or not.
You seem to have some perverse obsession with Bane where you bring up him, or any character closely affiliated with him, just to shit on them. It's pointless, it's annoying, and it's done solely for the intention of spiting me.
Banes lightning has only killed non force sensitive fodder, Fisto can absorb it with a saber or Thanaton can deflect it. You havent posted any feats that suggest Bane is faster than Fisto, and you have absolutely failed to post an individual apart from Sirrak that Bane beat by virtue of his skill alone without a nexus or amp. You more or less have no case, Bane loses to this team