What was derived from text was Bane thinking he couldn't perform a feat, that was clearly inferior to Bane's feats with orbalisks lol. Again you're presuming that dodging rain drops and swatting them, is more impressive than Bane appearing to wield 12 lightsabers, Bane matching the speed of an Echani battlemaster (when she faded from his senses), and Bane killing a mook assassin before he could react.
If you honestly think dodging slow moving water droplets is more impressive than those amped feats you're a massive joke.
You have failed to demonstrate Bane's POD feats as superior to Fistos (and they're all nexus feats). I've fulfilled my burden of proof by providing feats for an unamped Fisto as superior to DOE Bane, the rest is on you and you've completely and dismally failed to prove anything.
If you want to continue then by all means.
Except that's Bane's own opinion and not substantiated in any way other than his own self-confirmation. You have a horrible knack for trying to pass perspective based quotes as feats, Bane's amped Orbalisk feats are clearly superior to swatting at rain in his backyard no matter how you try to spin it.
Again you're asking rational human beings to believe that failing to dodge water droplets/swatting at them is a superior feat to dodging blaster bolts, fighting faster than hyperattuned force sensitives can perceive, as well as moving fast enough to form blurring trails, webs of light, is superior. The burden of proof is on you, Bane's own self affirmation is not a viable feat.
Originally posted by carthage
No he isn't and again Bane never replicated the speed feats he did in DOE hence why Emperor has had to invoke the rain feat and try to pass it off as "superior", in spite of my constant debunking of it. Bane with Orbalisks fought faster than Zannah could perceive, and fought fast enough to react to battle med-enhanced Jedi- yet you are deliberately ignoring his own admission of his decline in physical ability and the fact that he could barely deflect rain dropsThe one who is biased is the one who is trying to pass of Bane's enhanced feats as things he's legitimately capable of, in spite of his admitted physical decline and in spite of his utter failure to replicare those feats.
Well I'd imagine that he never replicated his feats from DoE because he dies at the end of the book. Sorry for the spoilers. 😉 I ignore his physical decline because it's by such a tiny amount. He was only "the merest fraction" slower. And at any rate he indicates that he's more than made up for his physical "weakness" with improved experience and force mastery. So it is truly a moot point.
That's nice of you to say.
Well I'd imagine that he never replicated his feats from DoE because he dies at the end of the book. Sorry for the spoilers. wink I ignore his physical decline because it's by such a tiny amount. He was only "the merest fraction" slower. And at any rate he indicates that he's more than made up for his physical "weakness" with improved experience and force mastery. So it is truly a moot point.
He admitted he was slower, he never replicated his amped feats, and you're only real defense is to say you've made the conscious choice to concede to his admitted physical degredation. Yeah, you're not looking through beer goggles at all. 😆
Considering that in a storm like that there would've been a thousand raindrops flying his way a second, yes that is impressive.And a Sith Lord admitting something is beyond their limits is a statement that should be taken seriously.
Again he failed to block all of them, dodged some of them, and this still doesn't make it a superior feat to fighting faster than a hyperattuned force sensitive. All Bane did was form an shield out of his blade to block water droplets that's all. Again Bane's own opinion is not an actual feat.
Originally posted by carthage
He admitted he was slower, he never replicated his amped feats, and you're only real defense is to say you've made the conscious choice to concede to his admitted physical degredation. Yeah, you're not looking through beer goggles at all. 😆
Are you.... incapable of understanding the meaning of the phrase "the merest fraction"? I'll give you a hint, it indicates a miniscule amount of degradation. Bane admitting that he was an insignificant amount slower than he was at an unknown point in time is the height of irrelevancy. When something is irrelevant, it is only logical to ignore it.
About Bane's lightning:
Raskta successfully blocked Bane's lightning barrage with use of lightsabers. She benefitted from Battle Meditation of Worror at this point but this development demonstrates that it is possible to contain Bane's lightning with use of lightsabers.
In addition, Worror used some kind of technique to trap Bane within a field of energy that resulted in Bane getting incinerated by his own lightning, Bane's orbalisks didn't help during this situation since they were vulnerable to lightning.
One opponent literally dodged Bane's lightning storm. Impressive.
This being said, Bane's lightning is potent enough to burn/incinerate Force-users, at-least up to a certain level.
Originally posted by carthage
Yet you still have not shown any feats that suggest he is faster than Fisto other than your own opinion. He still admitted he was degraded, you still have failed to provide any feats to show he is faster, and your opinion doesn't make him any faster based on his showings.
Ok, so what I'm getting here is that you're some sort of moron who doesn't grasp the concept that being weakened doesn't actually mean anything if it is by a tiny amount or is off-set by other factors.
I'm not providing feats for you since you're a hopeless troll and I don't want to waste time being serious with you. So I'm sticking to pointing out some basic facts to you about a few things. I've already told you that I'm not bothering to debate you about 3 times now but since you have the intellect of a sea cucumber it seems I need to repeat myself. Ah well.
Your concession is accepted Neph. Again you always try to pass your opinions as feats, hopelessly ignore the requisite proofs you're supposed to bring to prove he's faster than Fisto, also you blatantly lied and said Orbalisk Bane's feats are representative of Bane's true speed in spite of his amp.
I win
Uh-huh. I'm pleased that you're so happy for yourself. Since you've completely failed to rebut my actual point though, your claims of victory come off as rather limp. Bane in DoE is, at the worst, the merest fraction slower than he was in RoT. And since you've already conceded that RoT Bane's speed is well above Fisto's that means DoE Bane is as well.
Until you cease putting your fingers in your ears and throwing a temper tantrum like a little baby, I believe I'll stop wasting my time with you. You were an amusing diversion, at least. So thanks for the chuckles.
I'm not throwing a temper tantrum, again the onus of proof is on you as I've done all I can to post Fisto's feats in which you have absolutely nothing you've posted to prove Bane is faster than
RoT Bane's speed is well above Fisto's that means DoE Bane is as well.
Lolnope. I said ROT Bane's speed feats were faster than DOE Bane was amped in ROT and moved faster than simply deflecting raindrops and failing to catch most of them.
Like I said you and the Bane cult have failed to offer any speed feats for DOE Bane to prove he's faster than Fisto.
Nah, you're clearly flailing around in the depths of the most violent of hissy fits. 😆
Once again, the onus isn't on me because I never claimed to be arguing about this fight. I'm just responding to a few of your comments. Sigh. I wonder how many times I'll need to repeat myself until you're able to grasp that.