Darth Vader vs Emperor Vitiate

Started by Nephthys6 pages
Originally posted by Sinious
Vitiate does to him what he did to Revan.

Except worse.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Worse actually

Emperor would first rip the cybernetics apart and then reduce the flesh inside to ash with his powers.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Except worse.

True. The lightning factor by itself allows Vitiate to easily destroy him.

Uh yeah he is.

Revan hasn't fought invisibly fast, never overwhelmed a force sensitive before they could react, never deflected turret fire, never generated after images or, moved his saber faster than thought. He is slower by a significant margin, and that doesn't even address the disparity between their TK feats

Vader knows tutaminus and can absorb Vitiate's lightning that way or simply use his saber. Off nexus Vitiate has no lightning feats to suggest otherwise

P.S I don't care about what you believe.

Originally posted by carthage
Ah woops, thought you were. My apologies

You're my son, Cart. Don't apologize.

Originally posted by carthage
Uh yeah he is.

Revan hasn't fought invisibly fast, never overwhelmed a force sensitive before they could react, never deflected turret fire, never generated after images or, moved his saber faster than thought. He is slower by a significant margin, and that doesn't even address the disparity between their TK feats

Vader knows tutaminus and can absorb Vitiate's lightning that way or simply use his saber. Off nexus Vitiate has no lightning feats to suggest otherwise

P.S I don't care about what you believe.

You justify your radical biased opinions with your strict obsession for feats which means nothing. Vitiate's one-shoting the team of the greatest jedi of that era is off nexus. But hey, I'm not gonna get into this again. I leave you to the hands of SW_Legend.

I don't have the patience to go through this again.

Originally posted by Sinious
True. The lightning factor by itself allows Vitiate to easily destroy him.

Get off Vitiate's dick.

P.S I agree that Vader is very powerful but still he doesn't come near to %80 of Sidious.

Originally posted by SIDIOUS 66
You're my son, Cart. Don't apologize.

😑

Now this is some revelation....

Originally posted by SIDIOUS 66
Get off Vitiate's dick.

How will Vader deal with Vitiate's lightning? It's a reasonable conclusion that he won't.

And its a reasonable conclusion that its not as powerful as it is sans a nexus. All of the mooks (and Braga) did't know Tutaminus which Vader does, and he can simply absorb it with a saber.

Originally posted by carthage
And its a reasonable conclusion that its not as powerful as it is sans a nexus. All of the mooks (and Braga) did't know Tutaminus which Vader does, and he can simply absorb it with a saber.

All the mooks? 😬

Also, every Force-user learns Tutaminis.

You really don't have a clue about ground realities of the lore.

Originally posted by Sinious
You justify your radical biased opinions with your strict obsession for feats which means nothing. Vitiate's one-shoting the team of the greatest jedi of that era is off nexus. But hey, I'm not gonna get into this again. I leave you to the hands of SW_Legend.

I don't have the patience to go through this again.

It was done in orbit of Dromund Kaas a nexus, and who cares about you hyping that feat. Nothing about the properties of Vitiate's lightning make it to where it can't be absorbed by a saber or by Vader's tutaminus. Revan is a weaker character than Vader, so using him as an example will not suffice. I don't care if you don't want to get into an argument, as usual you have no recourse other than to delve into appeals to ignorance.

SW legend is on my ignore list, and I ignore his posts for the most part.

Originally posted by Nephthys
How will Vader deal with Vitiate's lightning? It's a reasonable conclusion that he won't.

Vader's strength should be capable of pushing through Vitiate's lightning with his saber, and even if some bolts manage to pass his saber defense, it's not going to be enough to take Vader out.

Originally posted by SIDIOUS 66
Vader's strength should be capable of pushing through Vitiate's lightning with his saber, and even if some bolts manage to pass his saber defense, it's not going to be enough to take Vader out.

An entire Jedi Strike Team attempted to contain Emperor's lightning with use of lightsabers, didn't work.

Originally posted by SIDIOUS 66
Vader's strength should be capable of pushing through Vitiate's lightning with his saber, and even if some bolts manage to pass his saber defense, it's not going to be enough to take Vader out.

Vader doesn't have the feats with regards to dealing with lightning to indicate that. His lightsaber defense would be overwhelmed and he'd be destroyed. Revan casually absorbed lightning powerful enough utterly disintegrate Nyriss through her shields but when faced with Vitiates lightning his defense was overwhelmed and he was engulfed in lightning. Vader doesn't have anything even close to Revan's feats against lightning, so he'd be taken out in a similar manner. You might as well argue Vader could do the same to Sidious.

Of course, Vitiate would just telepathically dominate him instead, but the lightning argument also leads to Vaders defeat so whatever.

Originally posted by Nephthys

Of course, Vitiate would just telepathically dominate him instead, but the lightning argument also leads to Vaders defeat so whatever.

Yep, Vader is a troubled man. Shouldn't be very hard to dominate his mind but like you have also said, lightning factor is enough.

How is that BS?

Originally posted by Nephthys
Vader doesn't have the feats with regards to dealing with lightning to indicate that. His lightsaber defense would be overwhelmed and he'd be destroyed. Revan casually absorbed lightning powerful enough utterly disintegrate Nyriss through her shields but when faced with Vitiates lightning his defense was overwhelmed and he was engulfed in lightning. Vader doesn't have anything even close to Revan's feats against lightning, so he'd be taken out in a similar manner. You might as well argue Vader could do the same to Sidious.

Of course, Vitiate would just telepathically dominate him instead, but the lightning argument also leads to Vaders defeat so whatever.

Vader is physically superior to Revan, and he can absorb lightning onto his saber. He's done so against Dooku as Anakin. There is absolutely nothing to suggest Vitiate can overpower Vader's saber defense, given Vader's immense strength. And no, the same can't be said about Sidious, because Sidious has overwhelmed the saber defenses of physical power houses with ease.

If Vitiate goes for a TP assault, Vader could just hurl Vitiate on his ass and proceed with another attack before Vitiate could get up.

Why wouldn't the greatest Jedi in the order know Tutaminis, a skill taught to almost everyone? I agree that Vader's could possibly be better, but to say that they didn't know it...

Again Sidious you're giving credence to the idea that Vitiate can even try to attempt to prod Vader's mind and actually "dominate" him. Why would this be he case when all of his domination feats are on a nexus?