Originally posted by RobtardThors hammer> Lightsaber.
Different types of damage. But it's a fair enough argument.
Lightsabers cant cut through everything, infact there are many things lightsabers cant cut. They are a great weapon but they don't > all. Thors hammer however has proven to be able to deal a lot more damage.
Originally posted by WildBantha88
Thors hammer> Lightsaber.Lightsabers cant cut through everything, infact there are many things lightsabers cant cut. They are a great weapon but they don't > all. Thors hammer however has proven to be able to deal a lot more damage.
You're still comparing smashing damage to heat/cutting. Which is faulty.
Let me give you an example: Iron Man's armor was hit by Mjolnir; it took some damage and was dented. Are you going to say that a lightsabre wouldn't easily cut through Iron Man's armor?
Jedis have been killed hurt by explosions , blasters, etc.
Is Sidious's Durability good enough to survive a blast from loki? Meaning lets say Sidious dodges a full on blast with the scepter , the blast hits the floor next to him , there is an explosion. Does Sidious survive the explosion next to him, when other Jedis have been injured or killed by explosions? Is he injured?
How durable is Sidious?
How far apart are they before the fight?. If they are face to face then yeah sidious has a huge advatage. If they are a good deal apart from each other before starting to fight then Sidious's advantage is greatly depleted.
Originally posted by DTM
Hes tanked worst than getting his head or a limb cut off? A lightsaber isnt simply damage, its Cutting/Slashing damage, removal of limbs damage, not just SLAM.....Im OK damage. Big difference there.
Lets see the damage he has taken would have cut holes through the jedi, disintegrated and dismembered them. Can we cut it out with the lightsaber can cut through anything bs, its really getting old.
Originally posted by DTM
Im not saying a lightsaber could cut through anything, but Id say it would cut through Asgardian flesh and armor. Adamantium, uru, sure, but Loki himself, yes I do believe a lightsaber would be able to slice through it. Maybe not like a hot knife through butter, but solidly enough in the end.
Nothing else has pierced Loki and he has been hit with far worse then a lightsaber. Didn't I mention all the feats he has tanked. The saber ain't working on him like it works on humans.
Originally posted by Time ImmemorialAll those feats and thor has even better feats. Yet a small metal dagger pierced his flesh. His scepter could withstand a lightsaber and his armor will most likely deflect light strikes but a full on lightsaber strike is something he better avoid unless he enjoys being dismembered
Nothing else has pierced Loki and he has been hit with far worse then a lightsaber. Didn't I mention all the feats he has tanked. The saber ain't working on him like it works on humans.
Loki is taken repulsor blast twice by Iron Man and gotten up. Hulk smashed him and hit got some cuts and bruises but still survived, even sitting up later. That's some serious durability. Got blown up by one of Hawkeye's grenade arrow point blank and was only bruised. In fact, it actually looks like his bruised on his face was sustained some time before that so that grenade might not even have scratched his face. This is the same grenade arrow that blew a huge hole into the metal shell of a carriers wind turbine. People act as if a swing from a lightsaber is going to cut Loki up when Loki does have higher durability than most of the things Lightsabers have gone up against. It may cut him but I doubt it would be from a simple swing. A swing would likely only scratch the guy which opens Palpaltine up to Loki blasting his face apart.
Originally posted by DTM
Hulk punches and Repulsor Blasts are NOT the same type of attack as a Lightsaber. One is of a more blunt/force attack, the other is a slashing/cutting attack, they are both physical attacks, but the damage they cause is very different.
Tony's repulsers were cutting through steel, same as lightsabers. Its shown him going through the hellicarrier with his repulsers as well. They can cut just like a saber. The myth that lightsabers are now stronger then the destroyers weapon and IM repulsers is a little far fetched tbh. We even see Thor tanking a blast from Gungir, so we could count on Loki could as well.
Originally posted by Time Immemorial*pushes up his nerd glasses* so I know this is an in movie debate but if you really want the definitive answer of if a lightsaber could harm Loki I could explain how lightsabers function and what things resist lightsabers.
Tony's repulsers were cutting through steel, same as lightsabers. Its shown him going through the hellicarrier with his repulsers as well. They can cut just like a saber. The myth that lightsabers are now stronger then the destroyers weapon and IM repulsers is a little far fetched tbh. We even see Thor tanking a blast from Gungir, so we could count on Loki could as well.
A lightsaber blade is actually a blade of pure immensely hot plasma held inside an arching containment field. The blade only ever emits heat when it comes in contact with a material and the resistance the blade meets when cutting through materials is based on the materials density. The denser the material the more resistance the lightsaber will meet. Also the blade has no real mass but when swinging the blade it has a gyroscopic effect, meaning once you get the blade moving in a direction it doesn't want to stop. This is why lightsabers are hard weapons to master and why most jedi prefer to hold a lightsaber with two hands. This actually is a benefit because it makes power attacks easier and more momentum behind the blade means greater cutting power. Also lightsaber blades can be broken. And im not talking about the hilt I am talking about the actual blade. But this is so rare that it has only happened once, and it was fixed by the person turning the blade off and on again.
Now the few things that are resistant to lightsaber blades in starwars are usually force enhanced metal, a special metal named cortosis that has a small chance of shorting out the blade on contact, and the most effect of all of them is Mandalorian Iron. Also one of the rarest substances in the universe. All of these things have endurance factors that are off the charts.
So to tell if Loki can really resist a lightsaber we would need to know, A, his density, and B, his resistance to pure super heated plasma.
Now none of this is from the movies this is just me being a super starwars nerd so if you chose to discard all this info I get it.
Originally posted by WildBantha88
*pushes up his nerd glasses* so I know this is an in movie debate but if you really want the definitive answer of if a lightsaber could harm Loki I could explain how lightsabers function and what things resist lightsabers.A lightsaber blade is actually a blade of pure immensely hot plasma held inside an arching containment field. The blade only ever emits heat when it comes in contact with a material and the resistance the blade meets when cutting through materials is based on the materials density. The denser the material the more resistance the lightsaber will meet. Also the blade has no real mass but when swinging the blade it has a gyroscopic effect, meaning once you get the blade moving in a direction it doesn't want to stop. This is why lightsabers are hard weapons to master and why most jedi prefer to hold a lightsaber with two hands. This actually is a benefit because it makes power attacks easier and more momentum behind the blade means greater cutting power. Also lightsaber blades can be broken. And im not talking about the hilt I am talking about the actual blade. But this is so rare that it has only happened once, and it was fixed by the person turning the blade off and on again.
Now the few things that are resistant to lightsaber blades in starwars are usually force enhanced metal, a special metal named cortosis that has a small chance of shorting out the blade on contact, and the most effect of all of them is Mandalorian Iron. Also one of the rarest substances in the universe. All of these things have endurance factors that are off the charts.
So to tell if Loki can really resist a lightsaber we would need to know, A, his density, and B, his resistance to pure super heated plasma.
Now none of this is from the movies this is just me being a super starwars nerd so if you chose to discard all this info I get it.
Good post. Since its impossible to know what would happen to him via lightsaber, we can only go off feats relating to heat and cutting and explosions based off his movie feats because there is no cross over.
If we look at Asgardian durability
Things they no sold with little effect.
Thor has tanked Gungir twice. Loki's durability rivals his brothers.
Loki has tanked the spear of destiny once, and the destroyer weapon
They both tanked the bi frost explosion and and Iron Mans's Repulsors.
Took a exploding arrow to the face.
Im inclined to think it would slash him but doing a repeat of Darth Maul in halves is highly unlikely.