Loki vs Darth Sidious

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Originally posted by The_Tempest
No, it wasn't. Rewatch the scene: there's a merc present when Loki tricks Thor. The merc released Loki, Loki sets up an illusion, Thor tackles it and is trapped inside. No teleportation implied or required.

That still doesn't explain how he got out..

The mercenary... let him out.

Originally posted by The_Tempest
The mercenary... let him out.

PROVE THAT MERC HAD RELEASE-LOKI-OUT-OF-PRISON POWAHS!

WHAT DO YOU CALL THOSE THINGS AT THE END OF HIS ARMS BRO

Hahaha, I actually really thought he teleported out, memory hazy on the merc letting him out. Wasn't trying to troll.

I dont think Loki ever teleports in MCU, he had illusions make others thing he was one place, when he was actually in another, but thats not teleportation.

Originally posted by Robtard
Speed blitzing multiple Jedi and slaughtering them in a few seconds. Which is what he does here to Loki, just a little quicker, since he only has to kill one person.

Do you think Loki could take on these four and kill three in a matter of seconds before they can react?

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Loki is one tough badass, but he has just being that...one tough punching bag.

Originally posted by Robtard
Speed blitzing multiple Jedi and slaughtering them in a few seconds. Which is what he does here to Loki, just a little quicker, since he only has to kill one person.

Do you think Loki could take on these four and kill three in a matter of seconds before they can react?

If they fight like they did when Palpatine slaughtered them?

Yeah.

Yeah he really could.

if loki had a lightsaber, its probable

Originally posted by NemeBro
If they fight like they did when Palpatine slaughtered them?

Yeah.

Yeah he really could.

Well thats true lol. The first two would get owned by scepter lol. They just kind of just stood there like complete idiots.

Originally posted by The_Tempest
He can relieve Loki of his scepter at his leisure and beat him into submission.

Damn So obvious yet I never even thought of that. Won't matter how durable Loki is if Sidious can use his own Scepter on him. A scepter plus Lightsaber dual wielding Sidious..

Originally posted by Zack Fair
Well thats true lol. The first two would get owned by scepter lol. They just kind of just stood there like complete idiots.

Put that down to artistic crappery. Definitely the worst moment in ROTS.

They made the Sidious vs Jedi Masters kill much better in The Clone Wars. Its blurred and only for a few seconds, but gave the impression of speed.

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Okay, I rewatched Clone Wars. Sidious definitely seems to have the better offensive feats, but Loki survived the Bifrost explosion, not to mention the Dark World feats, so I am not sure whether Sidious could actually put him down for the count. However his versatility and abilities are certainly much better proven in direct combat so I change my vote to him for now.

Yeah Loki is without doubt more durable.

Oh definitely. Based on screenfeats, Loki is one of the most durable characters shown in the MCU. This is why I am still not convinced that a saber could just cut through him. Maintained pressure or repeated blows, sure. But not quick, clean strikes.

However, Sidious really does get a MASSIVE upgrade feats wise, in the Clone Wars. Not only in physical stats (being displayed as much faster, skilled, agile etc. as well as having the strength to easily perform one armed blocks against guys like Savage and Maul), but he has niftier force feats too, like choking and lifting 2 people at once while not being anywhere near them, or even seeing them. So I still see his level of force tk still being a problem for Loki to deal with, even if it doesn't do any lasting damage. And if he tk disarms Loki and attacks him with his own spear, Loki is ****ed.

The animated series, for me, did what RotS failied to do. Actually make Sidious look like the powerful Sith Lord he is supposed to be.

Loki, on the other hand, is one of the many characters to have their abilities MASSIVELY watered down in the movies. I mean all the heavy hitters got the short end, but he really got robbed. Went from the most powerful sorcerer in Asgard to a guy who can cast illusions, astral project, and has one feat of low level tk. If they were going to take so much of his magic away, they should have given him more consistent showings using his Frost Giant powers. Frost giants have been shown creating blades, projectiles etc. strong enough to harm Asgardians with their ice, and Loki has had large chunk of Thor, Thor 2, the Avengers, and the time between Thor and the Avengers to develop these powers. But he only ever shows basic ice powers while in possession of the Cask of Ancient Winters, never again before or after that. It's lame as shit. They should expand his powerset for future appearances.

Loki wins. Deal with it fanboys.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Loki wins. Deal with it fanboys.

Well, I'm convinced. Well said, quan. Well said.

Originally posted by The_Tempest
Well, I'm convinced. Well said, quan. Well said.
Sometimes you nerds need a stern hand.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Sometimes you nerds need a stern hand.

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Originally posted by DARTH POWER

Put that down to artistic crappery. Definitely the worst moment in ROTS.
People give Bane and Batman shit due to shitty choreography and disregard feats because of it. Why shouldn't we for Sidious?