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Started by Silent Master6 pages

carver thought doing that would make Hulk the MVP in Marvels victory, because let's not kid ourselves, there is no way carver made a thread where he believes the Hulk loses.

The team might be able to due some damage but honestly the speed of the twivamps, the underworld universe also has some heavy hitters and firepower, is going to be overwhelming.

If anything I think Ronan's Hammer blasts at this point will be the teams best weapon. It's an area effect attack that the twivamps may not be able to avoid and can fling an entire team of strong people to the ground. It may be enough to stun any twi vamps for Hulk and Thor to go to town of them.

Ronan himself is strong enough to send someone flying and embedding them into a solid metal wall with a casual hit. That someone being Drax who is also incredibly strong. IMO opinion that gives Ronan the strength edge against the vamps and wolves.

Of course numbers and sheer speed is going to eventually take the team down. It just depends on how long you think they may last.

Didn't the AOE/ranged attacks only happen after Ronan added the stone to his weapon?

Originally posted by Silent Master
Didn't the AOE/ranged attacks only happen after Ronan added the stone to his weapon?
He did use it to snap that one guy's neck before the gem.

When he survives the attack from Starlord he hits them with a wave of the same energy as that attack.

I think that attack is within Ronin's normal power level as I think a gem enhanced attack for have vaporized the GOTG.

Now the attack he used on the Nova Corp barricade was definitely gem enhanced and not something he could regularly do.

Originally posted by Silent Master
carver thought doing that would make Hulk the MVP in Marvels victory, because let's not kid ourselves, there is no way carver made a thread where he believes the Hulk loses.

I said Hulk would lose against Superman 1 on 1. 😕

Originally posted by Newjak
He did use it to snap that one guy's neck before the gem.

When he survives the attack from Starlord he hits them with a wave of the same energy as that attack.

I think that attack is within Ronin's normal power level as I think a gem enhanced attack for have vaporized the GOTG.

Now the attack he used on the Nova Corp barricade was definitely gem enhanced and not something he could regularly do.

I had forgotten about him killing Thanos' minion.

Originally posted by Silent Master
I had forgotten about him killing Thanos' minion.
Yeah if it hadn't been for that scene I would have said every hammer AoE/Ranged attack would have been part of the gem.

Originally posted by Newjak
The team might be able to due some damage but honestly the speed of the twivamps, the underworld universe also has some heavy hitters and firepower, is going to be overwhelming.

If anything I think Ronan's Hammer blasts at this point will be the teams best weapon. It's an area effect attack that the twivamps may not be able to avoid and can fling an entire team of strong people to the ground. It may be enough to stun any twi vamps for Hulk and Thor to go to town of them.

Ronan himself is strong enough to send someone flying and embedding them into a solid metal wall with a casual hit. That someone being Drax who is also incredibly strong. IMO opinion that gives Ronan the strength edge against the vamps and wolves.

Of course numbers and sheer speed is going to eventually take the team down. It just depends on how long you think they may last.

I'm not sure if Ronan is really any stronger than a Twivamp. I mean, if his best strength feat is throwing Drax a couple of meters away, well, it's definitely not something that puts him above the tree pushing feat of Edward.

Hulk, Abom and Thor I'm sure are stronger than the average Twivamp. Not so sure about Ronan's strength yet.

In any case, I failed to see in the OP that Thor was gimped to only melee. Marvel team definitely has no chance now, as Thor was their ace card.

Originally posted by FrothByte
I'm not sure if Ronan is really any stronger than a Twivamp. I mean, if his best strength feat is throwing Drax a couple of meters away, well, it's definitely not something that puts him above the tree pushing feat of Edward.

Hulk, Abom and Thor I'm sure are stronger than the average Twivamp. Not so sure about Ronan's strength yet.

In any case, I failed to see in the OP that Thor was gimped to only melee. Marvel team definitely has no chance now, as Thor was their ace card.

He didn't just throw him a couple of meters. He hit/pushed a man, strong enough to tear robots apart, with one hand so hard that Drax was embedded into a metal wall like it was made putty. That is not something easy to do.

Edit: I also agree that their only chance at a win was Thor going all out.

Originally posted by Newjak
He didn't just throw him a couple of meters. He hit/pushed a man, strong enough to tear robots apart, with one hand so hard that Drax was embedded into a metal wall like it was made putty. That is not something easy to do.

Edit: I also agree that their only chance at a win was Thor going all out.

Well yes but Drax's strength doesn't have as much to do with how far he was thrown as does his mass and weight. I'm not saying Ronan wasn't super strong, he obviously was. Just saying we don't know enough about him yet to conclude that he was stronger than a twivamp.

After all, Edward did casually stop that van with just a palm. And I'm pretty sure that van weighed more than Drax.

In any case, if Thor is gimped then Ronan would be the team's next best hope. But he doesn't have the mass destructive capabilities that Thor has. Bottom line is, Hulk and Abom won't be able to do much here.

Lets not forget that even though Thor is gimped, he still possesses durability, strength, speed and regeneration far greater than a normal Asgardian who are a lot more powerful than vampires and lycans. He could easily levitate Mjolnir and have it spin around him, swatting vampires and lycans away like they are flies.Still MELEE since he's using only his hammer. Ronan has immense durability seeing as the punches from Drax the Destroyer could barely affect him. Drax is also another being more powerful than vampires or werewolves. If Hulk and Abomination go all out like they did in Hulk 2008, the vampires and lycans may as well turn the other way and run as fast as possible to avoid becoming smears on the ground.

Also the OP never stated what time they would be fighting at. If it was daytime, then Underworld vampires go down rather quickly. Now as for lycans, they aren't as strong as any of these four Marvel characters. Twilight vampires may have special abilities such as Jane with her pain-causing stare but thats going to make Hulk even madder and STRONGER so it backfires. Also as for Alice's ability to see in the future, she herself also states that her visions only show a possible future,not the exact future. I think that Team Marvel has a chance but the sheer numbers may prove to be too much.

Hulk solo's.

Originally posted by King Ghidorah
Lets not forget that even though Thor is gimped, he still possesses durability, strength, speed and regeneration far greater than a normal Asgardian who are a lot more powerful than vampires and lycans. He could easily levitate Mjolnir and have it spin around him, swatting vampires and lycans away like they are flies.Still MELEE since he's using only his hammer. Ronan has immense durability seeing as the punches from Drax the Destroyer could barely affect him. Drax is also another being more powerful than vampires or werewolves. If Hulk and Abomination go all out like they did in Hulk 2008, the vampires and lycans may as well turn the other way and run as fast as possible to avoid becoming smears on the ground.

Also the OP never stated what time they would be fighting at. If it was daytime, then Underworld vampires go down rather quickly. Now as for lycans, they aren't as strong as any of these four Marvel characters. Twilight vampires may have special abilities such as Jane with her pain-causing stare but thats going to make Hulk even madder and STRONGER so it backfires. Also as for Alice's ability to see in the future, she herself also states that her visions only show a possible future,not the exact future. I think that Team Marvel has a chance but the sheer numbers may prove to be too much.

Let's also not forget that vamps have superstrength of their own. Edward was able to stop a van with one hand and push over a tree... and he's not exactly considered one of the stronger vampires.

And though I consider Hulk, Abom and Thor stronger than the average vampire, I also don't think they're strong enough from getting overwhelmed by even just 10 vamps each.

Team gets rapestomped.

Marvel team destroys and will utter ease... Most of these vampires get one shot killed by Omni blasts.. they have no way of beating Thor as I could just fly in the air the whole time and spam lighting. They also have no way of putting down the hulk before he gets super pissed. They don't have the firepower to do so... He'll just get pissed and when he does... People will get launched into space. Marvel team crushes.

Uh yeah.... I'm assuming you don't know about the other superpowers the vamps have?

So they have a way to get to Thor while flying in the air? how so?

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
So they have a way to get to Thor while flying in the air? how so?

Jane's psychic pain powers. Or her brother's sense deprivation.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Okay I'll bite: How do the verses in question put down Hulk, Abomination, and Thor?

Is there some esoteric shit in Twilight that can?

Because nothing in Underworld could.

Yep. The Marvel boys kick that ass.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Marvel team destroys and will utter ease... Most of these vampires get one shot killed by Omni blasts.. they have no way of beating Thor as I could just fly in the air the whole time and spam lighting. They also have no way of putting down the hulk before he gets super pissed. They don't have the firepower to do so... He'll just get pissed and when he does... People will get launched into space. Marvel team crushes.

thor doesn't have lightning in this fight. anyway i dunno......2 universes? thats alot of vamps and wolves...from both sides.. on top of the sheer number, there are the specials. the ones with the ability to block senses and cause pain with a thought. the super lycan that heals instantly is also in this...ALONG with hundreds of other vamps and wolves? hmmm i dunno if they can flat out kill the team (ronan may die) but the team definitely get overwhelmed. i feel like they tire out before anything.

I see jane using the psychic pain thing on the most scary/threatening looking one. Most likely abom who looks more monstrous than the hulk. Abom may fight through the pain but its def a handicap. Gets overwhelmed. Super Lycan also probs goes after him as well and claws him up good. The others....that dude with the sense deprivation puts the moves on hulk and thor. hulk goes into rage mode out of sheer fear from lose of sight/sound (thats how the power works right?). thor too. tho they may not hurt him too bad physically thor can tire out and get dogpiled. i feel like enough of the twi vamps are strong enough to do it. Ronan...well...i feel like the weaker wolves could even scratch him up. William, selene, micheal, and viktor probs even gives him trouble. He is the only one on team that gets clawed to death. Still not sure they could put the hulk down. Piss him off yea...but put it down i dunno. They could always just take away his senses and let him rage in some random direction all by himself and go after the other 3.