Originally posted by DarthAnt66
I would reply, but this claim alone makes everything you said as a grain of salt.
"Odan-Urr has gone to the Force, and now the darkest power in the galaxy walks away with something that will make him even stronger..." - Pg.226, Tales of the JedI Omnibus - Volume 2
"Exar Kun Once the most powerful and dangerous of the Dark Lords of the Sith, he was responsible for the deaths of millions four millennia before the Rise of the Empire. Killed by an overwhelming force of Jedi, the dark spirit of Exar Kun survived across the vastness of time to challenge Luke Skywalker and a new group of Jedi trainees." - The Complete Star Wars Encyclopedia
Give me the page number/volume for the second one if possible.
But yes, Exar Kun was the most powerful Sith Lord up to his time. Numerous sources have said this over the years.
Star Wars: The Old Republic Encyclopedia and the MMO Star Wars: The Old Republic now recognizes the Sith Emperor as the most powerful.
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
The Sith Emperor didn't even exist during the creation of the encyclopedia, actually, or any of Exar Kun quote's for that matter.
Your argument suggests that all of the eight works stating Palpatine is the most powerful ever, hold no relevance because the likes of Vitiate got introduced later.
We both know canon doesn't or rather didn't work like that. If two statements conflict with each other, then like Leland said, use common sense and if that common sense resolves the descripancy then that must be true, common sense dictates that all these statements are right and the above conclusion must be true.
SWTOR:E states Sith Emperor by the time of the Cold War/Second GGW, is the most powerful dark sider ever. Great, doesn't invalidate statements putting forward the fact that Kun during the GSW was the most powerful Sith up to his time. Just means he was later surpassed by Vitiate.
Originally posted by AncientPower
This is wrong actually, Sith Emperor was revealed by BioWare end of 2008, he was written about a few times during the entirety of 2009.
Originally posted by AncientPower
Even despite this, it would not interfere with the way in which these statements are relevant. Exar Kun is canonically*as far as that goes in regards to Legends content* the most powerful Sith active during his time and was not surpassed until centuries after his death when the Sith Emperor evidently grew more powerful.
Originally posted by AncientPower
Your argument suggests that all of the eight works stating Palpatine is the most powerful ever, hold no relevance because the likes of Vitiate got introduced later.
Originally posted by AncientPower
SWTOR:E states Sith Emperor by the time of the Cold War/Second GGW, is the most powerful dark sider ever. Great, doesn't invalidate statements putting forward the fact that Kun during the GSW was the most powerful Sith up to his time. Just means he was later surpassed by Vitiate.
"The Sith Emperor, history's most powerful dark side master, performed a ritual of incredible scope to consume the life energy of every being on his homeworld."
--Star Wars: The Old Republic: Encyclopedia
"Over 300 years ago, the great Jedi heroes Revan and Malak stumbled upon long-hidden Sith Empire's capital of Dromund Kaas, and its ruler - a mysterious, almost godlike avatar of the dark side."
--Star Wars: The Old Republic Encyclopedia
I love how seriously you take yourself.
Yes they do but that is completely not the point at all.
Great Sith War: Kun > All as supported in two sources.
Second GGW(The time the SWTOR:E ends coverage at): Vitiate > All, As supported in numerous sources.
See what happened there? Vitiate underwent power progression and surpassed Kun.
Ah you are assuming that the quote is all one statement, now I understand the issue.
Sith Emperor (now) recognised as history's most powerful dark side master(no one knew about him besides Revan and Surik until the GGW and therefore can't be recognised as such before said event) used a ritual..... etc..
You are mistakening this to mean that by Nathema, he was already most powerful, that is not what it is stating.
It merely states he is now recognised as such and is the creator of the most complex ritual ever.
It is not all one statement, it is called descriptive writing.
Even if you interpreted it as you did that would contradict the aforementioned Kun quotes and assume the SWTOR:E can retcon one of the most official Encyclopedias yet created, I assure you that is laughable.
The Complete Star Wars Encyclopedia is one of the most official Star Wars works yet outside of the saga and show.
Your argument is...interesting, to say the least. Now please, stop embarrassing yourself. 😬
You will have a hard time on this forum. Every member holds firm that the SWTOR:E can at least retcon events prior to TOR in the Encyclopedia, yes.
Kun's quotes are outdated, overwritten by quotes claiming Vitiate as the ultimate embodiment, avatar, god-like, and most powerful Sith Lord up to his time in history.
You cannot seriously suggest the increase of power in Vitiate between a 32 period is the difference between him and Exar Kun when the Nathema event happened a 1,000 years prior.
I am doing no such thing, unless you believe that arguing with you would be to do so, in which case I don't even know how to reply.
TCSWE > SWTOR:E, easily.
An increase of power where he surpasses Kun over a three and a half century period is certainly possible, Kun being > Vitiate by GSW does not mean he is far more powerful, just more powerful.