The BattleZone! Round 1 Match 6: Revan Reborn vs. Exar Kun

Started by AncientPower7 pages

I love how you left out the fact that Kun only used a single blade against Ulic, not his preferred weapon.

Kun couldn't take an advantage in a power duel against a highly proficient Form V practitioner, shocking...

It's actually impressive that he could stalemate Ulic in a duel using power blows with a single blade weapon, Ulic was an exceptional duellist himself and a near master of Djem So.

Also it being a spell is irrelevant, but considering you love to do nothing less than measure your lore E-peen level infront of everyone and act like it matters is itself hilarious, but also makes your manner of debating unsurprising.

If you think Exar Kun can be so easily put down with offensive abilities, then you are cute, he has only ever had his barriers breached by two beings, both of them he killed.

Kun's demonstrated Force abilities are above Revan in every manner, Kun is evidently comparable to the Sith Emperor himself(this is canon, dismiss it all you like). The same Emperor that would have killed Revan despite his 'twin rivers' gimmicky technique.

Exar Kun is clearly superior here, but I see no point in debating with you. Not only do you dismiss arguments backed with evidence put against you, but you actively belittle anyone who argues against you.

Reported for hostility and insulting, despite myself just giving constructive criticism. 👆

I love how you left out the fact that Kun only used a single blade against Ulic, not his preferred weapon.

"Among the Krath, Exar Kun came face-to-face with another fallen Jedi, whose strength matched his own."
--The Journal of Gnost-Dural

I didn't know it needed to be said...that part is quite obvious. I was speaking to experience debaters who know about both characters appropriately, not yourself. I apologize if I made it seem otherwise.
No source I have seen suggests Exar Kun gained in lightsaber skill since that encounter. And like I said, the only mentions of him improving was in "power" and in Sith magics.
In fact, for the first half of his second fight with Vodo-Siosk Baas, he uses his single blade. This is perhaps an implication he uses his double-bladed lightsaber for an advantage since no user of that era has seen one yet.

Kun couldn't take an advantage in a power duel against a highly proficient Form V practitioner, shocking...

Exar Kun couldn't take an advantage in raw skill either (the same skill you are in awe in).

It's actually impressive that he could stalemate Ulic in a duel using power blows with a single blade weapon

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lolwut? Exar Kun's skill in lightsaber combat was equal to that of Ulic Qel-Droma.
In that particular fight, power blows that Exar Kun normally used were not really that used.
If you had the comic, you would know this. It came down to a battle of skill, and they were equals.

Also it being a spell is irrelevant, but considering you love to do nothing less than measure your lore E-peen level infront of everyone and act like it matters is itself hilarious, but also makes your manner of debating unsurprising.

😂 I was merely correcting you. A spell and then Force stasis is a huge different thing.

If you think Exar Kun can be so easily put down with offensive abilities, then you are cute, he has only ever had his barriers breached by two beings, both of them he killed.

Exar Kun failed to defend himself against an attack from Odan-Urr, one who doesn't even specialize in combat.
And them, look at the difference in power between Odan and Revan, and you will clearly see my argument.

Kun's demonstrated Force abilities are above Revan in every manner

Orly? Let us see then:

--Abilities used in combat--
Telekinesis: Revan is the superior.
Revan.) Downpoured astreoids, ripped large stone-arch ways instantly, and blew open "enormous" durasteel doors with the Force, etc.
Exar Kun.) Force-pushed Sylvar, Force-choked to death a 1,000 year old Jedi, grabbed a holocron and his lightsaber.

Force Lightning: Revan is the superior.
Revan.) Killed Rancors and Rakata patrols, can summon a Force Lightning Storm.
Exar Kun). [Nothing]

Force Blast: Exar Kun is superior.
Exar Kun.) With aid of a nexus, he destroyed a Sith wymn and parts of a temple.
Revan.) [Nothing]

--Abilities used to aid the user--
Tutaminis & Force Deflection: Revan is the superior.
Revan.) Absorbed and reflected lightning that can turn Dark Council members to ash.
Exar Kun.) [Nothing]

Precognition & Force Visions: Revan is superior.
Revan.) Greater then even the Echani masters, who can predict battles months ahead, etc.
Exar Kun). [Nothing]

Force Heal: Revan is superior.
Revan.) Healed himself for Vitiate's lightning attack.
Exar Kun.) [Nothing]

Force Sense: Revan and Exar Kun are equals.
Revan.) Searched across the galaxy for Meetra Surik
Exar Kun.) Searched across the galaxy for Dark-siders.

--Abilities not used in combat--
Language Absorption: Revan is superior.
Revan.) Drew the Rakata language into his mind and implanted Basic in another Rakata.
Exar Kun.) [Nothing]

Sith Rituals: Revan and Exar Kun are equals.
Revan.) Has knowledge on a vast array of rituals that even made Darth Bane in awe, including the Thought Bomb.
Exar Kun.) Mutated a Massassi warrior, created terentateks, and built a sphere that gathered Force energies for him to absorb.

Force Drain: Exar Kun is superior here.
Revan.) Drained Meetra Surik, Merkel, and Malachor V.
Exar Kun.) Performed a ritual to drain thousands of Massassi warriors.

Sith Sorcery: Exar Kun is the superior.
Revan.) Apparently knew more shit then a Sith academy's entire archives.
Exar Kun.) Hypnotized the Galactic Senate and manipulated the Chancellor .

Essence Transfer: Exar Kun is the superior.
Revan.) [Nothing]
Exar Kun.) After a mass ritual, he was able to put his essence in the temple.

Revan is superior in Exar Kun in 5 out of the 7 powers that will be used in the battle to either aid or to be unleashed by the opponents. I accept your concession.

lmao Ant. You're good. 👆

but I think Kun takes this.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66

Orly? Let us see then:

--Abilities used in combat--
Telekinesis: Exar Kun is superior.
Revan.) Downpoured asteroids, ripped large stone-arch ways instantly, and blew open "enormous" durasteel doors with the Force, etc.
Exar Kun.) Force-pushed Sylvar, Force-choked to death a 1,000 year old Jedi, grabbed a holocron and his lightsaber, ragdolled Corran Horn with ease, Summoned a Force Whirlwind through a student, Ripped the Suncrusher put of the core of Yavin through Kyp Durron.

Force Lightning: Revan and Exar Kun are equals.
Revan.) Killed Rancors and Rakata patrols, can summon a Force Lightning Storm.
Exar Kun). Knows a black lightning variant he taught to Kyp Durron, prefers Force Blast.

Force Blast: Exar Kun is superior.
Exar Kun.) With aid of a nexus, he destroyed a Sith wyrm and parts of a temple.
Revan.) [Nothing]

--Abilities used to aid the user--
Tutaminis & Force Deflection: Revan and Exar Kun are equals.
Revan.) Absorbed and reflected lightning that can turn Dark Council members to ash.
Exar Kun.) Absorbed and redirected Aleema's sorcery into a Force Blast.

Precognition & Force Visions: Revan is superior.
Revan.) Greater then even the Echani masters, who can predict battles months ahead, etc.
Exar Kun). Foresaw Nadd's plan, Foresaw an attack on Coruscant would fail.

Force Heal: Revan is superior.
Revan.) Healed himself for Vitiate's lightning attack.
Exar Kun.) Heals himself through Force Rage.

Force Sense: Revan and Exar Kun are equals.
Revan.) Searched across the galaxy for Meetra Surik
Exar Kun.) Searched across the galaxy for Dark-siders.

Force Rage: Exar Kun is superior.
Revan.) [Nothing]
Exar Kun.) Smashed Vodo's force imbued staff, could channel his rage into Force Blasts, Sustained his spirit for millennia.

--Abilities not used in combat--
Language Absorption: Revan is superior.
Revan.) Drew the Rakata language into his mind and implanted Basic in another Rakata.
Exar Kun.) Absorbed the Ancient Sith language via Nadd's healing and imparted understanding of basic into his warriors.

Sith Rituals: Exar Kun is superior.
Revan.) Has knowledge on a vast array of rituals that even made Darth Bane in awe, including the Thought Bomb but has yet to perform any.
Exar Kun.) Mutated a Massassi warrior, created terentateks, and built a sphere that gathered Force energies for him to absorb, absorbed thousands of Massassi and becane a spirit, created the Dark Reaper, created Leviathans.

Force Drain: Exar Kun is superior here.
Revan.) Drained Meetra Surik, Merkel, and Malachor V.
Exar Kun.) Performed a ritual to drain thousands of Massassi warriors.

Sith Sorcery: Exar Kun is the superior.
Revan.) Apparently knew more shit then a Sith academy's entire archives.
Exar Kun.) Hypnotized the Galactic Senate and manipulated the Chancellor, taught Kyp how to freeze lightsabers and render them useless.

Essence Transfer: Exar Kun is the superior.
Revan.) [Nothing]
Exar Kun.) After a mass ritual, he was able to put his essence in the temple, could offensively strip the spirit of Luke Skywalker.


So I put in the mountain of Kun feats you missed, yeh don't think Revan is winning there.

Continue the discussion.

Also, I now realize how biased I was letting Thanaton win that one, tbh.

Exar takes sabers

No idea who takes force and all out

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Also, I now realize how biased I was letting Thanaton win that one, tbh.

Eh, Legend out-argued Ant pretty damn conclusively.

just make another matchup skillz

Revan.

Neph prolly believes Thanaton > Wyyrlok, kek

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Neph prolly believes Thanaton > Wyyrlok, kek

I didn't until you tried to argue the opposite tbh.

Just stating the facts of what happened.

Your profile pic and sig are gewd, @Ant.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Just stating the facts of what happened.

>"Nephthys"
>"facts"

Originally posted by NewGuy01
Revan.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9CeC3yrcG4

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
>"Nephthys"
>"facts"

Yeah, um, ok. That is actually what happened, champ. You argued so badly that I changed my mind and went with Thanaton. You can look at the thread if you want. Legend completely destroyed you.

Uh dude, look through that thread again, LMFAO.

So yeah the next matchup?