The BattleZone! Round 1 Match 6: Revan Reborn vs. Exar Kun

I win then, since you the decider. Good. Back to my game.

I provided links to the audiobok where it clearly states that the amulet is reacting to his own power, he can control the level of destructive output, and all of Ant's quotes confirm that the source of Kun's power was Dark rage that was magnified by the amulet. Nowhere does it state anything about the temple nexus sourcing his power, and again I never denied that the temple affected his ability to control it.

Ant failed to provide a quote where it specifically states that the temple was the source. And the scan with the priest its clearly reacting to being touched by him, and in his heightened state it responded. What does that have to do with a temple nexus? It responded in the same way with Kun, and magnified his powers just like the billions of quotes says it did.

Nowhere is there any mention of a nexus, at all but of course this flies over Ant's head

Dude, you ignored my entire argument, as always. You have been beaten once again.

I didn't ignore anything You:

1. Failed to provide a the requisite proof for Kun relying on a temple nexus as the source of his power.

2. All of your quotes were just talking about Dark rage, Kun's ability to magnify the amulet, and residual temple energies.

You still haven't conjured up that quote that proves that his power wasn't his own. No one should take you seriously

I provided a scan of the amulet being amped by the temple.
The thread maker agreed that was proof. I won. You Lost.

You provided a scan showing that the amulet was responding to the priest as he was holding it. It said nothing about the temple, lol. Again cough up that quote, or just concede the point.

Concede? I already won.

There's one quibble I have, here.

Carthage, in all of the debates I've seen you comment on (which is alot, to be sure,) you almost always take into consideration the effects of a nexus. Why not now?

Because it's Exar Kun, his favorite character.

In your own mind, you failed to provide proof just like at SWF. I'm not conceding anything, because all of the evidence you provided in quotes was just about Dark rage and not the temple nexus. How can I concede to something you haven't even properly supported?

I provided proof, as always.
You ignored it, as always.
The cycle once again continued.

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
There's one quibble I have, here.

Carthage, in all of the debates I've seen you comment on (which is alot, to be sure,) you almost always take into consideration the effects of a nexus. Why not now?

I never denied that the nexus didn't have a part to play, even in the audio drama it clearly overpowered his blasts to where he couldn't control him.

Ant's position that it was the sole source, and that his rage was circumstantial is not supported by the quotes he provided. He also failed to provide any quote that supported the notion, that it was the temple that powered his blasts.

I never stated it was the sole source. Never.
In fact, I made it clear it wasn't actually.

For the sake of this match, other spectrums need to be debated, (Dueling Ability, other force powers, tactics, etc.)

Well Revan's best lightsaber feat is defeating Malak. Considering newbie Kun stalemated Ulic for the whole minute they had a fight. Not to mention schooling Vodo as a padawan and then dominating Vodo a second time through brute force... whilst keeping the senate in a Stasis field.. yeh I think Kun takes this.

Force feats: Kun was a master sorcerer rivalled only by Vitiate, it is notable that his force defenses have only been surpassed by Nadd a spirit and an ancient Jedi Master. Offensively he is nearly unstoppable.

Both of the times he was defeated as Sith was due to Wall of Light so there is that.

🙄 Lame that people uneducated on Revan post on this thread, but whatever.

whilst keeping the senate in a Stasis field

The classic "lightsabers, Force, all-out" will not occur in this duel. Revan is infamous for chaining his Force powers with his saber attacks. This unpredictability, added onto that he draws on different bits and pieces of all the forms in his fighting style, is truly why "there weren't many people able to face Revan across a battlefield and survive the encounter". Exar Kun has never fought an opponent like this. All of Exar Kun's duels he engaged in was heavily-strictly lightsaber combat, never anything more. Exar Kun's greatest advantage in combat however is not his skill, but rather instead his ever-changing double-bladed lightsaber. Revan's battle precognition will be the perfect counter-measure to such changes. And while evidence points to Exar Kun still having the greatest skill with a blade regardless, the difference is not as wide as many make it out to be. Exar Kun was only capable of stalemating Ulic Qel-Droma, and no evidence suggests he further perfected his lightsaber skills after that, but rather instead his Sith Sorcery. On the flip-side, slaughtering an army of Dark Jedi, slaying two Terentatek, and quickly outdueling an Imperial Guard is no joke at all. Exar Kun will try to win this battle quickly through his skill and power in lightsaber combat, a strategy ineffective and energy-consuming against the likes of Revan (or even Ulic Qel-Droma for that matter), especially with greater Force powers being unleashed at Kun. Revan is vastly superior to Exar Kun in Telekinesis and Force Lightning, the two most common Force powers used in combat for the Sith. Sith Alchemy and Sorcery are nearly never used in battle, and regularly require preparation of some sort anyway. The Mandalorians didn't awe Revan for being "the greatest single warrior the Republic has ever known" for nothing.
Revan wins due to superior Force abilities and strategy, as with a lightsaber defense and Battle Precognition capable of countering Exar Kun's.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
The classic "lightsabers, Force, all-out" will not occur in this duel. Revan is infamous for chaining his Force powers with his saber attacks. This unpredictability, added onto that he draws on different bits and pieces of all the forms in his fighting style, is truly why "there weren't many people able to face Revan across a battlefield and survive the encounter". Exar Kun has [b]never fought an opponent like this.[/b] [/B]

Er, Exar Kun is a Niman master. Niman being the form based around stringing force attacks into your lightsaber duels. So don't act as if Revan is going to blow his mind with that shit.

Exar Kun doesn't even know what Niman is, to be honest, despite being stated to be a master of the art.
His fighting style revolves around power lightsaber attacks, never doing any really Force attacks at all.
It's like the opposite of what Revan or the like does. Hell, it's kind of like a Darth Malak strategy. Also:

“Exar Kun and Ulic fought, but they were too evenly matched for either to gain the upper hand. Their battle might have gone on for hours but for the macabre manifestation of a host of Sith spirits, led by the shade of Marka Ragnos.”
--Star Wars: The Dark Side Sourcebook.

Only because of his towering arrogance. I believe its stated that he believed himself to be an unbeatable swordsman, which is why he exclusively engaged Ulic in that area and was amazed to find one equal to himself. And he wanted to show off against his old dueling master.

He had no hestitation with blasting Aleema, Sylvar and that wyrm.

I think that was in the Gnost-dural chronicles. And despite that, he was a no better duelist then Droma.
I just looked through his two fights with Vodo and then Droma, and yeah, no Force attacks at all, and majority are power.
And on the flip-side, none of them use Force attacks either. Aleema and the wyrm weren't even duels, bro. 😐