Originally posted by NewGuy01
About the whole speed argument, didn't Guy move fast enough to distort/warp space?
Yep.
If so, wouldn't that put him at sub-light speeds?Granted, he's arguably Naruto's fastest character, but it could be evidence that the top tiers can compete with FTL speed.
One thing I've learned is that practically no manga or comic writer gets lightspeed.
Mind you, Kishimoto doesn't use the phrase lightspeed much. I think it only shows up in the databook.
Though lots of people ascribe lightspeed to reacting to this or that, but that is usually off too, and judge more based on how characters normally fight.
Basically, if a power is called 'lightspeed' or faster, in any manga, if it's not a pseudo-teleport, assume it just means 'really fast but has no relation to our lightspeed'.
Originally posted by Q99
Mind you, Kishimoto doesn't use the phrase lightspeed much. I think it only shows up in the databook.Though lots of people ascribe lightspeed to reacting to this or that, but that is usually off too, and judge more based on how characters normally fight.
Basically, if a power is called 'lightspeed' or faster, in any manga, if it's not a pseudo-teleport, assume it just means 'really fast but has no relation to our lightspeed'.
Ppl jus like to exagerrate and dont know the difference between teleportation and physical movement
Originally posted by RaventheOnly
Technically he does not, only limited by his imagination which is limited by his psyche. He could do anything. He literally encapsulated Kenpachi into the gravity of space. Kaguya can manipulate the environment but it seemed to be limited by her own greed of chakra which she seems to be limited by in her own statements. Are you trying to imply that there is no limit to Kaguya?
Originally posted by RaventheOnlykaguya will win this
Technically he does not, only limited by his imagination which is limited by his psyche. He could do anything. He literally encapsulated Kenpachi into the gravity of space. Kaguya can manipulate the environment but it seemed to be limited by her own greed of chakra which she seems to be limited by in her own statements. Are you trying to imply that there is no limit to Kaguya?
Originally posted by yungz22
Your the one who said speed bending not me.When did gai do that how did he distort space?
Originally posted by yungz22
Speed bending?
So you DIDN'T say speed bending? Liar, lol.
Gai did NOT distort space and time, or anything, his speed was simply so great that it bent Jyuubidara's rod of will.
Originally posted by yungz22
He used the term speed bending and i asked what he meant by it (hence the question mark) how am i a liar?
No he didn't. You misunderstood what he said.
Gai DID bend time, just not the way the Avatar would(if he could).
You are a liar, because you said you didn't use the term "speed-bending", when you clearly did. lol
Originally posted by BeyonderGod
Kaguya beats everyone in one piece,toriko, and bleach.
Well... Idk, So far Ichibe Hyousei is pretty ridiculous. I think he might be able to give her a bit of a run for her money, but we still don't even know the extent of his full powers.
Aside from him though, yeah, she crushes them all.
Originally posted by RaventheOnly
Technically he does not, only limited by his imagination which is limited by his psyche. He could do anything. He literally encapsulated Kenpachi into the gravity of space. Kaguya can manipulate the environment but it seemed to be limited by her own greed of chakra which she seems to be limited by in her own statements. Are you trying to imply that there is no limit to Kaguya?
Originally posted by RaventheOnlyi think kaguya will win
Technically he does not, only limited by his imagination which is limited by his psyche. He could do anything. He literally encapsulated Kenpachi into the gravity of space. Kaguya can manipulate the environment but it seemed to be limited by her own greed of chakra which she seems to be limited by in her own statements. Are you trying to imply that there is no limit to Kaguya?
Originally posted by RaventheOnly
Technically he does not, only limited by his imagination which is limited by his psyche. He could do anything. He literally encapsulated Kenpachi into the gravity of space. Kaguya can manipulate the environment but it seemed to be limited by her own greed of chakra which she seems to be limited by in her own statements. Are you trying to imply that there is no limit to Kaguya?
Originally posted by RaventheOnlyi think kaguya will win here
Technically he does not, only limited by his imagination which is limited by his psyche. He could do anything. He literally encapsulated Kenpachi into the gravity of space. Kaguya can manipulate the environment but it seemed to be limited by her own greed of chakra which she seems to be limited by in her own statements. Are you trying to imply that there is no limit to Kaguya?
Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
Well... Idk, So far Ichibe Hyousei is pretty ridiculous. I think he might be able to give her a bit of a run for her money, but we still don't even know the extent of his full powers.Aside from him though, yeah, she crushes them all.
No. Kaguya kills Ichibe without trying.
Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
Most likely. He did punch Juha Bach 1,000 miles away though, and was already there when he stopped. That's pretty crazy strength and speed.
Actually no. He did not punch him a 1000 miles, nor did he move after Bach.
What happened was the move was suppose to push him a 1000 miles away, but Bach stopped the ability. it was neither speed or strength feat.
As for this fight, Kaguya casually solos the whole verse.
Originally posted by SquallX
Actually no. He did not punch him a 1000 miles, nor did he move after Bach.What happened was the move was suppose to push him a 1000 miles away, but Bach stopped the ability. it was neither speed or strength feat.
As for this fight, Kaguya casually solos the whole verse.
That's not true.
Ichibe specifically says, "Go back ANOTHER 1000 ri". This means he already went 1,000 ri, which is about 2,500 miles, in approximately one second. This is around 9 million mph, or 2,500 miles per second, which makes him faster than anything we've seen in Naruto, outside of teleporting or Hiraishin. Not to mention that he performed a feat of blasting Juha Bach across the equivalent of almost all of North America. That's a continent level punch, which is higher than even Gai's taijutsu.
Also, Ichibe isn't even the strongest in Bleach. And how would she deal with Aizen's shikai?