Gremmy vs Kaguya Ootsutsuki

Originally posted by BloodRain
No, based off feats. He's received his greatest boost and it delivered an island level feat. We can't assume more based on nothing, we don't know what more he has if he does. So based on the best we know about him, he's only above Madara's level.

Nowhere is it said that he created a clone in order to think about treo things at once. What is said is that he /power/ is doubled in order to preform his greatest tech. Former doesn't even make sense as it's unreasonable to think a person can't think about two things at once, as at any moment he's thinking about himself having a body (seeing as he's just a brain) while performing his feats. Need a a clone to do what Madara does.

It's not Plot, it's him. /He/ can't imagine these thiings on Ken because he is unable to picture it on such a powerhouse. So good luck cookiefying the Bunny when her power trumps beasts with blasts greater than that meteor.

Say it like it is bro.

Why would Kaguya care about broken bones?

Remember: Her body came from Madara's and is greater. Madara healed from a gigantic wound caused by 8 Gate Gai's Night Gai attack. After tanking repeated hits from Evening Elephant, which punched him literally kilometers through the ground without too much damage.

Broken bones wouldn't matter to Tsunade- ('Oh, you broke my arms and legs? Well, they're fixed now.'😉- let alone Kaguya.

Originally posted by AuraAngel
And so what? Are we to give Gremmy the nod over a much more powerful character based on what he could do, rather than what he is likely to do? Gremmy is a cocky git who spends too much time talking and never uses his power to the fullest potential.

Being faster than thought is actually pretty easy and something Naruto and Sasuke can accomplish. As can Kaguya.

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That is what a Versus is. 🙂 Potential. Jerks often are powerful to, its not like we like the character, i hate his guts; but what he can do is what we are talking about. If he did not face Kenpachi he potentially would have wiped out pretty much all of the captains. He was just unlucky enough to fight someone who is psychopathic in confidence and pain

I am just not sure. He was able to create a PERSON with its own character and strong abilities from nothing that murdered several powerful captains just to observe his enemies without them even knowing he was there. Kaguya knows everything about her enemies through black zetsu's extensive observations for millenia but still for some reason doesn't have the upper hand completely.

She just seems like a complete psychopathic moron obsessed with power and doubts her own strength over and over and I think that situation itself would make Gremmy win against her with the fear of wasting her chakra to the point she flees. He would feed on her fear trolling her wherever she teleported to.

If she didn't care about wounds why does she flee melee combat? >.>

It doesn't matter how she reacts to a fight with Naruto and Sasuke.

Both Naruto and Sasuke are more powerful than every Bleach character. Probably combined.

Originally posted by RaventheOnly

If she didn't care about wounds why does she flee melee combat? >.>

It's one of the only ways she even *can* be hurt? There's no need to give opportunities... and don't forget, the sealing jutsu that can stop her is a melee technique, it requires Naruto and Sasuke to both land a palm on her. At range, their threat is more limited.

And her opponents are far above Gremmy, so...

She just seems like a complete psychopathic moron obsessed with power and doubts her own strength over and over and I think that situation itself would make Gremmy win against her with the fear of wasting her chakra to the point she flees. He would feed on her fear trolling her wherever she teleported to.

I really haven't seen her doubt her own strength once. Conserve it, yes, doubt it is something else. I'm not sure if you're reading her right.

Kaguya is reluctant to spend *effort* against two people, each of whom are stronger than Gremmy.

Originally posted by NemeBro
It doesn't matter how she reacts to a fight with Naruto and Sasuke.

Both Naruto and Sasuke are more powerful than every Bleach character. Probably combined.

Originally posted by Based Kez
Wat

They've gotten incredibly powerful now, they really have.

A normal captain isn't particularly a threat to them at the moment. They can destroy groups of giant meteors being thrown at them no problem, and have all kinds of hax abilities.

Id say kaguya due to her ability to teleport idk i feel like that would give her a big advantage in this fight

Originally posted by Based Kez
Wat

Naruto and Sasuke have casual country level attacks and the powers of a man who created the moon.

Originally posted by Blazing Storm
He lost to Kenpachi only because its F*CKING Kenpachi

He won't simply kill himself with his own power in a battle without PIS

And? Kenpachi's feats are downplayed by rinnegan Madara's. Anything Hashirama level+ shits on him, let alone moon erasing hax queens like Kaguya.

He didn't kill himself against Kenpachi. He even blatantly stated that Kenny overpowered his imagination, which caused him to die from being as limited as he was. In all honesty, Gremmy was, without a doubt, the most poorly executed god-tier in any series I've seen/read thus far. He couldn't imagine something with mountain+ strength, so he died because he knew it was stronger than him and his imagination.

Yeah, I'm depressed this is still being argued.

Kakashi stomps.

Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
And? Kenpachi's feats are downplayed by rinnegan Madara's. Anything Hashirama level+ shits on him, let alone moon erasing hax queens like Kaguya.

He didn't kill himself against Kenpachi. He even blatantly stated that Kenny overpowered his imagination, which caused him to die from being as limited as he was. In all honesty, Gremmy was, without a doubt, the most poorly executed god-tier in any series I've seen/read thus far. He couldn't imagine something with mountain+ strength, so he died because he knew it was stronger than him and his imagination.

To be fair, while he felt he was incredibly strong, it's not like he's the boss, just supposedly the best of their captain-equivalents.

Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
And? Kenpachi's feats are downplayed by rinnegan Madara's. Anything Hashirama level+ shits on him, let alone moon erasing hax queens like Kaguya.

He didn't kill himself against Kenpachi. He even blatantly stated that Kenny overpowered his imagination, which caused him to die from being as limited as he was. In all honesty, Gremmy was, without a doubt, the most poorly executed god-tier in any series I've seen/read thus far. He couldn't imagine something with mountain+ strength, so he died because he knew it was stronger than him and his imagination.

http://dailyanimeart.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/madara-summons-a-second-large-rock-onoki-e1319732538322.png

Madara's meteor = 1 mile wide
Gremmy's meteor = large city (25 miles) - small country sized (nearly 100 miles)

Gremmy's meteor was also faster as it was on fire while Madara's wasn't

And ofcourse Gremmy was killed by his own imagination. Don't tell me Kenpachi killed him now.
His body being able to stand his power was the only thing he couldnt imagine

So its Gremmy's stupidity that led to his death. This kind of PIS/CIS is not allowed here

Originally posted by Blazing Storm
Madara's meteors are only a few times taller than those trees, as compared to gremmy's which was half the size of Seireitei.

http://dailyanimeart.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/madara-summons-a-second-large-rock-onoki-e1319732538322.png

Madara's meteor = 1 mile wide
Gremmy's meteor = large city (25 miles) - small country sized (nearly 100 miles)

Gremmy's meteor was also faster as it was on fire while Madara's wasn't

And ofcourse Gremmy was killed by his own imagination. Don't tell me Kenpachi killed him now.
His body being able to stand his power was the only thing he couldnt imagine

So its Gremmy's stupidity that led to his death. This kind of PIS/CIS is not allowed here

Exactly. Gremmy's power killed himself because he imagined what he feared O.o

Originally posted by NemeBro
No he wasn't, go kill yourself.

Originally posted by Blazing Storm
Madara's meteors are only a few times taller than those trees, as compared to gremmy's which was half the size of Seireitei.

http://dailyanimeart.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/madara-summons-a-second-large-rock-onoki-e1319732538322.png

Madara's meteor = 1 mile wide
Gremmy's meteor = large city (25 miles) - small country sized (nearly 100 miles)

Gremmy's meteor was also faster as it was on fire while Madara's wasn't

And ofcourse Gremmy was killed by his own imagination. Don't tell me Kenpachi killed him now.
His body being able to stand his power was the only thing he couldnt imagine

So its Gremmy's stupidity that led to his death. This kind of PIS/CIS is not allowed here

How stupid are you? You're aware that those ninja were BLOCKADES away, right? That meteor had SUCH a large AOE, that trees THAT far away were blown away. Why do you think they were shaken all the way in the cloud village, COUNTRIES away? You're using one example of retarded pixel scaling to base your claim. You're relying on the fact that I might not realize that you pulled that scan MASSIVELY out of context, because you want to make shit up in a sad attempt to lie your way into winning this argument. You're stupid.

What about this scan? What about the meteor DWARFED the wind desert, which took three days of ninja's running to cross?

And this one? Where the meteor is clearly dwarfing forests, mountain ranges, and entire valleys at the same time?

Yeah, totally 1 mile.

In fact, Gremmy's is closer to that than 100. The senkaimon is not much taller than Sokyoku hill. A HILL. All around, Seireitei is around small town sized. Most likely not much larger than Karakura town. Even Kenpachi was comparable in size to it.

Not on fire... Have you even read Naruto?

So what are you even arguing here? Gremmy couldn't imagine a physicality capable of Kenny's town level strength. That means his imaginative power is limited to town+ level. Simple.

You arguing that he somehow didn't have limits at all, and is an omnipotent god, when he was overpowered by a town level buster, proves only that you sniff Jenkem before visiting this site.

Not to mention he was exhausted after making the two meteors.

All these factors together, including the fact that he's dead, prove him to be town level. No more, no less.

He's weak. Jiraiya would stomp him.

Originally posted by Blazing Storm
So its Gremmy's stupidity that led to his death. This kind of PIS/CIS is not allowed here

If we remove all CIS then why wouldn't Kaguya simply blitz him and stab him before he can react?

Originally posted by AuraAngel
If we remove all CIS then why wouldn't Kaguya simply blitz him and stab him before he can react?

Nah, Gremmy's an omnipotent god from DC and can instantly react timelessly and blow up the multiverse with a fart.

Nah though, seriously, Jiraiya stomps Gremmy.

The Meteors speed is what he is arguing. It was moving at impact damage speed that would result in the destruction of everything in the soul society. Even Gremmy's allies were worried about the destruction. The meteors you guys are talking about just plop out slow enough that they can touch it and hold it up like its just a big heavy rock.

If you think Kenpachi is a town level destructive force you have no clue about Bleach at all. There is not really a point to arguing with people who don't even understand the source material being addressed.

If she could do that why didn't she eliminate Kakashi and Sakura immediately. Obviously they are weaker and not part of what she wants to absorb but the problem is SHE CAN'T because she sucks at melee and is afraid to expose herself..... He got nearly cut in half and could instantly heal himself if he let her even touch him which she wouldn't because she would flee because he would take too much energy to attempt to defeat. 😐

If Gremmy should so casually dismiss a being of greater power than him then why did he struggle with Kenpachi at all? Kaguya vastly outpowers Kenpachi. Frankly Gremmy would be like Sakura and Kakashi in front of Kaguya.