Darth Vader and Darth Malgus vs Darth Sidious

Started by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ5 pages

He could.....if Malgus wasn't at his side. :/

Malgus wouldn't be able to see him move.

Can you see my finger move? You know which one.

Are you forgetting the Maul and Savage fight?

See how carelessly he obliterated them?

He wasn't even trying for the most of that fight, which is why we can use it as an example. All he'd need to do would be separate Vader and Malgus, and due to the way both of these Juggernauts fight..... That shouldn't be an issue,

Originally posted by Nephthys
Can you see my finger move? You know which one.

The one you stuffed through your good eye to ignore the truth I type?

Fact dealt cretin.

His majesty moves faster than high tier Jedi masters can perceive, and was described as 'fading from reality' by Anakin who is above Malgus in force power/feats.

Anakin never saw him fight, you spanner.

Originally posted by Selenial
Are you forgetting the Maul and Savage fight?

See how carelessly he obliterated them?

He wasn't even trying for the most of that fight, which is why we can use it as an example. All he'd need to do would be separate Vader and Malgus, and due to the way both of these Juggernauts fight..... That shouldn't be an issue,

Malgus and Vader >>> Maul and Savage.

Not according to the ROTS novel, I could care less whether or not you agree.

Anakin blinked and rubbed his eyes again. Maybe he was still a bit flash-blind—the Korun Master seemed to be fading in and out of existence, half swallowed by a thickening black haze in which danced a meter-long bar of sunfire. Mace pressed back the darkness with a relentless straight-ahead march; his own blade, that distinctive amethyst blaze that had been the final sight of so many evil beings across the galaxy, made a haze of its own: an oblate sphere of purple fire within which there seemed to be dozens of swords slashing in all directions at once.
The shadow he fought, that blur of speed—could that be Palpatine?

The movie >>>>> the novel. I don't give a flying fetish what that dude wrote after reading an early script, the movie only has Anakin arrive after Mace has won. He never saw a second of the fight.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Malgus >>> Savage.

Fixed.

and I never denied that.

Even if that were true Palpatine blitzed four Masters all who are on the same tier/not very far off as Malgus in terms of speed. Malgus's speed feats i,e forming a shield out of his saber, and moving his saber fast enough to form a red blur. Saesee Tiin has replicated those same feats, and look how well he did.

Originally posted by Nephthys
The movie >>>>> the novel. I don't give a flying fetish what that dude wrote after reading an early script, the movie only has Anakin arrive after Mace has won. He never saw a second of the fight.

This is all making insanely good sense to me.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
This is all making insanely good sense to me.

Its good that Neph is ignoring feats? Would it meet your approval if Palpatine was deflecting rain drops in his backyard?

Cry moar carthage. It's all you can do, cuz you certainly can't rebut my point. Why don't you just promise to respond later and never get around to it. Again.

Originally posted by Selenial
Fixed.

and I never denied that.

Maul can compete with Vader in sabers, but in terms of TK and the Force, Vader is well above Maul in my estimation. He has some of the best TK feats of anyone who isn't throwing capital ships around. He overloaded a lightsaber with his power. He shook a 6+ story building just by getting pissed off. Tossed or demolished large machines, droids and ships. Shattered a substance scientists thought unbreakable. And lots of others I've forgotten.

So I just can't see him getting dismissed like Maul was by Sidious. But that's just my opinion.

Carthage, stop derailing threads.

When has Malgus "shattered" a substance scientists thought was unbreakable?

Originally posted by Nephthys
Cry moar carthage. It's all you can do, cuz you certainly can't rebut my point. Why don't you promise to respond later and never get around to it. Again.

So I just can't see him getting dismissed like Maul was by Sidious. But that's just my opinion.

I can't respond to something your ignoring? There is nothing that states that the novelization is an inferior order of cannon as its just adding detail to the same event. And like I said even if it was true, Malgus is still on the same speed tier as the Jedi masters that Palpatine blitzed. You haven't refuted my point, you ignored a feat and aren't bringing up anything to support Malgus even being able to track his movements.

Originally posted by carthage
When has Malgus "shattered" a substance scientists thought was unbreakable?

It was Vader, and iirc it was in "Death Star".

Originally posted by carthage
I can't respond to something your ignoring? There is nothing that states that the novelization is an inferior order of cannon as its just adding detail to the same event.

No, it's outright contradicting the movie and on this forum and in the rules of canon, the movies are absolute. This is one of the most basic aspects of the EU:

"When it comes to absolute canon, the real story of Star Wars, you must turn to the films themselves—and only the films. Even novelizations are interpretations of the film, and while they are largely true to George Lucas' vision (he works quite closely with the novel authors), the method in which they are written does allow for some minor differences."

Sidious.

Originally posted by Nephthys
No, it's outright contradicting the movie and on this forum and in the rules of canon, the movies are absolute. This is one of the most basic aspects of the EU:

"When it comes to absolute canon, the real story of Star Wars, you must turn to the films themselves—and only the films. Even novelizations are interpretations of the film, and while they are largely true to George Lucas' vision (he works quite closely with the novel authors), the method in which they are written does allow for some minor differences."

Like I said even if that was true, this doesn't prove Malgus can trace Sidious's movements. He is roughly as fast as the Jedi that died, try again.