Darth Vader and Darth Malgus vs Darth Sidious

Started by Nephthys5 pages
Originally posted by carthage
Like I said even if that was true, this doesn't prove Malgus can trace Sidious's movements. He is roughly as fast as the Jedi that died, try again.

I don't care about that, nor did I ever disagree with that assessment. I win. Again.

Originally posted by Nephthys
I don't care about that, nor did I ever disagree with that assessment. I win. Again.

The quote doesn't say its non cannon, tated toward the end it allowed for 'minor differences'. Sorry but you can't wish away a feat just because you don't like it.

Again prove Malgus can even track his movements if Anakin cant. You can't ignore feats just to jack off a TOR character.

Wow, did you just say that it doesn't say the film version is true?

No. Neph is ignoring the Novelization and lowballing it.

I caught that edit, bro. Do better.

Originally posted by carthage

Nope, it says that the movies are the absolute canon and that only the movies are absolute canon. It then says that even the novelisations are merely interpretations of the events of the movies with differences, and thus are not absolute canon. The Movies are G-canon, the novels are not. Anakin was never in the room while the fight occurred. He never saw Sidious move other than scurry backwards like a prison b*tch who dropped the soap.

Huh... I guess we know what Carthage looks like. Looks a bit older than I expected.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Nope, it says that the movies are the absolute canon and that only the movies are absolute canon. It then says that even the novelisations are merely interpretations with differences, and thus are not absolute canon. The Movies are G-canon, the novels are not.

Posting memes doesn't help the fact you're a liar and you're blatantly lowballing and ignoring feats dooder

...interpretations of the film, and while they are largely true to George Lucas' vision (he works quite closely with the novel authors), the method in which they are written does allow for some minor difference

Please tell me where in the second half of the quote you posted does it explicitly say that events in the novel are disavowed when its simply adding detail to the movie?

Originally posted by Emperordmb
Huh... I guess we know what Carthage looks like. Looks a bit older than I expected.

Lmao, don't you mean younger?

Emperor has been hitting the wine bottle too much

Originally posted by carthage
Posting memes doesn't help the fact you're a liar and you're blatantly lowballing and ignoring feats dooder

OMFG You do this shit all the time.

Originally posted by carthage
Please tell me where in the second half of the quote you posted does it explicitly say that events in the novel are disavowed when its simply adding detail to the movie?

There's a large difference between adding detail and completely contradicting.

Originally posted by carthage
Posting memes doesn't help the fact you're a liar and you're blatantly lowballing and ignoring feats dooder

Please tell me where in the second half of the quote you posted does it explicitly say that events in the novel are disavowed when its simply adding detail to the movie?

Right here, sweetie:

"When it comes to absolute canon, the real story of Star Wars, you must turn to the films themselves—and only the films. Even novelizations are interpretations of the film, and while they are largely true to George Lucas' vision (he works quite closely with the novel authors), the method in which they are written does allow for some minor differences."

Read the actual words carthage: Only the films are absolute canon. Even the novels are interpretations and while they are largely true to Lucas' vision, they have differences from his vision. Understand?

Oh, and don't forget the rules of this forum too:

"2. As far as the EU section is concerned, the films are the most important canon."

The film is contradicted by the book. The book is therefore invalid in it's depiction and the film is absolute. Anakin never saw the fight.

I win, for infinity and beyond.

You win nothing, the novels are supplementary and are not invalidated by any quote as Lucas still accepts the novelization as cannon. They're still interpretations, and your own opinion doesn't devalue a cannon feat. Try again.

You're arbitrarily choosing a source, and lying/lowballing like you always do. You can't win something you're ignoring just because its supplementary, its still G cannon

Movies>Novels is pretty damn accepted.

And there is a substantial difference between supplementary and contradictory.

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Except nothing in the movie would even be remotely harmed by Anakin seeing the fight as the quote said it allows for 'minor details'. Lol @ Neph getting desperate to disprove a feat by being selective with sources.

It's not a minor detail. The fight is clearly over before Anakin even walks through the door. That's a pretty big detail, actually.

Again, Neph has proven that the movies take absolute precedence in both the Canon hierarchy and as this forum.

The fact that you choose to ignore that makes you more desperate and selective than Neph.

How does it alter the course of events at all? Windu is still amped, Sidious still blitzes the Jedi masters, and Vader still falls- and the quote even said as long as the novelizations don't deviate from the plot they're still G cannon. Nothing Neph has contradicts that, as that's what it says in the quote. He's ignoring a feat just so Malgus doesn't get oneshot.

Originally posted by carthage
You win nothing, the novels are supplementary and are not invalidated by any quote as Lucas still accepts the novelization as cannon. They're still interpretations, and your own opinion doesn't devalue a cannon feat. Try again.

You're arbitrarily choosing a source, and lying/lowballing like you always do. You can't win something you're ignoring just because its supplementary

They are supplementary, yes. They supplement the work as long as they do not contradict it. Which the RotS book does in this case. The movies are still the main, absolute texts. The novels exist to fill in the gaps, not rewrite the script.

It's not arbitrary. The novel directly contradicts the movie by putting Anakin in the room to observe the fight when he did not in the main source. I'm not ignoring anything, I'm pointing out the facts. You're the one trying to ignore the contradiction to sneak in an invalid feat.

And yes, I can win. Because I've got the forum rules on my side. Not mere opinion. Face it, Films>Books.