Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Which was prior to Sentry's powerup and in the midst of a slew of bad showings for him.
Lol at lowballing. How in the shit is it lowballing if I don't think he's going to evaporate PC Superman? Did he evaporate abother trans level being that I'm not aware of? I'm not saying the character hasn't done shit either, I've repeatedly and repeatedly said his am hasn't done shit. My entire point is about his am. Everything revolves around his am.
Even with it, he's shown nothing battle wise above what Savage Hulk is capable of. Or is comparing him to the ****ing Hulk lowballing too?No, you outright thought I was complaining about gauntlet placement. I wasn't. I was saying that BM hasn't done anything above what Hulk has shown. And if Hulk can't do it neither should BM.
But the issue isn't pain. If you're putting BM's am on AM's am level then PC Superman gets holes punched through him. Not based on anything BM has done mind you but power set.
Because BM hasn't done shit with it and you're comparing him to the most devastating event in DC history. Which is my issue there. Not to mention that it opens the door for BM to beat pretty much anyone in DC based on zero feats.
You keep saying vulnerability like it's some sort of weakness. It wasn't a weakness, it was because it ****ing tore through anything. It was an overwhelming power that destroyed an infinite amount of universes. Are you going to tell me that either King Hyperion is more durable than the entirety of DC or that King Hyperion and "all Marvel" characters have some secret X gene to defend against Anti Matter? Even though AM was destroying Red Skull with the Cube and, Galactus used it to ruin the Director of Galador's life. Weakened Thanos was disintegrated by a bomb. Etc.
And you see your problem is that BM has no God dammed feats with it. And it isn't like he hasn't hit people with it. It's extrapolating purely from everyone else but his own feats. What has he himself done with it to make you think he could hurt Superman? What has he done? Why should I extend other people who's am has devastating consequences over to BM who has pretty much used it as a blast? One ****ing feat is all that's needed here. One feat.
But dancing around the subject isn't proving dick. His AM is the literal weakest AM ever shown in comics. It goes against everything we were taught by our great comic ancestors. And you think we should use it at "DC" level just because of its name?
Which is again what I mean when I say his AM ain't shit. It'd be like him having entropy powers but everyone he hits takes it like a champ. It flies in the ****ing face of everything we know to a point that it should be considered a special case.
When did I say that he was going to evaporate PC Superman when I said that he would light him up? You're one to talk, do you recall how you rated this gauntlet? When did Ironfist ever show the power that you seemingly gave him in this thread? i said that Adam would light him up. Maybe you don't understand what that means, but when i said it, I meant that he would be knocked for a loop, at the very least. When at that point did you get evaporate? I'm not understanding why you are comparing the Hulk to Blue Marvel, when they do not have the same power set? i never said that he hits harder than the hulk, but that he possesses a power that PC Superman was vulnerable to. Again do you have trouble understanding this?
No I was guessing that you were complaining about the gauntlet, because the hulk was at a lower peg than the Blue Marvel. If this was not what was on you mind so be it, who cares anyways. I never placed BM on AM's level either. You were the one that began comparing the two. I only kept saying that if PC Superman was vulnerable to antimatter that Blue Marvel should be able to light him up. Should I explain what light him up means again?
No again. What I said was that PC anything was stated to be highly vulnerable to antimatter. Don't tell me that i said things that I didn't. And since when was PC Superman greater than anyone, and everyone in DC? Did I ever say any of that? You better go back and look at the OP, because what I understood, was PC Superman was going to be standing there, and taking a fully powered hit from the people in the gauntlet while bracing. Check you own shit out before going thought mines. Look at what you said about number 4. Ridiculous!
I keep saying vulnerability because it was stated that antimatter could affect him. Not like a weakness like Kryptonite. Stop playing word games, I know fully what the words mean, which is why i chose vulnerability. Operator just made it clear that antimatter did not in fact tear through any and everything. Check the scan.
Originally posted by operator616
Anti-matter is portrayed in varying power levels throughout comics (much like entropy). Here is PC Superman surviving planet-busting anti-matter missile point blank in Superman #205 (the reason is attributed to Superman having a "super matter body"😉http://i.imgur.com/WL7OmKY.jpg
Superboy did the same in Superboy #244.
Yet, we know that Superman can't survive Anti Monitor's anti-matter waves. Because he was literally destroying whole universes with them.
If he has no feats, then Koing the Sentry must have been nothing Despite Doom being humbled by him in seconds. King Hyperion wasn't a feat? Nearly breaking the moon in two with a medal isn't a feat either I guess?
This like I said before has nothing to do with striking power, or strength, but as I keep stating, on power set. BM's power derives from antimatter, and PC Superman was vulnerable to it. Meaning it could hurt him. What you said about BM was that he would basically do nothing to PC Superman. I disagree.
