ISIS Terrorists Behead American Journalist

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/08/19/james-foley-executed-isis_n_5692695.html

James Foley, an American journalist who went missing in Syria more than a year ago, has reportedly been killed by the Islamic State, a militant group formerly known as ISIS.

A YouTube video and photos purportedly of Foley emerged on Tuesday. The video -- entitled "A Message to #America (from the #IslamicState)" -- identified a man on his knees as "James Wright Foley," and showed his beheading.

Foley was in Syria covering the country's civil war when he went missing in November 2012. A May 2013 report from the Columbia Journalism Review said that he was likely being held near Damascus.

This rings horrifically similar to the brutal killing of Daniel Pearl by Khalid Sheikh Mohammed in Pakistan 12 years ago, and comes shortly after the horrific mass genocide of the men of over 175 families in Kocho, Iraq (and kidnapping their women and children under 12). How should the US respond to this situation? How does this compare to prior jihadist terrorist actions? What geopolitical implications will this have?

Originally posted by Lestov16
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/08/19/james-foley-executed-isis_n_5692695.html

This rings horrifically similar to the brutal killing of Daniel Pearl by Khalid Sheikh Mohammed in Pakistan 12 years ago, and comes shortly after the horrific mass genocide of the men of over 175 families in Kocho, Iraq (and kidnapping their women and children under 10). How should the US respond to this situation? How does this compare to prior jihadist terrorist actions? What geopolitical implications will this have?

Why should the US do anything? Of course I'm playing devils abdicate, but where are the good Islamic people? Why are they not crying out against this?

If the US does anything we will just be hates for it. It is a no win situation.

Unfortunately nothing will happen , the pres has not even bothered to comment and if he does it will be his "we cannot allow this" rhetoric followed by zero action.

We shouldn't do anything.

Or rather, if we do do something, this incident should have zero influence on that decision. Random American journalist who volunteered to wander around a warzone getting killed isn't worth going to war over.

Originally posted by Tzeentch
We shouldn't do anything.

Or rather, if we do do something, this incident should have zero influence on that decision. Random American journalist who volunteered to wander around a warzone getting killed isn't worth going to war over.

I happen to agree with this statement, he should no business going into Syria. No matter what flag you choose to take, you also accept the risk of being in a bad part of town.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
where are the good Islamic people? Why are they not crying out against this?

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/deaconsbench/2014/08/the-muslims-who-are-condemning-isis/

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/06/27/stunning-pictures-of-thousands-of-british-muslims-gathring-to-denounce-isis-and-hear-messages-of-peace-_n_5538169.html

http://www.cair.com/press-center/press-releases/12551-cair-condemns-isis-violence-and-rejects-calls-to-join-extremists-fighting-abroad.html

Originally posted by Bardock42
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/deaconsbench/2014/08/the-muslims-who-are-condemning-isis/

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/06/27/stunning-pictures-of-thousands-of-british-muslims-gathring-to-denounce-isis-and-hear-messages-of-peace-_n_5538169.html

http://www.cair.com/press-center/press-releases/12551-cair-condemns-isis-violence-and-rejects-calls-to-join-extremists-fighting-abroad.html

Where are the rest of them!?

Originally posted by Bardock42
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/deaconsbench/2014/08/the-muslims-who-are-condemning-isis/

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/06/27/stunning-pictures-of-thousands-of-british-muslims-gathring-to-denounce-isis-and-hear-messages-of-peace-_n_5538169.html

http://www.cair.com/press-center/press-releases/12551-cair-condemns-isis-violence-and-rejects-calls-to-join-extremists-fighting-abroad.html

Thanks. Now they need to go take care of Isis.

I don't feel like it is any more their responsibility than say mine or yours, though.

Originally posted by Bardock42
I don't feel like it is any more their responsibility than say mine or yours, though.

If Catholics were rampaging through Europe, killing everyone, I think the Christian nations of the world should stop them.

I don't see Saudi Arabia, Iran or any other Islamic nations doing shit.

I think the reason is that they are on Isis's side, and want them to win. Am I wrong?

I also think America wants them to win. Once Isis becomes a real nation, we can just nuke all of their cities and win the war.

Now this isn't what I want, and I am being a bit cynical, but it makes sense to a small degree.

Well, I can't speak for Saudi Arabia or Iran, but I am talking about for peaceful, western Muslims, that have no allegiance with ISIS or terrorism whatsoever and that condemn it just as much as you and I. I don't think they have any special responsibility solely because their Religion is in broad terms based on some similar history.

Governments have their own reasons, often contradictory ones within their own ranks, and global politics is a complicated and confusing thing, with ramifications often not clear (imo not even to the highest people in charge), so I am sure some people want ISIS to create their own state for whatever reasons, but we shouldn't paint all muslims with one brush, many of them, probably most in Europe and America, have no connection to or sympathy for Islamic terrorism whatsoever.

If ISIS were to attack Iran, I'm fairly certain Iran would attack them back, as an example.

I doubt the US gov wants Iraq under the control of a radical terrorist group. But who knows in the end.

We should continue doing what we're doing now - bombing them and acting as support for the local forces who are fighting against them. No need to engage in full scale warfare with these creatures.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
If Catholics were rampaging through Europe, killing everyone, I think the Christian nations of the world should stop them.

It isn't a Muslim thing, it's a matter of regional and global security. Countries like SA, Jordan, Iran, and Turkey should do all they can to combat ISIS because ISIS is a direct threat to them and to the region, not because they're 'Muslim' nations and they have to clean up their 'own' messes.

Originally posted by BackFire
We should continue doing what we're doing now - bombing them and acting as support for the local forces who are fighting against them. No need to engage in full scale warfare with these creatures.

Agreed, or send in Delta or Seals for quick missions.

What I don't get is why they have not bombed the training camps yet, and where they are getting the people and resources to continue after devastating loses.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Why would 'Christian' nations have a special obligation to deal with them?...

It was a comparison. You are taking what I said out of context. But you always do that.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
It was a comparison. You are taking what I said out of context. But you always do that.

True or not: you believe Muslim nations have a special obligation to deal with Muslim terrorism because they're Muslim? If this isn't what you're saying, then your hypothetical comparison is meaningless.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
...
True or not: you believe Muslim nations have a special obligation to deal with Muslim terrorism because they're Muslim? If this isn't what you're saying, then your hypothetical comparison is meaningless.

They should excommunicate them or whatever Muslims do. If a Buddhist goes around killing people in the name of Buddhism, every Buddhist organization in the world should excommunicate him. The only people who can take their religious angle away is other Muslims. No one else can do that. So, true it is all of the Muslim nations in the world that have a special obligation to deal with Muslim terrorism because they're Muslim.

Just nuke the bastards.

Originally posted by Tattoos N Scars
Just nuke the bastards.

You got to get them all together in one place first. 😉