Originally posted by The_TempestI just love it when you try to snark and make a point at the same time. You remind me of me, except I'm right and you're not.
He's not a Sith.
The codex says otherwise.
No one calls him a Sith,Except for that codex thing I mentioned.
watch?v=5q9hGf0PBKc
And the chick at 8:07.
The entire point of the EEoZ is that he doesn't want to be a Sith anymore, also in that codex you just pretend to read.Dude is referred to as Sith and religiously used Sith teachings, techniques, and resources. His present indifference is irrelevant. Nihilus was described similarly and was still called a Sith Lord in all relevant material.
I thought your embrace of #swtor was a farce, but your LeGenD impression is on point. 👆
Originally posted by FreshestSlice
No it doesn't. It calls him an "ancient Sith Entity"
> Says Valkorion isn't called Sith
> Quotes a source that calls him Sith
In light of your newfound struggles with the English language, I'd like to be a good samaritan and help you out: Sith is the same word as Sith.
This should help. I have faith in you, buddy!
Originally posted by FreshestSlice
and then goes on to talk about he no longer wants to be Sith. He says Marr is trapped by ancient dogma, and specifically tries to convince the Outlander that the Republic and the Sith Empire are both lost causes for their beliefs. Being Sith is a belief. More importantly, Valkorion was never a part of the Sith Empire to begin with.
Me
Dude is referred to as Sith and religiously used Sith teachings, techniques, and resources. His present indifference is irrelevant. Nihilus was described similarly and was still called a Sith Lord in all relevant material.
Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Yeah, and "chick at 8:07," also called him Emperor. Are you trying to imply that Vitaite is also the Emperor of the Sith Empire still, disregarding all statements to the contrary? He's no longer a part of the power structure, and the Sith have rejected him, including "chick at 8:07." He no longer follows their belief system and no longer adheres to the Sith way. He's not a Sith. Deal with it.
Me
Nah, the Codex entries Ant dutifully provided still call him Sith. The characters still address him as Sith. He employed Sith practices, Sith techniques, Sith resources. The fact that he doesn't have any personal allegiance to the Sith order or its empire is pretty irrelevant. Nihilus is described in similar terms and... wouldn't you believe it, still referred to as a Sith Lord in all relevant material.
Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Did you even watch the video you just quoted or the codex that specifically says: "an idealistic playground where he can shed his past and experience a new life unburdened by archaic Sith teachings," you know word for word what you claimed he follows, or did you see the threat of his Glorious Imperial Majesty and immediately panicked that BioWare would have the gall to find loopholes out of an arbitrary power hierarchy.
To recap: Valkorion is called Sith by the codex; the game characters identify him as Sith; and we have precedent of characters who give two shits about Sith philosophy and are still called Sith regardless.
You think none of that matters because of feelings? Opinions? Preferences? I couldn't quite sift through the avalanche of impotent whining to determine exactly what, so maybe I should just ask if you have something to bring to the table that is a bit more official than your clumsy, errant interpretations?
Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Unlike LeGenD, I see things clearly. I do not support Valkorion because he is from TOR. I don't even like him, as he murdered Marr. I support him because he has proven himself worthy of it. Sidious has not.
My son, I couldn't care less if you prefer Valk to Sheev. Sure, it makes you a no good dirty heretic, but in His boundless grace, His Imperial Majesty gifts everyone with free will. You are free to make the wrong choice.
But personally I'd rather you defend your bad choices with something more substantial than "no u" and tears of frustration. Which is pretty much all you've presented here.
Though again, major props for that LeGenD impression. 👆
If the time comes that you have something worth my attention, you should let me know. 'Til then, allow me to leave you not simply with Hooked-On-Phonics, but also with a reminder of the path to Enlightenment and Absolution.
Just look at that face.
Originally posted by Sinious
You're doing a s****y job defending Sheev, Tempest. Freshest kicking yo ass. You must realize that you shouldn't rely on stupid quotes and defend Sidious with his own showings. 👆
I am well pleased with the progress of your transformation, my child. You have come a long way. excellent
Originally posted by Trocity
Not sure why people have Sidious above Luke tbh
Because he's a lightsider and can't do Force Storms, LAWL.
That aside, Luke has the more powerful: telepathy, telekinesis greater defensive Force Powers, greater reserves and raw power as a whole. So, yeah, I'm not seeing how Palpatine is above Luke. He can settle for being the second best behind him, though. 👆
Originally posted by Deronn_solo
Because he's a lightsider and can't do Force Storms, LAWL.That aside, Luke has the more powerful: telepathy, telekinesis greater defensive Force Powers, greater reserves and raw power as a whole. So, yeah, I'm not seeing how Palpatine is above Luke. He can settle for being the second best behind him, though. 👆
Lightsiders can do Force Storms. In fact, the Jedi Order knew how to do that shit at least a thousand years before Sidious. It's mentioned that they'd recently banned its use in The Jedi Path, which has written shortly after Bane's era.