Top 10 Sith/Jedi

Started by The_Tempest37 pages
Originally posted by Nephthys
Lightsiders can do Force Storms. In fact, the Jedi Order knew how to do that shit at least a thousand years before Sidious. It's mentioned that they'd recently banned its use in The Jedi Path, which has written shortly after Bane's era.

I recall TCSWE mentioning multiple lightsiders could create them. And Luke was worried in the JAT that his students would accidentally set one off on Yavin 4.

On Tython, anyone too strong in one side could set off a storm.

And of course, Nomi channeling the power of the order accidental set off a global firestorm on Yavin 4.

Did this happen? Or was this one of Kulvax's quotes?

Originally posted by Emperordmb
Did this happen? Or was this one of Kulvax's quotes?

LOL

It did happen. It was caused by the Wall of Light the Order used on Kun.

Originally posted by The_Tempest
> Says Valkorion isn't called Sith
> Quotes a source that calls him Sith

Except it doesn't. You're completely ignoring the rest of it, and Valkorion himself for God's sack.

In light of your newfound struggles with the English language, I'd like to be a good samaritan and help you out: Sith is the same word as Sith.

This should help. I have faith in you, buddy!


And since you did me the favor, let me give you a lesson in the word called "context."

con·text
ˈkäntekst/
noun
the circumstances that form the setting for an event, statement, or idea, and in terms of which it can be fully understood and assessed.

So in this "context," hope you're still with me, calling Valkorion a "Sith Entity" describes his origin. Given that he is not only not a member of the Sith Order. Not a part of the Sith government. Not affiliated with the galaxy at a large, and completely rejected by his people, any other "context," there's that word again, would be "retarded."


To recap: Valkorion is called Sith by the codex; the game characters identify him as Sith; and we have precedent of characters who give two shits about Sith philosophy and are still called Sith regardless.

To recap, Valkorion has never been a part of the Empire. Ever. Vitiate is thought to be in control of him, and not only are you trying to claim that someone who is not a part of the Empire is in fact a part of the Empire, because one cannot be Sith without actually being you know, a member of the Sith Order, but that the very people who call him a their former Emperor, as the character you think is speaking in your favor is Nox and she's already condemned Vitiate several times before this, think he is their emperor, all for the sole reason of trying to establish EU supremacy, even though the EU itself is the only source of this supremacy outside of canon.

You think none of that matters because of feelings? Opinions? Preferences? I couldn't quite sift through the avalanche of impotent whining to determine exactly what, so maybe I should just ask if you have something to bring to the table that is a bit more official than your clumsy, errant interpretations?

Are you legit retarded? Especially since your entire argument is based solely on your opinion. It's a fact that Valkorion is not a part of the Sith. It's a fact that Valkorion does not practice Sith doctrine. And it's a fact that Valkorion has shown consistently impressive displays of power that are actually combat applicable.

My son, I couldn't care less if you prefer Valk to Sheev. Sure, it makes you a no good dirty heretic, but in His boundless grace, His Imperial Majesty gifts everyone with free will. You are free to make the wrong choice.

But personally I'd rather you defend your bad choices with something more substantial than "no u" and tears of frustration. Which is pretty much all you've presented here.


The irony being that this is the basis of everything you've said in the past year.

Though again, major props for that LeGenD impression. 👆

If the time comes that you have something worth my attention, you should let me know. 'Til then, allow me to leave you not simply with Hooked-On-Phonics, but also with a reminder of the path to Enlightenment and Absolution.

Just look at that face.


As fun as this ad hominem-ing must have been for you, I expected a little more than Palpatine putting on a paedo face to be the only thing substantial in what you said.

You seem upset.

Far be it from me to question your attested expertise in all things paedo, but the Emperor's expression is clearly one of sincere warmth and patience.

Originally posted by AncientPower
Jedi:

1.Luke.
2.Yoda.
3.Revan Reborn.
4.Kyp Durron.
5.Anakin Skywalker.
6.Hero of Tython.
7.Barsen'thor III.
8.Starkiller.
9.Shaak Ti.
10.Meetra Surik.

Sith:

1.Valkorion.
2.Sidious.
3.Exar Kun.
4.Darth Caedus.
5.Revan the Resurrected.
6.Krayt Reborn.
7.Plagueis.
8.Malgus.
9.Nox.
10.Vader.

Overall:

1.Valkorion.
2.Sidious.
3.Luke.
4.Yoda.
5.Exar Kun.
6.Darth Caedus.
7.Revan Reborn.
8.Krayt Reborn.
9.Kyp Durron.
10.Darth Plagueis.

Pretty major disagreements here. Like Nox > Vader (among others), Exar Kun at #3 Sith, and Shaak Ti being top 10.

Originally posted by The_Tempest
You seem upset.

Far be it from me to question your attested expertise in all things paedo, but the Emperor's expression is clearly one of sincere warmth and patience.


I'm sure he statrapes oh so tenderly.

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ

Jed'aii

1. Grandmaster Luke Skywalker
2. Grandmaster Yoda
3. Revan Reborn
4. Jacen Solo
5. Mace Windu (🙂 🙂 🙂)
6. Anakin Skywalker
7. The Hero of Tython
8. Barsen'thor
9. Kyp Durron (🙂 🙂 🙂)
10. Cade Skywalker

Triple smilies are ones that have generally controversial placements.

I think it's pretty fair that you have Windu in the Top 5, and Anakin Skywalker right behind him.

I was going to comment on how retarded some of AP listing were, but the fact Kyp is ranked so high I can't work up the cynicism to say anything about it.

mmm

Yeah Meetra, Shaak, Barsenthor above Mace, Jacen Solo, Jaina, and Kenobi are pretty brain damaged rankings

Originally posted by Deronn_solo
I was going to comment on how retarded some of AP listing were, but the fact Kyp is ranked so high I can't work up the cynicism to say anything about it.

mmm

This is your chance to do some Vader pushing tho. 🙂

Originally posted by carthage
Yeah Meetra, Shaak, Barsenthor above Mace, Jacen Solo, Jaina, and Kenobi are pretty brain damaged rankings

👆

Originally posted by Nephthys
Lightsiders can do Force Storms. In fact, the Jedi Order knew how to do that shit at least a thousand years before Sidious. It's mentioned that they'd recently banned its use in The Jedi Path, which has written shortly after Bane's era.

Nah. My quote wasn't meant to be taken as he can't do Force Storms. It was a snide remark at the likes of Ant and Skillz who say Sidious > Luke because the latter hasn't reached the amount of destruction Sidious has had with his Force power. My counter argument have always been Luke would never do anything on a large scale like that, because he is a Lightsider and world-scale destruction isn't exactly within his morals.

That, and Luke has said in Jedi Search that he wanted to set up the Jedi Praxeum on a secluded planet - because he feared his trainess could unleash one and wreak havoc on a populated area:

"I've spoken with Streen and Gantoris, and it's clear to me that Coruscant is not appropriate. Streen doesn't like to be around people, and he's not going to be very comfortable anywhere in Imperial City. All of Coruscant is covered with metropolis, buildings on top of buildings.

"And--” He hesitated, but this was a private conversation with Leia; he could not hide any of his worries from her. "There is some danger about what we might do. Who am I to be teaching all these Jedi potentials? I have no way of knowing what might trigger a disaster like one of the Emperor's Force storms.

--Excerpt from Jedi Search

Tempest 2/10 Sheev defense 🙂 🙂

Barsen'thor above Kenobi is right and sensible, actually.

~le ancientpower&co.:

valk not a sith so sheevite supremacy is totes wronk
top 10 sith: valk
samethread

How few of the SWTORians actually believe their own arguments these days? 😂

Newguy did with one post what Tempest couldn't with 50. 👆

😂

Originally posted by Q99
On Tython, anyone too strong in one side could set off a storm.

And of course, Nomi channeling the power of the order accidental set off a global firestorm on Yavin 4.

That was more a side effect of the Wall of Light's destructive properties thana nything else. Obviously the light side energies of the entire Order would be tremendous.