Flash vs Thanos [CIS off]

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Originally posted by krisblaze
^If you don't know what CIS off means, read up on the rules.
👆 Riv just goes around complaining about posters debating for Thanos in Thanos threads like it's something not to be done lol

Originally posted by krisblaze
^If you don't know what CIS off means, read up on the rules.

I'll elaborate:

They get basic knowledge of the opposition.

CIS off means they're doing anything to win, even if it's out of character.

Obviously Thanos knows that he's fighting against a speedster, and obviously he'll use tactics that go well against speedsters...

CIS still means in character, I thought.

When is the last time Flash beat a character of Thanos' ilk by himself? Has he ever?

Originally posted by krisblaze
^If you don't know what CIS off means, read up on the rules.

I'll elaborate:

They get basic knowledge of the opposition.

CIS off means they're doing anything to win, even if it's out of character.

Obviously Thanos knows that he's fighting against a speedster, and obviously he'll use tactics that go well against speedsters...

Originally posted by janus77
no prep.
Dancing Banana

^If you dont know what no prep means, read the OP.

They dont get basic knowledge of the opposition. And even if you argue that they do, and the no prep simply means they're blinking into a featureless environment with no warning, this is still Flash's fight.

I'll elaborate:

CIS off means they're doing anything to win, even if it's out of character.

That means Flash isnt going to spend precious time, which is his stock in trade, standing still.
Allowing for basic knowledge (which i believe no prep trumps, but someone else can weigh in on that) and simply no warning on going from one environment to another, Flash is going to deal with the situation much faster than Thanos.

Even the weakest modern day version of the Flash (wally West/speed of sound) unconsciously shifted to speed mode at a change in his environment. He was at a movie where a man walked in and sprayed the crowd with a machine gun. To Wally time stood still. In the time it took for a frame of film to move on the screen and Wally to figure out what he'd done, and what had BEEN done, he was able to get up and find all the bullets, then disarm the shooter.

Relate that to a lightspeed capable Flash, WITH prior knowledge and no PIS/CIS. Thats an even quicker loss for Thanos than no knowledge, albiet by such a small measurement of time as to not matter here.

Unless you want to argue that Thanos is a better speedster than Flash, and will be able to process and react to a no warning change in environment, devise and execute a plan of attack, before Flash could.

Thats taking an already iffy "should have light speed reaction time" supposition to the seen in every Thanos thread "lets pull something out of our hats to not concede a loss" zone, to a more ridiculous level than usual.

Originally posted by tkitna
When is the last time Flash beat a character of Thanos' ilk by himself? Has he ever?

Does the Anti-Monitor count?

True, he wasn't alone (as you can see from all the other characters) but he did the most damage:

That's going into overkill territory.

I mean surely nobody would argue against that portrayal of Wally shitstomping Thanos?

Nice feat, but I don't know the context of the story. Anti Monitor is already on his ass (don't know if that means anything though) and Flash just busts holes in him like a bullet from a gun? Why did that fight take more than a panel if Flash could do that?

Originally posted by tkitna
Nice feat, but I don't know the context of the story. Anti Monitor is already on his ass (don't know if that means anything though) and Flash just busts holes in him like a bullet from a gun? Why did that fight take more than a panel if Flash could do that?

Context: it was just like in COIE (with Barry), so Dr Light had weakened him using antimatter. I will try not to mislead.

However, AM WAS more powerful than his COIE version (as noted by Wally), FWIW.

Originally posted by Galan007
Eh, yes Flash may have busted up AM's shell, but before that happened a few key plot points transpired, and should be noted.

1.) AM had been noticeably depowered via Dr. Light absorbing energy from a nearby anti-matter star, and using said energies to weaken AM:

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2.) The cumulative efforts of the other heroes present then blew a hole in AM, and downed him:

Granted, Flash lended them his speed, so they could catch a second wind - but it was still their own powers which further weakened and already depowered AM.

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3.) Only then, (when AM was obviously quite weak,) did Flash destroy his shell:

But as you can see, the very next panel after having his shell busted, AM was already back up in his energy form. He then vaporized the heroes present, with a single blast. In short, Flash's attack did nothing at all in the long run.

The only reason I brought up these points is to prevent some random fanboy from saying "FLASH WTF PWNZERZ AM!!11!"

I need to refresh myself on Anti Monitor when I have the gumption to go through boxes of comics to find Crisis. Its been years since I've read it. Cool feat though.

Riv needs to read up on the KMC rules.

Apparently the combatants don't get basic knowledge anymore dur

Originally posted by riv6672
All the pro Thanos posts boil down to this.

AND the belief he'd be facing a Flash behaving in a PIS/CIS capacity.

The OP says different.

A full potential Flash is, simply, too much for Thanos.

What is the smallest increment of time? Planck time? As soon as this battle has progressed that far, Flash can and will be able to curb stomp Thanos a million times.
If he's lazy.

Anyone who claims otherwise is delusional.

You are quite the fool. How dad you ever presume to know the thought process of myself or presume to have it all figured out. I base my opinion off evidence and portrayals.

Thanos has feats that easily prove he can react to the Flash as well as erect shields and counter the speed he brings to the table.

Now dare cross me again and fell my full wrath, vagabond.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Does the Anti-Monitor count?

True, he wasn't alone (as you can see from all the other characters) but he did the most damage:

Oh wow, Thanos is done after this. Maybe CISless scenarios against characters with speed are pointless and should be avoided.

Originally posted by krisblaze
Riv needs to read up on the KMC rules.

Apparently the combatants don't get basic knowledge anymore dur


So the fact that i showed Flash can beat Thanos WITH basic knowledge slipped right past you...dur

Its okay.
I already know Thanos fanboys'll never concede an obvious loss.
I come into these threads to see if he can actually win, which is fine, and if not, then point out why.
After that its just me amusing myself at the fanboys' expense, seeing how many half wit arguments, denials, personal attacks and selective feat acknowledgements they'll use to justify absurd conclusions.

And you sir, have provided no end of guffaws. 🙂

Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
Oh wow, Thanos is done after this. Maybe CISless scenarios against characters with speed are pointless and should be avoided.

Nice reality check you've donated to the MB...👆

Originally posted by riv6672
Nice reality check you've donated to the MB...👆
My conclusion is based off of Thanos feats which are more than adequate for the task at hand.

LoL at this point we could have scans of Flash owning Thanos with every move in his arsenal in a canon comic that explicitly says Thanos has no way to react and/or defend himself and people would still be in denial.

DarkSaint owned the thread.

Flash knocks himself out

Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
Oh wow, Thanos is done after this. Maybe CISless scenarios against characters with speed are pointless and should be avoided.
Yeah they should be avoided at all costs.

It's not a fight if your opponent can do a thousand things before you can even process a thought. It just isn't.

Thanos blasts his knee with a shotgun.uhuh